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Dec 14th 2010, 17:11:28

http://washingtonexaminer.com/node/145296

hmmm, maybe i should sue the state of NJ for requiring me to buy car insurance. what is with all these people passing laws just to raise my cost of living?
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Dec 14th 2010, 17:18:23

let us know how that works out for ya...

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Dec 14th 2010, 17:44:02

http://www.democraticunderground.com/...10484&mesg_id=4310591

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http://online.wsj.com/...04574416623109362480.html

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http://answers.yahoo.com/...qid=20101213120236AA9qeOV

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hmmm, might've missed a step in filling out that template...
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Dec 14th 2010, 18:11:56

Dibs: If someone who doesn't have car insurance hits you, your sue the state. New Jersey is looking after the interests of its tax payers by requiring insurance.

New Jersey is too broke to provide free liability insurance to people too cheap to buy it.
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Dec 14th 2010, 18:23:47

how do they figure that they're guaranteed anything in life?
they shouldn't have to provide free liability insurance, the people who want to be insured in case of an accident should have to buy it. i shouldn't have to pay it just because i'm not Joe Millionaire who they can over-sue for fictitous damages.
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Dec 14th 2010, 18:28:52

you do not HAVE to have a car, thus you dont not HAVE to buy insurance....

what the govt is doing is not giving you a choice in the matter of having health insurance. and if you do not buy it then you pay a fine.

like me, I am health not had to go to doctors outside of 1 incedent in 14 years. what is the point in my having health care for those 14 years i would have saved as much as the 1 incedent would have cost 10 fold. or lets say i happen to have the cash to pay for what may happen to me and i dont want insurance...government FORCING me to buy insurance is unconstitutional.
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Dec 14th 2010, 18:35:43

fine for not having health insurance? i thought they just made you pay higher income taxes if you didn't have health insurance? don't recall seeing anything that stated you could be fined for not making any money and not having health insurance.
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Dec 14th 2010, 18:36:03

They should just make it so some basic level of insurance is provided "for free" by the federal govt, and the "fees" are just rolled into income tax...
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Dec 14th 2010, 18:38:30

Originally posted by qzjul:
They should just make it so some basic level of insurance is provided "for free" by the federal govt, and the "fees" are just rolled into income tax...


that's what i thought they did. from what i remember reading, i will be required to get health insurance or pay the government via income tax whatever the average rate for it is.

meh, think you're all crazy...

how is it any different than being required to pay Social Security taxes? doesn't matter that based on statistics, i probably won't collect one dime of what i've contributed, i still have to pay the stupid tax.

Edited By: Dibs Ludicrous on Dec 14th 2010, 18:47:05
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Dec 14th 2010, 21:44:35

it is the fact that it isn`t a tax that would make it unconstitutional here in Brazil.

it boggles my mind that a federal law is forcing you to buy a private service.

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Dec 14th 2010, 22:11:33

technically, healthcare is a public service since you don't actually have to pay for it when you receive it, least not if it's a "live saving" treatment, like they've ever saved a life. think they're just trying to get all the money into one pot so it's easier for them to take turns stealing from it.

http://answers.yahoo.com/...n/index?qid=1006042530862

$8,000 per day? oh my, seems a tad bit expensive, maybe i can get a cheaper quote that only involves 1 doctor, 1 nurse and the electrical cost required to operate the machinery. oh, we have to add in the pro-rated cost of the machinery.

and we also have this:

http://abcnews.go.com/...-outrage/story?id=9036632

it's wealthcare. it's not about saving lifes, it's about hoarding money.

http://www.bing.com/...SearchBox&Form=IE8SRC

oh god. probably have to skim at least 30 pages of the search to get even close to finding out how much money the government grants to the healthcare industry to be able to help the poor and impoverished.

Edited By: Dibs Ludicrous on Dec 14th 2010, 22:39:33
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Dec 14th 2010, 22:59:09

http://www.metlife.com/...-home-assisted-living.pdf

can somebody translate this into English?
i want to know how much it costs on average to be 70 years old or older...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1361028/

"After the first year of life, health care costs are lowest for children, rise slowly throughout adult life, and increase exponentially after age 50 (Meerding et al. 1998). Bradford and Max (1996) determined that annual costs for the elderly are approximately four to five times those of people in their early teens. Personal health expenditure also rises sharply with age within the Medicare population. The oldest group (85+) consumes three times as much health care per person as those 65–74, and twice as much as those 75–84 (Fuchs 1998). Nursing home and short-stay hospital use also increases with age, especially for older adults (Liang et al. 1996)."

oops, let me see, the oldest, most unproductive people who are mostly ignored regardless of the wisdom that they've gathered over their years, because they can't seem to be able to recall it because of dementia, cost the most to keep alive. must be for some kinda sentimental reason of their progeny, or could it simply be because they're the best suckers left?

Edited By: Dibs Ludicrous on Dec 14th 2010, 23:12:33
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Dec 14th 2010, 23:29:21

omg! i actually googled up a proof.

if i could remember what i was trying to prove...

i swear, they make the reason for editing shorter and shorter.

Wealthcare For Everyone!!!!

near as i can tell, based on the Obamacare initiative, you want me to pay $1500 more in taxes a year because of another failing industry. it's not my fault that we're running out of old people to care for. they just keep dropping dead no matter what we do to save them.

Edited By: Dibs Ludicrous on Dec 14th 2010, 23:50:39
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Dec 15th 2010, 2:05:56

in rational coutries yeah, healthcare would be a public service that would be financed by taxes. But that obviously is not the case of the USA Dibs.

And that still does not make what is happening overthere be a "tax" legally speaking.