Would've, Should've, Cuda

We came as an open book, we didn't hide our agenda, we didn't conceal our goals. Now we will prove that we mean what we say.

Sol, we came without any ill will towards you and we would have gladly spoken with you about pacting, but you chose not to engage. Instead, you decided to give refuge to an an enemy, knowing that we had sworn a blood oath against him and any that allied with him.

You decided to take an offensive stance, You decided no to diplomatically engage. Weezy, YOU DECIDED THIS. That is where you're decisions end.

Effectively, at this moment, we have convened Military Operations to disable and destroy those that have allied with our enemy. We will not negotiate, we will show no quarter, we shall not relent. I find it fitting, that Sol, that once shining star, now about to be devoured by the Black Hole it Harbors.

And Mercs, do not think that your treachery goes unnoticed. We pacted with you in good faith only to have a majority of your members untag and join up with Black Sol. Obviously to provide you with deniability they have held off until 72 hr accountability window has closed. We are not oath breakers, and we will honor our word through the end of set. Do not expect this to be forgotten.

May the games begin, This is the way

Sir Jouster, HFA M4D

Confirmed. We were born in the morning, but it wasn't this morning.

You could at least try subtlety once in a while.

Have fun yall!

it doesnt matter for Mercs


M4D was the aggressor that attacked first.

Still a bad optic.

I would certainly be pissed if an alliance I pacted with in good faith, tag jumped a bunch of members over to a tag who was fairly obviously shaping up to attack me.

M4D have launched the FS indeed, however, blind freddy and his dog could also see that SoL was shaping up to strike regardless.

Good luck to all parties.

what evidence do you have that we were shaping up to attack m4d? They were spying the fluff out of us yesterday

Literally in response to the same 🤣

You guys are like Josey Wales and Cathankins.

Gets spied on...

Then as a response you FS a warring clan for revenge.

LOL!!!!!


Letos obsession with me has lead to 1 of his own alliances countries dying during the first hour of M4D first striking SoL.


Nice fvcking job, losers. I feel bad for anyone in M4D right now, being guided by an idiot who can't admit he harbors cheaters and doxxers (that have never asked for forgiveness or changed their ways).



He is leading you all to death just because he can't get off my fluff. Hilarious.

How the hell do you guys lose a country while getting the upper hand blindsiding and FSing a clan anyways?

Also - I posted your war declaration before you guys even posted it. So I literally beat you at that too. You can't do anything right, except die.

as a neutral:

1. SoL and M4D weren't pacted.
2. 8 players in the last 80 odd hours jump tag from other tags to SoL, 7 of those being Mercs players.
3. SoL goes into turn saving mode. (it's hard to hide stopping all LG's etc)
4. This is admittedly more circumstantial, but taking in someone who's known to be froth at the mouth anti M4D in BlackHole, despite WeeZy's anti cheating stance, and BlackHole's self admitted cheating history, right up to getting deleted in alliance last set, doesn't inspire confidence either.

Again, no hostility here, just open and honest optics from a 3rd party.

Sorry, but when was SOL *ever* a shining star?

1998

Drow -

Here's the thing.

Weezy actually is anti-cheating. I've assured him, and the rest of the community, that when I outed the other cheaters as well as myself, that those days were behind me.


Leto defended those other cheaters. And none of them have taken responsibility for their actions yet. I haven't given Leto the opportunity privately to discuss this with me multiple times, and he's attacked me personally, telling me he is going to pray for me, attacked my wife, and then told me that I was in the wrong for being doxxed because I upset people by exposing them as cheaters.


Everyone else here, including yourself, have given me a second chance. Aside from having multiple discord profiles in M4D, PDM, Lights, and other discord channels, I have no multis in the game. I think everyone knows that, and everyone is cool with me now.


Leto is upset with me because I keep showing the community his true colors.

He attacked me in alliance unprovoked. Then his clan attack Stones players unrprovoked. Then his clan attacked SoL unprovoked.



Oh... they've also been planning this attack for awhile. Long before SoL took me in, just for the record. I've got the proof.

i am a mercenary for hire (merc) and i was offered lawyers, guns, ammo, drugs and women by weezy so i came over.

