hello!

to control the increasing number of grabs on tag hrock, here is hrock's new policy:

1. each tag is allowed one grab on any country in hrock, which will be retaled 1:1.

2. more than one hit from a tag in 24 hours: each hit above the first one will be retaled 1:1 officially plus one unofficial "topfeed" on another country in your tag. you may retal those hits 1:1.

3. any excessive farming or retaling will lead to more severe retaliation on any country in your tag.

hopefully this will make things more fun =P

Confirmed!


This could be fun :)

LOOOOL

i hope you're looking to be killed cuz some of these people around here will take that as a challenge

"walkin' the green mile, boss"

if i didn't expect to be killed, i wouldn't have run 15 tyrannys =)

I wish you luck enforcing that.

and yeah...what CrazyDave said. The louder you bark about retals, the more you're gonna get grabbed.

what the fluff is going on in this server????

1 man tags telling the server how they are going to retal????

I think i will start grabbing and see if these ppl enforce it when i jam my size 10 up their date...

I only grab when it is profitable. Although if he started doing that, two can play at that game :P
That is if I wasn't at war, getting nuked :(

highrock must clearly be tired of playing his countries already

just join FoCuS, and stop worrying about LG's and retals.

Ha! Yay for one-man tags dictating rules.

As it is, you're already pretty much a total top-feeder when you consider you're running 80% jets in most of your countries.

If you enforce this, you will die, and you will die fast. Doesn't matter if they're tyrannies or not.

@Fiat: yea 16 countries is hard to maintain haha

@Gmann and others: thanks for the offer. i've gotten offers from many people to join them, but it's more fun to be out on my own.

@Twain: actually i would say 90% of my land has been from me getting way more on retals than people who grab me. That is why I run all jets. I've only "topfed" probably 3 or 4 times this reset total.

also i will be enforcing this selectively. some clans haven't really grabbed me all that much (much props to them), so i will just let things slide a little. others are much more grabby.

your all jet strategy only works if people decide to peacefully exchange grabs with you.

your all jet strategy gives them little incentive to do so.

Fixed that for ya..

I think I only grabbed you once this set. I try to avoid small tags more then one or two hits every few days at most.

for whatever it's worth, there's probably a middle ground on this issue...

hRock ought not be trying to enforce ridiculous retal policies, but at the same time, folks ought not be trying to farm him silly just because he's a 1 man clan.

*edit*

And for the record, KA will kill countries for enforcement of this policy.

for whatever it's worth, there's probably a middle ground on this issue...

hRock ought not be trying to enforce ridiculous retal policies, but at the same time, folks ought not be trying to farm him silly just because he's a 1 man clan.

*edit*

And for the record, KA will kill countries for enforcement of this policy. Retalling countries other than those that hit you doesn't fly in any server

good luck!

nowy he didnt say he was gonna retal other countries. he said he will retal all hits 1:1 then topfeed another country in your tag as a LG which he expects to be retalled only to annoy you.

haha if you look at my news, i wouldn't exactly call the clans that have been grabbing me "little".

Mate, us at PAN are only starting to hit you more because you topfed our big boys.

i "topfed" you once...after you yourself hit me 6 times...

Well I agree with Oz on this one. If someone topfed me... fair game, I had it coming. But don't expect a free ride after that for you.
I will not kill someone over something like that by a long shot. But I can and do have the capability of grabbing back... when I am not being hit by missiles, spy ops and other various destructive things :P

so what do you do after somebody hits you 4 times in one day with the same country as Oz did out of the blue and then threatened to farm you more?

