Originally
posted by
Watertowers:
synoder, just tell the damn truth and eat your unjustified arrogance. By the time the untags came last reset, everyone knew that your clan had lost the war.
There was always a suspicion I had that NBK were responsible for unleashing those untags on themselves.
That would make the loss less bitter and give stupid excuses for falure on the part of NBK. Instead of admitting defeat, they could cry wolf to the entire EE community of cheating and "dirty politics".
I have personally seen how vindictive and cowardly NBK is as a clan.
Originally
posted by
Watertowers:
Originally
posted by
cRaZyDaVe:
Mr. Watertowers, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your countries.
I personally dont mind voicing my suspicions. NBK has been relying on so much speculation, hearsay, and plain falsehood that it makes my suspicion sound like the words of Abraham Lincoln.
I, of course, represent no clan or organization in EE, which means I have much less vested interest in making any claims unless if I feel it could be the truth. And the possibility of BK unleashing the untags on themselves belongs in the category of "could be truth".
ok first on the subject of speculation. you speculate that we unleashed untags on ourselves? why the hell would we do that, what goal would we accomplish hitting ourselves with untagged restarts. if we had the numbers to create that many untags wouldn't we be better off turning them against SF under the NBK banner. hell we would have had SF outnumbered with that many countries. second some of those untags made the mistake of detagging/retagging SemperFi[the original true semperfi] during killruns. how could we give them SF's clan tag/pass? if we are capable of doing that then SF has a serious security leak. then llaar jumps in. due to our past dealings with llaar and lack of knowledge of the relation between llaar and SF, i can't stick the blame of their involvement in our war on semper. however, this is mere perception, llaar didn't jump in until we started to close the gap on killing against SF. at one point we were killing 2x as many countries per day then SF. then after he jumped in, i didn't see any public statement to llaar from Semper to stay out of our war. i thought i did see someone say something to the untags but i can't find the thread and can't remember who it was. anyway, nothing being said by SemperFi kinda paints the picture that SF, at the very least, did not mind trying to gangbang a crippled clan.
now on something a little more fact based. Negative, we did not unleash untags on ourselves. i admit that some of our action may be viewed negatively, but they have always been up front. we have attacked and warred clans before for real reason that many of you would agree on and occasionally some silly reasons, or for no more reason than they may give us a good fight, but we have always tried to be straight about it. we don't try to use deceptive tactics to rally the server.
last set SF offered us a pact and we denied it because we did not agree to its terms. they then warred us because we grabbed them like every other netting clan on the server, and they didn't like it. as dumb a reason as that is, it is still a reason they can war over. i have no problem with that. but i don't understand spreading rumors and lies about a clan just to gain favor with other clans. i don't see why you would try to war an already crippled clan that is still at warring and claim that you were trying to prove a point. must have been some point considering bring an entire clan to do what 1-man tags were already doing. i don't see why someone would recruit players and pact clans for one purpose then take actions that contradict that purpose. many of the clans we allied we pacted for the same reason we told them. we are looking for good police. we pretty much guaranteed them that we were warring. we didn't deceive them by lying about our intentions. i don't think we could have even if we wanted to, everyone knew our intentions. we don't lie our way out of a situation, we fight our way out, or spin our wheels trying. every post i have made relating to our position in that war stated that we were losing, we were crippled, we were weak, i have never claimed moral victory for NBK, at least not seriously. we fought hard, we never gave up, and for the most part we were on the losing side.
and the most important thing, which SemperFI is learning about right now, is that win or lose, close fight or complete ass reaming, we DO NOT give up, we DO NOT stop restarting, we DO NOT stop attacking, we DO NOT stop walling [smiles at K4F] until the war is done. did i mention we don't give up?
hope to see a great and straight up war with you guys and gals in Semper and best of luck with you netting. :P
