Why do you people insist on selling turrets at 115? Jesus, way too early to be anywhere below 125+

Just put your turrets out at $135 - they'll still sell. This happens every set - some idiot crashes a market with some insanely cheap units, and every other idiot follows him right down the fluffter with their prices.

As the founder of the Association of Rep Cashers Doing a Cash Start (ARCDCS), I support these low market prices. Please keep selling res tech at $2k as well.

Too expensive. Sell it at $99 turrets $90 jets, $1800 bus and res please

as a techer I just might play this reset selling tech at $1400-1500 unless other techers learn not to sell below 3000.

just had to buy 800 points of SDI to make the price jump from 2K to $3800... if you really want to play it this way then I will make sure peeps have to buy 80-120k worth of tech-points to buy me out and restore the markets.

Just play a demo techer and resell all the cheap tech.

one p erson sets the price. the next person sells one to three below. we all get screwed. it has happened to me twice already :(

It's all me!

hehe i am a demo techer... problem is trying to find a stable sales point that would last long enough to sell, as mentioned peeps are either recalling or leaving it on the market for 2 hours and recycling at lower prices. Would need all techers to buy out the low priced tech and resell high.

If just 3-4 techers are crashing the market then all that happens is we buy all their tech and sit on a useless stockpiles of tech.

if it was just a rep or commie trying to lower the prices by sacrificing a few 1000 points then buying it out would not be a problem. Techers would just need to remember to clear the market before reselling. That is vs. try to beat out some price put up by a rep/casher and ending up selling 20-30K points of tech for $1500 cheaper then the going rate because someone neglected to clear the 500 points of tech selling at $1800 and watch it jump to $3300 as it should be.

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actually was thinking of selling tech low and use the funds to do a food buy out ... reps and commies would probably prefer to buy 3K per tech point then 80 dollar bushels :D ... I'm sure the farmers wouldn't mind either.

but would need 3-4 strong demo_techers to pull it off:)

it's not me, i never learned to drive a market. let alone get drunk enough in one to crash it.

now i know who is doing it, thanx for the quick denial ;p

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Rule of thumb:
Day1 Turns 0001-0360 --- Minimum Price $5000
Day2 Turns 0361-0760 --- Minimum Price $4000
Day3 Turns 0761-1120 --- Minimum Price $3000
Day4 Turns 1121-1480 --- Minimum Price $2800
Day5 Turns 1481-1840 --- Sell at whatever price

meh I suppose I can play 4-5 resets as a techer selling at 2k the first day and drop it by $200 a day until no one wants to play techer anymore. ... just to setup the one reset where I can sell tech at 5k for the whole reset.

maybe there just aren't enough people for a techer to profit yet. everybody has to do tech startups just to get some because the market is usually bone dry.

prima, i can see why you're upset! you barely have any land and people keep ousting you in price :P

kidding!

the war techs are dry but not the key production techs, or at least I have not seen those go dry yet.

lol you like my little sub 4K demo techer :p

... I just haven't doubled my land yet ;) was hoping for the early reset prices to be a little higher

... these look more like end of reset prices to me...

do you still need an ally? have one spot left will be teching for the rest of the reset - except for the next 200 turns.

meh, i dunno, think i sold my tech at 3k because the asking price was 2k. thought it was going to get stuck on the market.

Are those guidelines still correct considering the recent adjustment to the tech production coefficient.

same goes for you idiots who keep the food prices going down by undercutting 1$ whats on market. I'll just start selling at 36$ and win the ahole game if I keep seeing that.

i may have the old TPT formula
ROUND(.26*LABS*(.5+.5*(LABS/LAND))+3,0)
looks like the new formula is at:
ROUND(0.34*Labs*(0.5+0.5*(Labs/land))+3,0)

if it is at .34 then comparing tech price to bushel price per turn taken I'm getting:

$500 tech -- $11 Bushel
1000 -- 23
1500 -- 34
2000 -- 45
2500 -- 57
3000 -- 68
3500 -- 79
4000 -- 90
4500 -- 102
5000 -- 113
5500 -- 124

so you need to sell tech @2000 just to keep up with a fascist farmer, and that is assuming you sold all your tech.

So realistically selling twice a day we can sell 55% of the tech

putting the numbers at:
500 -- 7
1000 -- 13
1500 -- 20
2000 -- 27
2500 -- 34
3000 -- 40
3500 -- 47
4000 -- 54
4500 -- 60
5000 -- 67
5500 -- 74

just using some quick and dirty math ... there are a lot of other variables not being brought in so this is just a straight production comparison.

Food production was calculated using :
round((farms*5.3 + empty_acres*0.4)*govt_food_bonus*agri_tech)
gov bonus = 1.15 and agri_tech = 2.2 empty_acres = 0
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with land = 10260 and producing acres = 10000
TPT = 3360 and FPT = 137576

if anyone wants to double check it ... I have been known to make errors ;)

You're assuming the farmers have nearly full agro tech, right? Which i doubt any of them do.

You also aren't teching every turn so that goes the other way. The bonus turns are pretty insignificant in the express, so I sell 3 or 4 times a day.

yes on the Agri Tech, also a Techer probably still has a few indies for spy production and needs to buy food so it evens out some.

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which would give you a conversion rate of .7 for 3x a day or

500 -- 9
1000 -- 17
1500 -- 26
2000 -- 34
2500 -- 43
3000 -- 51
3500 -- 60
4000 -- 68
4500 -- 77
5000 -- 85
5500 -- 94

and .8 for 4x a day or

500 -- 10
1000 -- 20
1500 -- 29
2000 -- 39
2500 -- 49
3000 -- 59
3500 -- 68
4000 -- 78
4500 -- 88
5000 -- 98
5500 -- 107

BTW Bushels on the PM go for about $38 with 85% mil tech, so selling tech under $2000 might as well go farmer and sell on the PM for about 13-16 mil final net-worth.

you know what would help market prices the most?

a couple hundred players.

Stop saving the market. Sell Bus & Res below 2000 please.

I love the $2000 tech prices. They were good while they lasted. But now i dont need any more tech for the rest of the set.

So thats 1 less customer :P

tech's lowest price is 1k.

food price this morning was $43. I put 5 million bushel up at the market price of $43. 5 minutes later some idiot drops price to $40. i recall my food and put it up at the new market price of $40. Now another idiot comes and drops the price to $39. I'll wait another couple hours. if my food does not sell, I'll recall and drop the price down to $36 and sell it at that price the rest of reset.


knuckleheads!

food price now $38......wheeeeeee $36 bucks rest of reset. Farm strat won't compete this time around. Nice work people!

LOL ya im usually one of the techers undercutting you. this time i expected crap tech prices and went casher- its paying off huge- thanks everyone for being cheap undercutting bastads....

im already buying tech for 1700 each... LMFAO- i cant believe this. Thanks all you techers for your support. I know you all love me.

Guess my gamble with iny/c paid off this set. With low tech and food, its cheap to run all indy