ok, I guess you still don't understand my comment based on your last sentence.

i'm not talking about taking the land, I'm talking about using it to gain stock and eventually networth once the war is decided and/or over (aka CF'ed). LCN did a poor job of that, IMO, whereas PDM actually did something constructive in the netting arena despite being forced into a war against an opponent whom we had no issues with that would make us think a war is coming.

I dovetailed my response there to respond to goodpeace too -- it's one thing when SoL "blindsides" LaF when they have ongoing issues, but there was only one minor ingame issue and LCN hadn't been posturing for war with PDM. the way PDM was blind was that they trusted LCN to actually have some semblance of good within them. but evidently, that was not the case :p