And, when players are reporting it, and you have playwr A bouncing an op, then within say 5-10 minutes player B is successfullly breaking with no op at all, and this is happening consistently with those two countries and players, set in and set out, the inference and belief gets much stronger.

With due respect, it has gotta be a two way street, especially on a server where its supposed to be solo play.

A failed op does not. However, a reasonable inference can be made that multiple ops until a successful op was made ovcurred.

With all due respect, your response comes off as deliberately trying to minimise or downplay the believed collusion attempts

So far as I can tell, it appears to be players complaining about other players actively colluding.
Player A spying on Player B, then passing that info to Player C for Player C to make hits.

When behaviour like that, in a server where such collusion is supposed to be banned, is allowed to continue, it gives the impression, intended or not, that the mods and devs are protecting, or giving special treatment, to said players.

This is absolutely something that will cause player frustration and unhappiness, especially when said players are seemingly doing it so regularly that the rest of the playerbase are seeing the pattern, reporting it and nothing happening, whilst people seemingly get banned for even mild trolling upon the boards.

Now. I dont play this server, so my opinion to a degree is irrelevant.
However, I have attempted to choose my words carefully, in order to respectfully convey what it appears that the mods may be misunderstanding/misinterpreting in their response to the playerbase.

it IS concerning, because, so far as I can tell, it prevents players from being able to play the game properly.

As near as I can tell, it prevents players from making any form of offensive hit, or any spy ops at all against any country, unless that country hits them first.
That also means that players are therefore effectively forced into all X strats only for any netting they might attempt. which puts them at a disadvantage, given that it seemingly also applies across multiple servers.

I cannot say 100% for certain that this is happening, but if it is, then yes, it's a genuine issue, depending on what it is given for, and how.

If say, it is given to someone for 2-3 sets after an extended, demonstrated history of intentional suiciding and griefing, fair enough.
If it's say, given for 10 years because someone made a trolling forum post, not so much.

EDITED to clarify and expand on my meaning and intent.

Going to be honest, I enjoyed taking retals on you when you grabbed us a couple of sets back.
I'm actually not opposed personally to some level of grabbing and retalling, within reason.
IN MY OPINION, it leads to inter clan relations as FA's chat to each other, and induvidual players do so as well via ingame messages and the like.
That said, excessive grabbing does lead to bad blood.

Ironically, when there was large amounts of land trading going back ohhh probably a decade or so now? people got pissy that clans were grabbing and retalling each other in a friendly and relaxed manner.

There are a variety of ways to play the game, and the scores are based on final NW, rather than attacks etc.

So far as I can tell, this isn't a slow loss.
looks like, counting the active player countries via EEStats, I would say at least a 10-20% drop from this set to next?

gotta stop feeding you chilli. not good for your stomach after all ;)

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
*doctor evil.jpg*

If you'd been honest that you were landgrabbing for the sake of landgrabbing, and with the intent to drive someone out of the game, sure.
Trying to falsely implicate others for the sake of starting dramas, well that's fluffty.

🙄

yep.

Someone is playing games with you.
Probably the same people who suicided Omega last set and claimed that we told them to do so.
(which is why we helped Omega kill them, because we didn't)

Omega are netters, but won't hesitate to do something for themselves if they need to. They don't get others to do their work for them.

Henrik is an old member of the community, I suggest you reach out to him, he's a good sort.

this is valid,
you may have a cookie for that...

I'm not angry with you, just disappointed in a fatherly way...
Mostly over bringing P-Diddy...
Ruthie is welcome, and well, accidents with baby oil drums just happen, I understand :P

do you supply or require the chilli and beer?

I have missed this, keep up the good work :D

he also got my nose and makeup pallette!
How will I do my clown face makeup now???
DISASTER!

resolved indeed :)

aah, missed this, thankyou.

Down at present, not sure who needs to know :)

catdog!
CATDOG!
Alone in the world was a little catdog!

please reach out to me folks!
left a message with Tert but he seems to be inactive atm :)

who is CWG Herby?
they have their own love bug??

welcome back :)
I'll pop over to the big top with popcorn soon :)

hexor isn't actually an alt lol
as an old paradigm guy yourself, you should also know who he is :P

stump

this post was deleted for bonus reasons

I would say every alliance takes on responsibility for their members anyway, or should?
that's part of being in an alliance?

Sometimes, that aslo involves alliances removing members who don't live up to the rules and expectations of said alliance.

everyone loves the fluffmegans ;)

still down as of this comment, same error :)

gone down again :/
error 502 this time, bad gateway

502 Bad Gateway
nginx/1.18.0 (Ubuntu)

Did you also post with the appalling french accent of the Gambit in Deadpool V Wolverine? :P

Paradigm and Omega offhand, I believe others mentioned that they were as well.

