yeh got your attention eh :P

i propose this that for say up to 72 hours you can grab dead countries.
if the game was to mirror real life.
if there was 6k acres and 0 pop who stops me taking your land?

i suggust you keep DRs but you change the way it works for dead countries.
The miltary not killed can defend to a certain degree. i mean if you have turrets why shouldnt they still fire? troops would defend theirselfs. Tanks may have auto aim (this is 15 yrs in future)

this will encourage grabbing i hope and eventually generate more land for each server.

thoughts?

If the country is dead, it's going to be in max DR for 24 hours so grabbing it is pointless, especially if it still fights back. After the DR wears off, grabbing it might be beneficial. You would have to watch for dead countries then try to snipe them exactly 24 hours after they die lol

I think a more interesting option would be to implement this in alliance and allow only the tag that killed it to farm it.

i bet many would sit at ingame warroom and attack ready to go and waiting when dr is gone and all those players would send their forces on same second and those who have best connections would win.

Well remove drs on countries when died. And make slightly reduced gains. But is it a good idea?

dead countries no dr, every1 can hit, 24hrs time to get as much land from deads as possible, gains 1/4th/5th of normal gains.

i like this idea...

Idea is good, but think about how many people would camp out kill runs, to try to cherry pick the kill to get the land for their clan.

well if it was in play and say laf camped sof kill runs the next kill run would be on laf

not to mention that im sure that if our kill target was LCN, would have their police retal laf for the hit on them

just an example

this would promote the killing of untagged countries and micro/small tags big time.

Good for larger clans bad for any clan under 30 members.

just my two cents...

make it so you cannot get land off a country unless:
it was tagged in the last 72 hours
it performed attacks other then SS/PS against countries that did not attack it first.

protect small clans in the same way and I may grudgingly say this could work.

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We would be better off having game generated rebel countries that can be randomly captured for 72 hours

i.e multiple clans hit a country when the # of attacks = a randomly generated number the country is captured. Whatever clan the player who got it plays for then get to have their own personal low def self-exploring land-farm for 72 hours ;)

put 10-12 of these into the game and it would take a lot of pressure off the land and untagged issues.

Isn't DR for LGs completely separate from special attacks still? Unless there've been some major changes, GSes and BRs do not impact SS or PS diminishing returns.

Therefore, dead countries would not be in DR.

(Personally, I think it would be interesting if all the dead country's land went to whoever got the final hit... make killing part of a viable netting strategy. Though that would be abused... maybe split the land by percentage based on the last 200 hits or something?)

-Fooglmog
Guy with no clue.

I like Foog's line of thinking a little better than the original idea. It would need some tweaking to keep it from being abused, but it does only seem fair that to the victor go the spoils :-)

every kill should give 250 acres.

I was thinking basically the same thing upon reading the first post. Maybe split up proportionally by hits by all countries over the past 24 hours.

This would fundamentally alter gameplay. It would be interesting to implement for a round to see how it played out.

Special attacks add to the defender's DR. Otherwise, it would be possible to lemming down a country's turrets with BRs and landgrab it. If you'd like proof, just look at the returns of SSes done during kill runs.

There were no intentional changes made to DR by us.

Yeah, that's a neater way of doing it if you split proportionally over the last 24 hours... probably only between successful attacks, mind you, but I really do like the idea.

Can we try this?

Agreed, successful only.



Double agreed.

triple :P

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i like this idea, but we must consider that if this were to be in place, how many clans would go on mass killings of untags/small tags for some easy grabbins?

it is a very good idea for generating land, but we must also consider the drawback of such a feature.

Well I don't think untags would really be worth it... plus humanitarian interference. But realistically taking all land seems to be too strong... if this were to be the case there would have to be some land destruction component due to all the attacks that made some of it unusable or something... I am not in anyway an advocate of land destruction as thing stand, but I think it would be much more viable if killing resulted in land gain. Maybe high DPA could mitigate land destruction.

From an FFA, Warring perspective, I think if players have used turns already to hit for the kill, they shouldn't then need to land grab. If my troops are running all through your country looking for your last 5 civs, I own your land :)


What I'm getting at, is the attacking countries should gain a few acres off the target each hit, which could accumulate into a land kitty for the attacking country, that gets awarded if the country is killed within the next 2 hours (or something like that).

If you're in a war, you don't really want to be LGing a target the next day, or straight after, when you should be killing/gaining readiness