Yep. Many ICN were Elders loyalists. Others were warmongers. We made it clear to Nole that we didn't want to pact out of this war and we wanted to participate. The clan voted 70% to join this war. Nole went behind our backs and pacted laf because he didn't trust that our allies would help us, essentially undermining the entire tag and leaving our allies high and dry. And not just our allies. Tags we were loyal to. I'm an ICN lifer but I just don't abide by that fluff.