As things are right now its waaay to easy to grab someone imo

jets * off allies * weap tech * war dec * 10% bonus * PS and its up to 2 billion % of what you originally had to send to break

So i propose that 1 or maybe 2 off allies or even all of them are removed from the solo servers

I'd take you a lot more seriously if you actually crunched the numbers and told me how much of an increase in attack strength is possible with all the available bonuses, then compared it to how much of an increase in defence strength is possible with all the available bonuses.

Making something up like "its up to 2 billion % of what you originally had to send" just makes me want to ignore you.

-Fooglmog
Guy with no clue.

"Offensive allies can no more than double your offensive strength which includes your weapons tech. "

So theres 200% right there

lets say your up to 200k after that

200 * 1.1 = 220k
220 * 1.1 = 242k
242 * 1.5 = 363k

So basically if you start with 100k jets, you can end up with 363k jet off power

As far as I know, havnt explored it that much

100*1.1*1.1*1.5*1.5 = 272.25

x2
=544.5

so yes, but you need to have allies with total 1.089M jets to double a 100k jet PS with max weap @war w/ bonus

ie, your allies modify *after* bonuses have already been applied; bonuses do not get applied to your allies

bleh

100*1.1*1.1*1.5*1.5 = 272.25

original jets * war dec * bonus * weap tech * ps

x2 (off allies)

=544.5363

So you actually gained even more off power then with what I counted with heh

oh, sorry that was with max weapons tech

100*1.1*1.1*1.5 = 181.5

363k for no weaps tech


with dict max we get:
680k with max allies max everything, but that's hard heh

Max dict vs rep w/ nothing is pretty awesome

i don't like any suggestion that promotes less interaction with other players or all-explore over land grabbing. this promotes both...

No it doesnt i just think that its obsured that you can go from 100k off power to 680k off power

There is no posible way to avoid being LGed by morons other then to not have the land at all which is kind of stupid

Yeh cause if you got 2m jets with all the above u could have 14m raw which should break anyone. Those it sound right that 2m jets should be that much.

tbh, without doing the math, your off allies would have to have quite a few more jets than u to accomplish that. i would like to see someone accomplish that, actually. tho, i don't think it'd break *anyone* with the amount of jets your allies would need to have to accomplish this, there's likely at least a few countries out there than can pull off 15m defense

And, yes. if you manage to get good enough allies(while sticking to the spirit of the rules) i think that u deserve that extra power.

Maybe limit off allies on solo servers... but removing them so you, on your own, have to break possibly more than double the defender's defense units is equally as ludicrous.

and ivan.. Going from 100k off *power* to 680k wouldnt happen. maybe 100k off *units*

Question: In a PS do you add your offensive allies contribution then x1.5 or is that excluded? I always thought it was included first than x1.5. That how I have been calculating and have not failed an attack with that on someone without defensive allies.

you add your total including the 1.5 ps bonus then add your allies units.

Even with out off allies with weapons tech,PS and the other bonuses you can still go from

100k to 272k off power

yes, but defense could be oer 300k with allies.

Like i said, i'd be ok with limiting of allies(maybe only 2 instead of 3), but noqt get rid of them.

PS makes up for the def ally bonus tho so even if off allies are limited or removed completely that just makes it even