This is very useful information thank you.

One thing i dont think has been mentioned is his networth has moved- Considerably. He topped 50mil at one point and he has tons of other countries not under protection-

I also took a gander at some market trends and max buyout/sell prices since he jumped and then broke down his networth into military units, oil, food & land based on a full division of his maximum networth and then went with the nearest value to his total networth I believe he is one of the ones controlling a major fraction of the bushels market right now -
especially since his net gains/losses in military units far exceed the maximum amounts of said military units bought and sold on the market during the hours of his drops/gains- but match the amount of food moved during said hours.

Oil prices/volume also correlate with his jumps.

Im not saying this is the case- just that there is a strong likelyhood- especially since it would explain the early destock

Do the bots respect a price minimum/maximum or do they adapt respectively without limits??

What do these bots do and how do they work exactly

Macdaddy is canadian?? What part of canada

Oh my.

Sinistril i feel obliged to clarify too- that to me "ridiculously low" is relative to the current market high/avg.

Sorry for the multiposting folks

Im sure it can be code for what ever youd like- for the right price lol

I also wanted to mention... i see a few signs of some very wealthy players stocking the market in other areas. Are any of you in control of the 36bil to 50bil in bushels i see or the 6 bil in warfare tech that popped up recently?,

Theres been some deviance but ive managed to keep the market stocked with troops (71/81) jets (121/131) and turrets (71/100) for just under a day now with a few higher priced things popping up as the hours passed

The only reason im mentioning this is for feedback- not trying to boost my ego

If you bought them at 135 or under then you bought them from me.

And if you sold them under 129 then i probably bought them. Or at least a number of them

Depends on what country. What im doing. Ect.

To be honest i dont spend many turns unless teching so teching after expenses at 60% avg market price is 20mil a turn.

But in terms of just sheer purchasing power/reselling i am moving about 10bil$ through the market at any given time with a profit margine of about 100-200$mil per 1bil$ in movement.

So in 1 turn collectively assuming no purchases and a full sale of liquid assets+ my 5988 in tech per one turn i think it would be accurate to say 500mil - 1bil$ If i really push my market prices- 100-200$ on a slow period

Its important to note i am constantly moving between 15-20mil turrets, jets, and troops at any given time (through standing orders and market sales)

If you take a look at the market prices right now for turrets jets troops - i did that 100%

This is true. However i would argue that the availability of such a plethora of options no matter how unused they may be - does add an element of immersion in the form of a sense of more control over what one can and can not do

Im still not sold on market stocking as long as all your money is moving through the market at a constant rate... maybe i will learn the hard way

That is reasonable and i completely understand- i just see alot of potential growth for this game- and it really is a great game- so i think its worth a few shots in the dark

Fair enough. To be honest it will take some serious creativity to expand on spy ops - most everything which can be considered practicaly viable and balanced within the framework of the games mechanics has been covered.

I did try

I agree- this is exactly why i choose to keep it simple with just "contrast-based" suggestions
Like turrets(air) to bunkers (ground) - troops (standard weak) spec ops (expensive stronger) ect

Maybe a spy op expansion??????

Example.... espionage gives. 0.5% chance to "steal" a random missile - just as a comparison to some of the real life nuclear espionage occuring now.

If they need some coders i could put in a word to the d2 open folk

General elaboration on units?

EMP missile? Disables missiles, lowers spy/military readiness- small # buildings destroyed?

Troops/special forces (expensive, less losses incurred, bigger bonus from medical and milityary strategy)- tanks/light armored vehicles (less oil/upkeep, less durable- greater effecty vs troops?)- turrets/bunkers(ground defense vs tanks/ troops), jets/bombers (more expensive, greater attack strength- more oil required- more vulnerable to turrets?)

Just ideas.. definitely an EMP missile and maybe a hydrogen bomb (*10 more damage than nuke, production not affected by warfare, 0.5% chance flat base production?)

yes that seems to be the best route. Turrets oil and food seem to move pretty quickly too. Luckilynot enough that it can buyout my buffer

Thx for the tip.

Depends on what strats they go with imo.

Just stat wise id put my money on hellrush though unless macdaddy pulls a rabbit out of his ass which he could

I dont know. But i know ao will dominate in this confrontation.

This game needs an official app in my opinion.. convience sells and an app could
streamline the playing experience.

Makes sense. Im just playing with the markets right now and seeing how they react a bit more. any pointers on market manipulation? I have about 10-20bil in collective cash and assets to work with

Im assuming this is related since i see macdaddy and ao killing each other - along with everybody else.

