Sep 14th 2012, 1:58:23
CK:
1) Your understanding of subprime loans is deeply flawed. I recommend you spend time reading Tanta's posts on Calculated Risk -- she was in charge of loan risk control at a regional bank, and her posts were quoted in papers by the Fed.
2) "The government meddled in the financial market for social progress reasons instead of logic" : This statement is 100% wrong. The private market failed. The private market gave money to people who couldn't pay it back, and then BEGGED THE GOVERNMENT to prevent them from failing.
Nobody forced countrywide to give $800k loans to immigrant day laborers. Seriously, what about the following scenario is difficult to understand: Countrywide gave the loan to that day laborer because they had the law changed so they were no longer liable.. the Countrywide loan officers paid themselves a ridiculous bonus because they booked it as profit and sold the note within 30 days, before it was in default.. this was the definition of the private market scam, and had ZERO to do with the government.
CRA loans are better quality than everything given by the private market -- always have been, always will be. Median income combined with low home value is a good loan, not a bad loan. Seriously, you're simply objectively wrong on this. The point is that before the CRA, the people who receive CRA loans couldn't get loans because bank officers were racially discriminating against them. Look up red-lining as well before commenting on the CRA again, because the entire point of the CRA was to define how red-lining was no longer acceptable. Red-lining is deliberately, explicitly racist.
If you actually think "government intervened" in the market, do some research for yourself. Compare the numerical total of private market loan origination total dollar values between 2003 - 2007 to total CRA loans in the same time period - which, by the way, are 100% prime loans. Incidentally, even CRA loans are formally originated by banks, not government.. because banks still receive the profits from those loans.
The government does not "inflate" the housing market -- Wall Street does that all by themselves because they skim profits from each sale.
1) Your understanding of subprime loans is deeply flawed. I recommend you spend time reading Tanta's posts on Calculated Risk -- she was in charge of loan risk control at a regional bank, and her posts were quoted in papers by the Fed.
2) "The government meddled in the financial market for social progress reasons instead of logic" : This statement is 100% wrong. The private market failed. The private market gave money to people who couldn't pay it back, and then BEGGED THE GOVERNMENT to prevent them from failing.
Nobody forced countrywide to give $800k loans to immigrant day laborers. Seriously, what about the following scenario is difficult to understand: Countrywide gave the loan to that day laborer because they had the law changed so they were no longer liable.. the Countrywide loan officers paid themselves a ridiculous bonus because they booked it as profit and sold the note within 30 days, before it was in default.. this was the definition of the private market scam, and had ZERO to do with the government.
CRA loans are better quality than everything given by the private market -- always have been, always will be. Median income combined with low home value is a good loan, not a bad loan. Seriously, you're simply objectively wrong on this. The point is that before the CRA, the people who receive CRA loans couldn't get loans because bank officers were racially discriminating against them. Look up red-lining as well before commenting on the CRA again, because the entire point of the CRA was to define how red-lining was no longer acceptable. Red-lining is deliberately, explicitly racist.
If you actually think "government intervened" in the market, do some research for yourself. Compare the numerical total of private market loan origination total dollar values between 2003 - 2007 to total CRA loans in the same time period - which, by the way, are 100% prime loans. Incidentally, even CRA loans are formally originated by banks, not government.. because banks still receive the profits from those loans.
The government does not "inflate" the housing market -- Wall Street does that all by themselves because they skim profits from each sale.
Edited By: Unsympathetic on Sep 14th 2012, 2:26:16
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