I am a rep casher who got leveled by your AB FS. Clearly I was not war ready lol

Stones was a mistake, which receipts were provided for.

And yes, I've given you the opportunity to play clean and demonstrate you can.
I really hope it continues, because I do think you can be an asset to the game and community.

Be thankful it wasn't speedkill(TM)

Drow - you see how I am playing clean?

I think we are cool with each other, and have an understanding.



See how Leto isnt? You see how he has never once taken responsibility for the cheating that happened under his watch? You see how the cofounder of M4D has never apologized to the community? You see how they doxxed members of this community? And then after that, they brought in Turtle Crawler, one of the most infamous cheaters of all time.


There is a very clear good guys/bad guys here.


And it's hilarious that the bad guys are trying to use my existence, a reformed person who is being given a second chance by this community, as justification for their actions. Especially when all the skeletons in their closet are MUCH worse than mine, and they keep shoving them back in the closet.

Also, for the record, the title of this post should have been either:

Woulda, Shoulda, Cuda

OR

Would've, Should've, Cuda've

LOL - they even F'd that up Tan.

We did the 72 hour thing out of faith for your pact. I also told leto the truth and never held anything back. You know some of us like to war in this game and you gotta at least have some options.

We could of not said anything and tag over at the last secound, but thats not very fun is it.

And boom goes the dynamite, from the horse's mouth, obvious plan is obvious. Of course we had no choice. SOL has been on the ass hole side of running how many tags out of the game now?

My name is Karen and I need to speak to your Manager.

Bad decision to FS like that. I remember when the bad guys were able to be bad guys because they were so good at it.

Shame on you for not letting your members know you were going to have a war this set or at least a high probability(that's only if you actually attempt to have foreign affairs)

Paradigm will be policing for M4D.
Also for SoL.

Let them have at it folks

Hi so just to clarify, there was 1 multi I'm aware of and it was confirmed and acknowledged that it was in Team and not in PDM and not in Alliance, the link to the post is here: https://earthempires.com/.../with-a-heavy-heart-52516

and this is the context:



so, what happened was acknowledged for team server, and it never happened in alliance.

please let me know if there's any other allegations that need to be addressed, because at this point it is just digging up nonsense dirt that is not longer applicable.



TAN's (TANS') (TANSES') view is accurate portrayal of apotheosis, sorry apostrophe



^^ this guy may or may not know where he is when we wakes up on any given day

but at least you're getting up! better than the alternative! cheers!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 hilarious

Please don’t start insulting us. We are enjoying mojitos on some beach in Baja…. Relaxing.

I will say this though:

Someone is engaging in Harmful Spy Ops on us.

And when he slips up we’re going to drop our drinks and kill the mthrfckr.

Clearly.

i was emulating you with the Republic country. You are my spirit animal lol

Well you are a group of known liars and use tactics like this on a regular basis. I think it’s safe to say if merc is talking, they are lying. This is a universal constant.

The war was over the threats and SF aggression. No idea why you guys keep lying about literally everything. Keep your morons on a leash and maybe people will quit attacking you.

Sorry superfly you logged into the wrong account

Mercs didn't get hit. SoL got hit.
Do keep up...

They are all one big clan

Oh hey it’s my slow friend.


Here ya go bud

https://eestats.lafamiglia-ee.eu/alliance/country/265



That’s Superfly ^^^ as usual he is stirring up trouble with his usual conniving and sneaky snake stuff.

I predict he will lie and play dumb about the entire thing. He’s very dishonest even when it’s obvious he is lying.



Hope you are able to keep up now. If you need any more help just let me know. Not with your country, I doubt there’s any helping you with that. I mean if you need any more help explaining basic things to you.

Hopefully some day you can get over superfly of him trolling you.

You guys have a lot of feminine energy on here with this whole aversion to conflict thing. I will never like SF because I think he is a jerk regardless of what happens. That goes for a lot of you.

I have a question -


If Leto is the leader of M4D, why is he always absent from defending his clan and his people?

Just like when his people were caught cheating, he refuses to acknowledge anything. He refuses to apologize. He refuses to face the music.



Now his clan first strikes another clan (and losses a country in the process, LOL) and he's sending others here to face the music.



