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Aug 6th 2012, 21:02:22

Do you think this is a good thing or bad thing for Apple? I was just thinking today that Apple has always been a very tight lipped about their stuff. In a lawsuit Apple may have to reveal things they didn't want to reveal.

Going to be interesting how this all plays out.

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Aug 6th 2012, 21:24:06

bad thing.
If apple wins, basically they will have the sole right to make phones which are retangular with rounded corners, which will mean the death of any smartphone other than the iPhone. Much as any company may wish the sole market share, if Apple has no competition, then there is no drive to make a better product, adn that is bad.
At the end of the day, there is NO way for the samsung or any other smartphone on the market for that matter to be confused with the iPhone. That means that Apple are in the wrong outright, as one of the fundamental principles of defending a design patent case, is that the opposing product has to cause confusion in terms of whpse product it is. If it was an actual clone of the iPhone, and looked identical whilst runing android, then yes it would be a breach of design patent.
Further, the judge in the case seems to be trying to set apple up for the win, in refusing to allow samsung to present ALL of the evidence demonstrating that they had designs for the current style of phone before the iPhone was released, which to me is a fundamental proof that samsung weren't copying anything.
The judge has aslo taken it upon herself to define terms about what means what, and whilst directing the jury that it should not be taken as meant to be biased to one side or the other, given that probably NONE of the jururs are going to have an actual clue about patent law, they are likely to follow the judges definition exactly, which could produce a biased result.
Apple already lost this exact same case in the UK, where a judge pointed out that the samesung products were distinctively different from the apple products, even going so far as to say that samsung's products "weren't coole enough" to be confused with apple's offerings.
It all comes back to apple simply trying to drive android out of the marketplace, no more, no less.
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Aug 6th 2012, 22:12:15

Money hungry companies. That is all.
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Aug 7th 2012, 4:51:28

the more I read, the more I laugh at apple. IANAL, but http://www.groklaw.net/...hp?story=2012080117581118 is still a fun read
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Aug 7th 2012, 8:14:59

it really is. It does put the judge in a fluff position though. Samsung have very cleverly played the judge's own rulings against her, and apple is now going "that's not fair! you can't do that! We're the only ones allowed to release to the media!"
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Aug 7th 2012, 13:46:00

Personally Apple needs to stop getting so butthurt over everything and just play fair (lol like that'll ever happen).

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Aug 7th 2012, 13:51:15

Originally posted by iNouda:
Personally Apple needs to stop getting so butthurt over everything and just play fair (lol like that'll ever happen).

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Aug 7th 2012, 21:31:42

MS 8 Phone for the win!!!

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Aug 7th 2012, 22:37:45

Apple definitely deserves to be shafted over this in the long run; I hope this blows up in their faces in as large a way as possible.
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Aug 7th 2012, 22:39:51

Originally posted by qzjul:
Apple definitely deserves to be shafted over this in the long run; I hope this blows up in their faces in as large a way as possible.


They won't get shafted over it. They'll just charge even more for their overpriced merchandise to give us the shaft. And enough people buy Apple merchandise rather than the their competitors stuff which shows that they have a loyal consumer base which is willing to be shafted, rather than buying a better cheaper product from a competitor.

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Aug 7th 2012, 23:06:12

Originally posted by Rockman:
Originally posted by qzjul:
Apple definitely deserves to be shafted over this in the long run; I hope this blows up in their faces in as large a way as possible.


They won't get shafted over it. They'll just charge even more for their overpriced merchandise to give us the shaft. And enough people buy Apple merchandise rather than the their competitors stuff which shows that they have a loyal consumer base which is willing to be shafted, rather than buying a better cheaper product from a competitor.


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Aug 7th 2012, 23:45:01

I think Rockman's comment is the one which frustrates me the most over die-hard iPhone users. The inability of them to TRY another product which is just as good, if not better, makes me enraged truly. My HTC Raider with Android 4.0.3 outshines the iPhone in just about every regard. A solid camera, great music player, (Which does not require the idiotic use of iTunes), great web browser and flash support round out the features I love about it. Oh, and an apps store that has just about everything I could ever dream of using.

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Aug 8th 2012, 3:42:05

and on ICS update you have folders and you still can tell your phone to call/text someone android had that funuction way before siri
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Aug 8th 2012, 5:40:50

Yea I definitely don't buy apples products...
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Aug 8th 2012, 7:54:04

Originally posted by Drow:
bad thing.
If apple wins, basically they will have the sole right to make phones which are retangular with rounded corners, which will mean the death of any smartphone other than the iPhone. Much as any company may wish the sole market share, if Apple has no competition, then there is no drive to make a better product, adn that is bad.
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We can have circle phones with sharp square edges.

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Aug 8th 2012, 9:47:13

I would love a circular phone with sharp square edges... Given my propensity for accidentally throwing my phone as I take it out of my pocket, it might not go so well for those around me though...

Also, I hope samsung wins. Apple's anti-competitive behaviour makes me rather annoyed.
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Aug 10th 2012, 21:37:14

Why buy Apple? You're only paying a premium for that cute little logo. They really aren't any better than any other product.
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Aug 11th 2012, 0:53:15

Would this have happened with Steve Jobs at the helm?

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Aug 11th 2012, 2:33:32

to quote mr jobs "I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion [£25bn] in the bank, to right this wrong."
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Aug 11th 2012, 3:52:35

Well Apple revealed over 40 designs of iPhones and iPads in court... Very interesting designs indeed.

http://www.theverge.com/...ew-samsung-trial-pictures

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Aug 15th 2012, 11:46:26

nobody cares about apple now...after that one dude dies this is what they have to resort to to make money