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Oct 23rd 2013, 16:18:28

I keep running across people who don't understand why the President will not delay the individual mandate, ie the penalty portion of the ACA (Obamacare, PPACA, whatever you want to call it). The general argument is he delayed the employer mandate so why won't he delay the individual mandate.

This requires a little explanation since many people still don't understand the mandate's penalty/fee/tax (also whatever you want to call it). The basic rule is individuals must obtain qualified coverage (an important distinction given many old plans wouldn't qualify) in 2014 otherwise they are assessed a fee on their 2015 tax returns.

Where people appear to be confused is the fee amount. It is $95 OR 1% of your taxable income, whichever is GREATER. It goes up to $325 or 2% in year two. And then it's $695 or 2.5%. So very few people will actually be paying $95 in the first year unless they're over 26 (or don't have a parents plan to latch onto), earning less than $9,500 in taxable income, not on Medicaid, etc. Meaning, the fee is much higher for most people and will likely range from $400-1,000.

This brings us around to why there delay will never occur. Currently, these fees will be assessed in the 2015 tax year. If you delay it for a year, then the first time many people will realize the fee is not a smaller $95 figure is when they submit their taxes between January 1, 2016-April 15, 2016 (or, if they file for an extension, until October 17, 2016--15th is a Saturday). In other words, millions of people would be hit by a large fee in a Presidential election year when they expected a small fee.

So any delay would either be two years or nothing since you want people to incur the fee in an the off-election year. There you have it.

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Oct 23rd 2013, 16:24:07

Can you say Dhimmitude!
I don't need anger management, people need to stop pissing me off!

GodHead Dibs Game profile

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Oct 23rd 2013, 16:37:17

Obama The Clown, Greatest Con-Artist On The Planet!
Dibs Ludicrous was here.

mdevol Game profile

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Dec 21st 2013, 6:22:31

oops
Surely what a man does when he is caught off his guard is the best evidence as to what sort of man he is. - C.S. Lewis

ericownsyou5 Game profile

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Dec 22nd 2013, 9:44:06

My employer pays 100% of my medical, dental and vision insurance.

SO: http://imgur.com/TALVv

GodHead Dibs Game profile

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Dec 30th 2013, 20:35:06

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/...-vending-machines-in-u-s/

wth? people are putting money in a machine and don't have a clue what they are buying? guess that's where the subsidies will be going. pay to upgrade vending machines to notify the idiots that there isn't anything worth buying from them. maybe they think that it's a slot machine.
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farmer Game profile

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Dec 31st 2013, 22:58:04

bought ins not on the exchange site but through a local agent. not many questions just do you smoke is the main one it is high priced considering the high deductible 6k per each of us limit 12k

Oceana Game profile

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Jan 5th 2014, 14:49:23

It not a care plan but an anti-care Insurance industry plan, He lines his pockets about the same way all the other politicans do, He still on the campaign trail, and hasn't figured out he can't run again.

GodHead Dibs Game profile

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Jan 5th 2014, 20:58:06

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25438325

so, we're going to have to start outsourcing the elderly, eh? sorry, granny. going to have to send you over seas because we can't pay our health care workers enough to care about how well they are treating you.
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Jan 6th 2014, 11:01:32

Twain Game profile

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Jan 7th 2014, 2:09:43

Originally posted by Cerberus:
Can you say Dhimmitude!


You do realize that's a hoax, right? Wait, it's you. Of course you don't.

http://www.politifact.com/...-care-law-exempts-muslim/

qwertyqwerty Game profile

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Jan 7th 2014, 3:19:35

The U.S. needs to stop inching towards socialized medicine and return to the principles of the free market and laissez-faire.