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anyone able to kick Pang, Boxcar seems to be horribly broken again. nothing but a white screen on the link address atm.

Doug seems to have been a little quiet here of late. Not even a response to being declared war on

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dougie:
I ain't even mad. About time you grew half a set.

I'm sure, in your mind, I put everyone up to this, and I orchestrated it all as some grand plan.
I'm flattered, but you did this to yourself. Again.
I joined the KR for the same reason that I reinforced that your ban was permanent.

You tried to pay someone to hit Paradigm. The alliance you were supposedly loyal to.

You also tried to get other alliances to declare war on Paradigm.
(Did you think we wouldn't find out??)
All because YOU couldn't handle that you were removed from leadership for being dishonest, corrupt, and attempting to turn Paradigm into the Cult of Doug.

History repeats itself when you don't learn the lessons that you were given opportunity to learn from.

You had the chance to learn when you got caught out feeding player numbers and details to Blackhole so he could suicide on Paradigm.

You had the chance to learn when I ripped you to shreds on our discord about censorship, deleting posts and attempting to silence criticism. (behaviours that actively drove multiple paradigm players out)

Instead you chose to lay low for a bit, then simply start the same behaviours over again.

When we had the Paradigm schism, once again caused by your deleting posts, and seemingly innately corrupt nature that you had to "cover things up", you had another opportunity to learn.

Again, nothing changed, and you went back to deleting/editing posts (only your own at this stage).
When we finally booted you, after yet another explicit warning, because you decided to actively harass the leader of another alliance via ingame messages because they blocked you on Discord, AND attempted to goad another player who blocked you in discord directly because they didn't want to deal with, or interact with, you further, instead of learning from THAT, you chose to double down and continue the same old tired crap.

I sincerely hope you FINALLY learn from this, accept that what has happened is the end result of your own actions, get a little maturity, and not only start getting the help you need, but genuinely engage with it.

If someone can be so kind as to send me the receipts for this so I can go over them, that would be appreciated.

Drow
Paradigm President

CWG are also back if you like a bit of insanity.

*waves a seltzer water flower about wildly*

Just in case you aren't, I put a post up and linked your post here, along with the names you're looking for, and that you're looking for them :)

Are you a member of the Earth:2025 group on the Facebooks?
try there as well :)

that name rings a bell, but to a different username?

welcome back :)

I thought you knew who gave them to your leaders?
That's the person you should start with

Rokkie, you're a good sort, you won't hear otherwise from here.

SF, you and I have had our run ins, but we both seem to be past them now.

TAN is doing what TAN does best and trolling the forums.

TAN also has no serious designs, and never has had any serious designs, on being a mod.

That is all.

I've retired and come back to the game multiple times. For different reasons each time.
Bots weren't even a thing until my most recent or so comeback. If anything, I'd argue the game's decay has slowed since then.

That said, it is clear that the game cannot continue on the trajectory it is at the moment.
I agree with you on the forums issue, and tbh, I stay out of EECord for more or less the same reason, even though I know there's a whole bunch of old timers I'd love to chat with still.

It's no longer really alliance smack talk that goes on here.

Let me put this challenge to you all"
How many of you have kids, and how many would let, or encourage, your kids to play?
I actually have, though in my kid's case, he isn't currently active, because his computer is dead, he lives 300km away from me, and he finds it painful to play on his phone.

If you wouldn't let your kids play, why not?

We as the community are both Earth's greatest strength, and tbh, it's greatest weakness.

The game itself has always been so so, and once Utopia came along, Mehul never gave a fluff about the earth guys particularly.

On warring v netting: even 20 min a day at home netting (making grabs etc) is still significantly less time and investment than warring, where it's not just attending warchats, but also being able to get online at a moment's notice (literally) 24/7 to stop your country being killed.
And that's before we get to the guys running the chats, picking targets, getting spy ops etc to make sure things are ready to go for that time when you're doing a KR.
a lot of that is admittedly FAR easier than it was in the day, due to the reduced player base, but still. It's also harder to coordinate fewer people spread across a fluff load of timezones, than having enough player base in a single timezone to run chats regularly. It can still be done, but requires effort.


Lastly, Paradigm last warred not that long back :P
Was just after we removed Doug from leadership over the sheer buildup of stuff that had gone on since the BlackHole affair.

Gonna be honest: Did enjoy taking the retals. Obviously, we reached out to your heads first, but, there is a certain enjoyment to that moment when you hit the send button and worry that you missed your numbers ever so slightly, and are going to bounce the retal lol
Didn't help that I'd had to burn 20 odd million jets breaking a suicider down the day before mind you :P