Is there really a point to keeping them? Will extra traffic hurt the servers/service in any way?

+1

Perhaps trying to give the all-x a little bit of advantage over the more-aggresive grabbers?

Still fair enough to me.

it's a pretty small advantage for all-ex strats and they were given pretty big buffs in the new bonus changes

it's just annoying not being able to run turns at any time w/o facing a big penalty

isn't everyone given "big buffs" by the new bonus changes? lol

FFA already has the 12/18 hour bonus removed :)

Suggested this a month and 7 days ago :P



Getting Rid of it will hurt some strats, so giving 6 extra points daily (would mean extra 3 turns for those that mass explore) should even it out.

What's wrong with hurting some strategies? Aren't networths way too high already? Why do we always have to compensate and make it easier and easier for people to get high networths, so those gullible idiots can be fooled into thinking they're getting better?

+1 to this suggestion.

-1 to this suggestion.

Here is why...

This was originally conceived of as a way to address server load issues under Mehul's setup. But now it is a part of the game mechanic. Essentially, you are incenting people to stay logged out, which increases the opportunity to catch them by surprise and kill their country.

Without the bonus we might have a higher instance of botting / scripting for people staying logged into their country. But even without that concern, it is just a good idea to force someone to choose between losing a bonus advantage and logging in to take an action.

IMHO, the 4-5 hour delay for goods to hit the market is a worse issue... making a separate post about that.

i posted the same suggestion in march. totally agree.

+1

+9

Atryn - the 12 and 18 hour bonuses don't make it any easier to catch someone by surprise to kill their country.

Killing a country properly takes under a minute, as does playing a country. If you do a kill slowly, or play a country slowly, it takes more like two or three minutes. Even if someone plays their country 4 or 5 times a day, the chances of catching them when they are actually logged into their country are extremely low.

Each person has a different amount of time that they are near a computer or away from a computer. They don't change this based on whether or not they can get a 12 or 18 hour bonus. Its based on whatever else is going on in their life, since Earth Empires is NOT the most important thing. Changing the 12 or 18 hour bonus will not change whether or not someone can easily access their country in less than a minute after it is first under attack.

Remove these bonuses

Sounds like well over 90% agree. :)

i never saw a reason given for the change in ffa

might not have been playing then

but i find it so much more convenient being able to play turns whenever without worrying about play cycles

if im delaying turns waiting for tech to drop or whatever i can login every 12 hours if i want

enshula, the change in ffa was made because you can sell/buy goods and tech via the control panel which doesn't count as logging in. The bonus was eliminated because it was considered 'obsolete'.


edit: here is the thread
http://forums.earthempires.com/...changes-and-new-interface

Terrible idea. I like the bonus turns. Also, Atryn's explanation is correct.

if someone wants to run bots/scripts, 6 bonus turns isn't going to stop them

Mods and their Ban hammers will :)

I think they should be removed. I never liked the idea of rewarding people for not playing the game they are being rewarded in. It's counter intuitive.

we would spend more time in game if we had something to do there but we don't after we have spent daily turns.

I personally like them.

I think it helps those players who can't play all the time, or the more casual players to give them some advantage for not hugging their country.

It incorporates an element of strategy on how you play your turns daily, and makes you plan your turn storage to maximise growth or attack runs. Along with market times, foreign aid times and planned strike times, we're juggling a subtle aspect of the game, let alone juggling it with bonuses. There's a lot of tactical play in this during war too.

The free turns are a significant contribution to our net worth too. Playing once a day, is still 360 turns or up to 4 days ahead of schedule on whatever you are trying. We're playing around 4500 turns a round in alliance, so that is a substantial amount adding to our score or contributing to a war.

So I don't really think you should try and lose it. Maybe improve it ;OD

How would you improve it?

I would increase the granularity of it. Instead of 3 turns for 12 hours and 6 turns for 18 hours, make it a pair of gifts: 1 turn per 4 hours since last log-in and 1 turn per 12 hours logged out.

So you get something like this:
3h - 1t
6h - 2t
9h - 3t
12h- 5t
15h- 6t
18h- 7t
21h- 8t
24h- 10t

This gives people incentive not to play constantly, or if they do break to break for a significant amount of time. This would make staying logged in to stonewall a more risky operation, as you might gain an extra turn while sat there, but also it continues to reduce server demand and bandwidth costs.

i would totally not log in for like 80 hours after clearing turns to get 140(120) then use bonus points that i stored for 3 and a half days to mass explore like 154 turns at once.


as all explorer.