Trying not to take sides here but I agree with Nukevil. If looks like the "lonewolf" is what happened to LAF here. From reading the posts I would have to agree with the AB'er on this one even if Forgotten does not. It is an alliance game and Forgotten regardless of if you like it or not, what your alliance does impacts other countries in your alliance. Example if 1 random country farms an untagged and can't retal that country and they decide to hit another country in your alliance. You may not like that and will probably kill that country. But don't forget it was your initial member who farmed him/her first. I really hate the idea of this is alliance game and I'm not responsible for what my other alliance members do.

On your idea if 6 Laf members take part in a kill run on a SOF country and in return SOF declares WAR on LAF, don't say "well I NEVER took part in the kill, why did SOF kill my country". Thats the game!! From what I'm reading Laf killed an untagged for Stones, that untagged did harmful ops and AB's two large land players in your alliance.

The idea the Untagged was killed by these 6 Laf countries...why was I hit in retaliation is a bit silly. This untagged country did not just randomly hit Laf for no reason, your alliance killed him/her. WHAT were you expecting? for the killed country to say "ok no problem I will move on now"? Sorry to tell you this but untags and lonewolfs I think really are the only thing keeping other alliances in check. In the post above you know this persons country is "you leave me B I leave U B" or something like that why is LAF not killing it? It is simply because with the restart rates, that is the only way to unsure that country is not killed over and over again. If your alliance wants to pick fights than all members of an alliance are impacted. That is my view of "ALLIANCE SERVER". Not just the idea of "ALLIANCE SERVER" should only be for alliances.

Just my 2 cents