What did i say marshall. This is better that tv- just look at the news feed in ffa its ffvcking beautiful

Its odd though. I dont see many standing orders set to those low prices. I have 3 sales active as we speak that are about 15$ below private market sell price

Sucks. I was set to finish top 10 :(. Ill be lucky if im even top 100 now lol

Yes. And a willingness to spend turns to place large numbers of small batches of units at ridiculously low prices.

I find this to work really well during low activity hours. Less people awake trying to counter the market manipulation through quick buyouts

Yeah im not a fan of MB

its just easier to force abnormally low market prices- buy up the competition and resell on private lol

Perfect thank you.

Im seeing some very strong similiarities between #91 and #92

Both are attacking indiscriminately and seem to be trying to knock people off leaderboards using the same attack patterns. Also if im not mistaken i see a "switch-off" in the time stamps between attack runs

Just a heads up. Take a look at the news feed. This guys cancer.

Hes already hit a few top 25 players

Does anybody know what the absolute maximum sell value for each sellable good on the Private Market is

I cannot seem to find any formulas or tables on wiki/web/forums (maybe im missing something?)

right now im stuck selling low quantities of units (1-3million) on public market and i need to know if Is it worth my time to switch labs to MB eventually for sales/purchases or just to stockpile cash via Public Market sales and buy low on the PM

At the moment im shuffling between the two and manipulating market prices accordingly but the instability during peak activity hours is causing huge fluctuations in my cost to profit ratio

This is better than tv. Really. I dont want to miss the climax lol

This fluff is better than tv

Looks like somebody is out to get me then. Should be interesting lol


And sorry vic. TKO already scooped me up :)

Hmm. Perhaps you are right. Maybe i was too hasty in my decision making.

Ive been wondering too what does detah mean? I can only assume death?

Thx for the link itll be useful

And yes i actually have a demo techer for the purpose of reselling- the tyranny techer is an experiment at the moment.

A billion networth you say? I did not realise this but i realise now my strategies seem to be strongly geared towards the express enviroment. I understand now how quicklyt i will need to transistion....

(Also... that guy i hit with the clan for 7400 acres... he was 5+ Ranks below me and he is a 1 man clan... or at least the only person on FFA server in CC :) -- in otherwords your advice is good advice - but advice that i already try to play by- not to sound ungrateful.)

I will probably be joining TKO - hopefully i will be of some use to them

Sent you a msg warster :)

Also macdaddy- in defense of my pride---- all that military was bought piece by piece when prices dropped to specific points.... in otherwords- my entire military is resell-able at current market prices for an enormous profit :D (and for the exact purpose youve stated)


I can see where you are coming from though sinistril- i know i wont finish top 10 with the current setup i have-- i will admit i am a little gun-shy right now since i have no clan which with less military makes me an easy mark for land grabbers and suiciders

I am open to joining TKO - is this the same as TKOwned? Also out of curiousity- and i dont mean to sound arrogant- but, What kind of standing accomplishments is this clan known for?

And no. I am nobodies room mate. Lol

Honestly i preffer my own strats simply because i enjoy theorycrafting and figuring out how to make unorthodox approaches really work. - (that being said i cant really argue that this strat is good or bad yet- and you probably know better than me honestly)

However in order to do this i need to understand all the other strats and the meta and im hoping a top tier clan can help me do that. (i do read extensively on this game in order to better my work and i take my gaming seriously- i am also quite good with formulas and write formulas for another game)

The plan is to sell military soon after a couple more land grabs then double my tech output and rebuy military then repeat.
(All my buildings and extra land except tech labs were from a single 7400 acre land grab)

Also since i have no clan as defensive insurance i like to have need a little more protection.

If i play this right though i should finish between #5 and #1 i predict.

Just stating all this for clarity. However ultimately After everything has been said and done i believe ive reached a point where in order to improve i will need the knowledge only more experienced groups of players can provide.

Hello i am looking for a clan on the free-for-all server

Currently i am rank #1 & #2 as cha0s and Happy

Prefferably a clan that will allow me to run my own theory crafted techer strats

Well... i am noob... but i am also #1 and #2 on free for all with no clan right now and the single strongest military on free for all for now at least...

To be honest ive been eyeing clans like xAOx and IMP - are they reputable at all?

Also at the moment i play free-for-all and express almost exclusively until i can find a decent clan- id rather have a clan reach out to me though.

I noticed that. It was a nice surprise which allowed me and another to level a select country