Leto - you're an absolutely cowardly leader. You think I don't know what's happening? You're scared of the spotlight, and worse, you're scared to face me in the spotlight. I get sent screenshots from your discord and your private chat all the time. I see the back room dealings you've been attempting. I was aware last set in teams when you were hunting for me, and that's why you hit Req. I knew this set before you were going to attack me unprovoked in alliance. And I was aware that you were planning on attacking SoL before tonight.


I know EVERYTHING you're planning to do. So you mine as well stop sneaking around behind close doors, being duplicitous.


Come out and face the music choir boy. Why don't you explain to the rest of M4D and this community why your hatred for me is going to cause the downfall of all of M4D. 15 other players are going to suffer for your actions.


I've told quite a few of them that they really should splinter off from you. You caused chaos and grief for PDM when you were there, you caused Lights to essentially splinter in half in teams, and now you're causing M4D to get wrecked.


You're worse than turtle crawler. At least he attempts to face me in public, sometimes. You employ the milkman strategy. Just run and hide.


....


OMG.



Are... YOU MILKMAN? Is that why you defended his multing and doxxing so hard? Is that why you insulted my wife and told me you'd pray for me when I brought it to your attention?!?! Is that why you hate me so much?!?!




OMFG. It all makes sense. Is Milkman actually one of your multis?!?!?!?!?!

I can field this one at a time.

1. Because none of his people were cheating. One guy on the teams server did.

2. M4D will not bow to mere words. Lights is still 10 strong. MKR didn't LEAVE lights. I just wanted mkr back. Nothing to do with teams or blackhole, Leto, or M4D or paradigm.

3. Milkman paid for his crimes.

4. Leto tries to talk to you, but your too deafened by your own voice to hear it.

Which means you should finally go back to your moms basement.

No because hitting you guys is a waste of my time and turns

I'd like to be milked.

Btw. If you did have an alter ego inside M4D, you'd see plain as day we aren't cheating. So another lie just to fuel your vendetta with Leto.

Shame.

What the fluff did you just fluffing say about me, you little fluff? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fluff out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fluffing words. You think you can get away with saying that fluff to me over the Internet? Think again, fluffer. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fluffing dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little fluff. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fluffing tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will fluff fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fluffing dead, kiddo.

So let me respond, then.

1. None of his people were cheating.... except the ones that were cheating. Got it. Did Leto ever publicly acknowledge any of his people cheated? Did he ever apologize? Did he ever let anyone know how it would be dealt with? No, he hid in his cave, like a coward.

2. I don't understand. So MKR is a division of Lights?

3. Milkman paid for his crimes? How? Did he ever apologize to the community? Did he ever answer questions? Did he ever admit wrong doing?

I came on here and told everyone what I did, when nobody knew. I then answered questions. Apologized. Sought forgiveness, then answered more questions.

Did Milkman do ANY of that? The only thing I saw was some BS joke post that was quoted up here earlier, about ONE of his multis. When we all know he had many many multis.


4. Leto does a poor job of trying to talk to me. A month ago when we spoke he said 'we can try again next round'. He closed the talks. Mind you, this is after HE opened the aggression this set by unprovoked killing me with his 15 man alliance. Which was after he hunted me and killed me in teams, unprovoked.


He's trying REALLY hard, isn't he?


And now he unprovoked attacked SoL. Let me guess, he tried to talk to them too, before being the aggressor?



Has he considered... Oh I don't know, not attacking people he doesn't want to fight? That might be a strategy he employs.




Here's another question though.



WHERE IS THE COWARD?!?!? Why does he send everyone else to the forums to talk for him. It is absolutely, positively, pathetic. Leto the Coward.


All his other flaws aside, him being a coward is probably the worst piece of his personality.

Empy - You all didn't know (apparently) that you had cheaters in Light. I wasn't even in your alliance and I knew. It seems that maybe I'm privy to more information about your own alliances than you are.

"They're all one big clan"

They're not, but they are a loose coalition.

Coalie is not superfly, and no one was referencing superfly.
Until you did.
Once again, do keep up.

But I forget, you desperately crave the attention.

Round and round

Who attacked who, Empy?