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good luck finding someone..

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yeah I imagine there will be less techers :/

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I am glad you did or there would be another 30m tech per day that wont sell..

here is your problem in misunderstanding FFA:

"You should see the following general market trends on a server without any big wars:"

FFA is not like any other server that is played.

Honestly if you did not know that then you have been mistaken in your understanding of FFA the entire time.

Human players make NW from bots by exploiting them not for land, but for market manipulations.

Also I'd love to know how much of the current market movement is from bots rather than players, where as last set it was about 50/50, now its clear the bots are buying a lot more stuff in general than before.

But this is the way it is here now and I suppose we will have to adjust to just being alliance sever with more countries rather than what we have been accustomed to.

no I'm saying is that bar myself, no one on this server has been using the bots for land in a lot of resets.

Most people run to 100k and that is the absolute max.

Atm there is one guy running FFO's at 100k acres, and one with 127k on a self farmed country.

meaningful change is one thing, I guess as one of the guys who this set didn't bother to run a multi-strat string I am stuck now with a tech market that is probably gunna be a mess.

Its all lessons learned I suppose.

you know that people don't grab off strat because of the changes to lands gained right?

There is absolutely 0 reason for anyone to run cashers in ffa, and thus those bots will never get hit unless someone really wants to rainbow for more gains in land.

Bots in ffa are not land farms like in Alliance/Express. They are the major source of NW through market sales/manipulation. so that is why they are not hit as much.

Absolutely no one who plays FFA has the time to smash out 16 500k acre FFO's, but maybe we would smash out some 100kA techers or a handful of FFOs..

Slag, you have to remember that people play each server for different things which is why the bot changes for FFA made no sense, and yes we have to get used to it, how ever you've basically stopped most people interacting with the bots in any way, finding the correct strat has become harder for those who are unaware so that will limit how many people grab anyway, but the market changes are going to crash the markets for those who are used to a level of stability, ensuring their goods/tech are brought while also allowing a decent level of market resellability.

Alright, so for FFA they are hard to comprehend. They act alone and more like normal players, however that has never been the goal of ffa bots, there is almost 2000 of them..

The new style upsets the market so much that most strategies will have to solely produce their entire NW jump because there is no potential for stocking. I suppose we will have to adjust how to play to get the most out of it, it just hurts when the bots play and destabilise the entire market by either over producing or over purchasing.. they don't have the ability to make a decision like a player of holding turns rather than buying $300 food, or not teching and selling standard techs for $500 less than the current SO (because ave prices say so).

As far as I am aware they have no ability to use SO's either correct?

Im just gunna add with some others here..

These new bots are so fluff for FFA..

Also the bots are down again..

express has different selling price..

so.. what your saying is that they will end up dumping to private to jump..

I mean as in selling their stocked food, like some of these techers may end up having 3-4b bushels..

They are going to sell on private for 35, no way they will sell on public for a sellable price, if they do someone is gunna make some serious bank because they will be selling for $15 per bushel just to get them all to move in enough time, and buy what ever they can.. which will be nothing because the market in FFA is always empty at the end once the players start destocking..

which is gunna suck a lot actually, because they wont destock via the public, they will just keep buying and then sell onto private..

$20-25 now..

And no one is stocking yet..

I think its also a change because the Techer bots will be stocking food, and thus buying a lot more food than normal.

Or a backwards step.. either or..

forgot to jump..

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pfft its like his 3rd sale so far.. its not exactly huge numbers..

Boring..

I seriously think that its him selling tech, and causing a decent pop loss..

ok, almost everyone is retired..

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Everyone is retired..

I am so confused.

Way to overkill the thread Mob!

its not hard to change, but most people actually play less than the max amount..

yeah know that feeling all too well..

16 was close to the 15 limit that Earth had at the end..

no plans to change so far lol.

lol yes..

Meh I'll own it..

Math is actually fun :P

Achieved for 1 turn? or for an entire set?

I think the max for a rep casher is like $64 with 11:9 Ent/Res and 34% tax..

But you could go down to 0% tax and have all ENT and probably get a ton higher.. for that 1 turn thing..

to stop people running multis?

only 600b to jump? gees..

lol first world problems..

its like a billionaire fluffing about paying $5.00 for a coffee..

but its an interesting issue given its a left over from the old E:2025 days..

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hopefully they have tagged some place by now..

Still alive according to eestats..

Grats TC!

come on fluffhead, did it deserve the double post?

yeah fluff, Beerdrinker jumped one reset with all tech because there was no oil on the market..

I didn't even notice but at least it'll be a gas while it "oxidizes rapidly".

Not a Math question really it's a chemistry question..

If you count the Stoichiometric values you will find that you have a reactant values of 2 N, 8 H and 4 O moles, which means the only possible solution for this is A) 4 H2O + N2

if you want some free resources to help with this kind of stuff let me know and I can share..