Id probably build up for a week, kill the top 3 of his series, then AB/Nuke the rest.

thats some stellar advice K4F. :P

just so we're clear on what's going on:

all hits between my tag and PAN since the start of the reset:

LG #1 by me:

2010-12-07 04:41:08 PS hr10 (#258) bc hrock New York (#365) bc PANLV 1461A (2151A)



Retal by PAN (should have gotten a lot more, but they chose to retal with a Monarchy not really close to my NW)

2010-12-07 04:54:14 PS Isengard (#459) bc PANLV hr10 (#258) bc hrock 631A (874A)



2 LGs by PAN by the same person

2010-12-08 00:20:15 SS White Christmas (#1326) bc PANLV hr8 (#256) bc hrock 808A (1138A)
2010-12-08 00:15:19 PS A Christmas Carol (#1327) bc PANLV hr10 (#258) bc hrock 1284A (1787A)



2 retals by me (friendly messages exchanged)

2010-12-08 01:19:35 PS hr3 (#251) bc hrock A Christmas Carol (#1327) bc PANLV 1535A (2248A)
2010-12-08 01:11:13 PS hr10 (#258) bc hrock White Christmas (#1326) bc PANLV 720A (1053A)


4 LGs by PAN (Oz) in one day

2010-12-08 05:31:26 PS Kamikaze (#561) bc PANLV hr12 (#260) bc hrock 301A (499A)
2010-12-08 05:31:23 PS Kamikaze (#561) bc PANLV hr12 (#260) bc hrock 373A (689A)
2010-12-08 05:31:21 PS Kamikaze (#561) bc PANLV hr12 (#260) bc hrock 394A (717A)
2010-12-08 05:31:17 PS Kamikaze (#561) bc PANLV hr12 (#260) bc hrock 416A (746A)


4 retals (which is pretty lenient by me i think)

2010-12-09 08:34:14 PS hr5 (#253) bc hrock Kamikaze (#561) bc PANLV 1342A (1822A)
2010-12-08 08:30:57 PS hr1 (#249) bc hrock Kamikaze (#561) bc PANLV 1372A (1810A)
2010-12-08 08:25:24 PS hr4 (#252) bc hrock Kamikaze (#561) bc PANLV 1252A (1774A)
2010-12-08 08:16:40 PS hr8 (#256) bc hrock Kamikaze (#561) bc PANLV 1629A (2317A)

** Oz threatens to farm me more here **


2 LGs by me (not at the same time, although within 24 hours)

2010-12-11 06:59:35 PS hr4 (#252) bc hrock Carolina (#1227) bc PANLV 433A (433A)
2010-12-10 20:06:57 PS hr3 (#251) bc hrock NEW YEAR (#1268) bc PANLV 1440A (1521A)



2 retals (they get their land back and more via ghost acres)

2010-12-11 20:03:07 PS Praise God (#1231) bc PANLV hr4 (#252) bc hrock 980A (1425A)
2010-12-11 07:12:06 SS JOSEPH (#1281) bc PANLV hr3 (#251) bc hrock 523A (769A)



1 LG by me (the supposed "topfeed", which actually doesn't exist in FFA, if you can't defend your land, it's your fault)

2010-12-14 00:39:20 PS hr3 (#251) bc hrock The Human Kite (#64) bc PANLV 5905A (8715A)


Oz grabs me again:

2010-12-14 01:54:50 PS Kamikaze (#568) bc PANLV hr15 (#263) bc hrock 1478A (2128A)


1 retal:

2010-12-14 02:21:39 PS hr14 (#262) bc hrock Kamikaze (#568) bc PANLV 1931A (2559A)


Oz grabs me again:

2010-12-14 03:07:58 PS Kamikaze (#556) bc PANLV hr13 (#261) bc hrock 2094A (3207A)


Another 1 retal by me only:

2010-12-14 03:27:01 PS hr11 (#259) bc hrock Kamikaze (#556) bc PANLV 1520A (2056A)



Retal for my "topfeed" (they get almost all their land back, so it's not really even a topfeed...)

2010-12-15 13:41:58 PS Iron Maiden (#1746) bc PANLV hr3 (#251) bc hrock 3480A (5024A)



4 LGs by PAN (the same person)

2010-12-16 06:30:37 PS Lions Den (#2021) bc PANLV hr6 (#254) bc hrock 2165A (3183A)
2010-12-16 06:29:01 PS Lions Den (#2019) bc PANLV hr8 (#256) bc hrock 2860A (4209A)
2010-12-16 06:25:34 PS Lions Den (#2020) bc PANLV hr12 (#260) bc hrock 1273A (2146A)
2010-12-16 06:22:01 PS Lions Den (#2018) bc PANLV hr14 (#262) bc hrock 1865A (3072A)



