Technically us ICNers intended on staying and playing in ICN. I just asked that laf leave alone the 3 or 4 man elders tag that got basically abandoned over 2 reunion sets that were going on. Laf had full knowledge that tag wanted no part of hitting them, and that us elders in ICN would detag and hit laf if they did. I said this all very directly to several laf leaders. Y'all just didnt believe us, or got fluffy or something. Not sure. You guys for sure tried to take advantage of that reunion tho. That was when i first started doing FA for elders and it was the first of many times i kept my word with laf FAs. It only took one set for me to negotiate peace with laf tho, a fact I'm very proud of.

We were pretty bitter at the time with each other, but i dont see how smashing a peaceful 3 man tag and getting smoked for it by pact breakers makes you more dignified. It's more like a bunch of people being assholes to each other rather than good guys and bad guys.

Hard to argue with laf's success since tho. That part you're spot on with.