an investment section of the game... invest this much get this return or lose so much if the investment fails and base it on war and peace n such

...kinda like what we already do on the public market?

tee hee

no not like what we do on the private market
much better, much more creatively

i know this idea has been discussed and discarded countless times but suppose we tweak it a little bit


here is one way it might work on the express server:
you click on an invest button on the left hand control bar

a screen comes up and gives you three options:
1) over the next four hours the NW of the server will increase x%
2) over the next four hours the price of tech will fall y%
3)over the next four hours the price of food will remain the same

the historical data provide the values for x and y
if the index does not change the investor receives a 5% return
if the index behaves as the investor predicted he receives more depending on how right he was
if the index behaves other than how the investor predicted he loses money

the invested cash is not available for use by the investor but can be taken by LG or spy op

if the cash is depleted by hostile action during the four hour time frame, the return is based upon the depleted total


if this rule is adopted, it will benefit strats that have lots of cash on hand
it will pump more cash into the game
it will give returning players a message that something positive happened in their absence

the downside risk of this rule is that it may depress demand for stock early in the set

if tracking the server values is too complex
one could have three options then we could simply have three other options
aggressive
reasonable
municipal bonds

the aggressive has higher yield and risk


thx for your consideration

itll be more like watching the stock market... have like a news ticker... like buy stock in oil... if its a non warring set then obviously thatd be a loss but if its a warring set holy crap thats alot of gain... or buy stock in turrets or tanks... build a stock market from the ground up and have an economy in earth

why stockpile in bushels when you can stockpile in an investment? something that you can either gain from or lose depending on how the rest of the server reacts or have safe (cd type) bonds that guarentee 2% gain or something with a certain commitment to money

thats exacttly how the bushel market works pretty much

Well yea but its almost always gaurenteed to hit like 35 or less by the time to destock the point is to destock and have value

The market can sense the amount of attacks going on in earth or can see the amount of say farms in all the countries which would lessen food stock or a large population which would lessen money stocks.... a good invester must analyze allll aspects of earth to figure out what will be a good and bad iinvestment...

set up a futures market? :P

no set it up like the stock markett :P

crashes every 2nd week.

Anyone can say tech prices will go up and then do a buyout and everyone in the clan makes alot of money.

lol

Erm....guys....the bushel/oil/mil markets ARE stock markets. It's no different than investing in oil in RL - you buy when it's selling low, then hold it until it's selling high. This is identical to the concept of a stock market.

gregg's idea is too much based on a lucky guess as an actual intelligent financial decision, and is really too reliant on the already established market to be worthwhile, imo.



What might be a little bit more interesting though, would be to have a "bank" option added into the game. Instead of having to buy goods/tech/mil to avoid having 2 billion cash on hand, you could choose to invest those funds into an internal bank which gives a per turn interest yield on funds in the account. It would have to be low to make sure it didn't outweigh public market investing - (%.001 or so) - but it might be a nice new dimension to the financial aspect of the game. You could also introduce a tech to increase interest yields.

I think Endrev messed around with the concept for a little while, and it seemed to work pretty well - it added another dimension to netting, and added some healthy volatility to the investment markets.

The facebook game "world war" has a bank kind of like what you are talking about. I think it costs 10% to withdrawal money but it is safe from people stealing it. I dont think you get any interest if I remember correctly.

finallyy someone who understands what im trying to say

investment != banking, CM

HWCNG comments that predicting the future movement of the server's markets is "lucky guessing". There are many excellent palyers who could do it very well and would welcome the opportunity.

It's always a lucky guess. lincoln - even if you use past data to influence it. It NOT being a lucky guess usually results in deletions.

lol well what about investing in sayyy wars? every clan made would have its version of stock andd the more nw/land/size they gain the higher their stock but if it all gets destroyed then hey you lose your stock

it's still an educated guess, at best...

What the market does completely depends on how clans prepare for any given war. They may go rig heavy, they may go indy heavy, or they may run straight up farmers for the disposable and instant income. Smart money may be on playing to those strats, but it's never a guaranteed.

the stock market is only an educated guess... you cant make sure things or people would just get rediculous nws