3 retals by me (1 more pending)

2010-12-16 06:55:21 PS hr12 (#260) bc hrock Lions Den (#2020) bc PANLV 2016A (2827A)
2010-12-16 06:51:29 PS hr12 (#260) bc hrock Lions Den (#2018) bc PANLV 2023A (2791A)
2010-12-16 06:40:45 PS hr2 (#250) bc hrock Lions Den (#2019) bc PANLV 2489A (3403A)


Oz grabs me for the 7th time this reset:

2010-12-16 14:46:46 PS Kamikaze (#554) bc PANLV hr12 (#260) bc hrock 3236A (4760A)



Again only 1 retal by me:

2010-12-16 15:59:03 PS hr4 (#252) bc hrock Kamikaze (#554) bc PANLV 2743A (3991A)



Total:

LGs by PAN: 13 (7 by Oz)
LGs by me: 4 (including one supposed "topfeed" where they got back all but 900 acres)


So what am i doing that's so wrong?

kinda makes me wish i wasnt pacted to PAN lol.

Ill admit HR is a decent guy from ingame messages. When he did something that pushed TKO policy a bit i sent him a long message which somewhat explained it and more or less confused it more and we worked it out and we havnt had many issues since.

If he grabs me a few times through the rest of set hes still ok in my books =)

-KeTcHuP
TKO

LOL ketchup aren't you in Omega this set? i'm trying not to grab fellow Omegans (that's why Havoc hasn't been grabbed yet =P)

highrock...

You've came out ahead this set with your old retal policy. Why change it? No clans seriously farming you. No clans killed anything of yours. You've gained alot of land. Just keep doing what your doing, instead of stirring the pot.

hmmmm id just FS him.... kill 8 of the 15 and then laugh.....


ask Jam :)

true...like i said selective enforcement...probably very selective to clans that are going to abuse me...but PAN and i have worked things out for now =P

Love the policy LOL

everybody get two LG's on all his countries........at the same time..........................lololololol

U won't have enuff time to retal them all...................lololol
But seriously though, ur doing quite well for a 1 man tag, just continue to play ur countries like DS says. Everything will work out, but, there's always gonna be people who push the envelope. In real life and in this game. GL the rest of the set.

Hey think of how much better you're doing here compared to how you would be doing in 1a as a 1 man tag:P We're not that bad.

so.. basically what you are saying is...

if you get hit twice in one day by the same tag, you are going to retal 1:1 for both landgrabs, and then afterwards make a landgrab on a third country, which is retallable...


yeah thats fine I guess, but if my country gets hit by an all jetter tagged hrock i'm farming it until i get bored, and don't you dare try two-stepping before hand, otherwise i'll just kill all the hrock tagged countries involved. :P


other than that.... i don't see what the big deal is about this policy, all he's saying is he's gonna landgrab

highrock i just spied one of your countries. it had a lot of land and a relatively easy break. i was tempted to grab you but i felt like it would be a douchebag move lol. i felt like we would have both made out after the retal but opted to just explore for 100 turns instead.

wuss.

in times gone by, if you grabbed with jetters you got raped...


jetters = retallers...


cant defend ur land then lose it or tag up somewhere....


he just better hope i stay of the booze for another couple of weeks....

Indeed.. the main reason we were so worked up about that 'topfeed' was that the guy you hit with had 8m jets/2m turrets.. Pretty frowned upon.

that came our weird.

haha i actually only had to go so jet heavy because some Sanct guy tried bottom feeding me so i had to buy up about 6M jets to make the retals

haha actually i wouldn't mind too much if you hit me like that if we both come out ahead...that's actually how i've been getting about 90% of my land...i only mind when guys in the same clan hit me 3 or 4 times in a row.

also i will be enforcing this selectively.
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lmao

Well you're certainly doing your best to bring FFA policies towards untaggeds and single person tags more in line with 1A policies!

much rather get hit by a guy with 8m jets and 2m turrets then a guy with 2m jets and 8m turrets.

how about 8m jets and 8m turrets?