I don't think he even got out of protection.

fluff is coming.

I'm not sure what flavour it was. He ate it all.

Derrick ate my ice cream.

It just looks urm... different?

Where do I apply?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6xiFDAIwy8

Great video for all you kids.

That I like Ice Cream? And you should to. Everyone should like Ice Cream, even if it isn't Oreo flavoured.

nobody said we were the first, nobody thinks we will be the last. Nobody said we were the best or the worst. Nobody said it would be hard, or that we found it easy. Nobody involved said we were suiciding. We were fighting a war. Using tactics and methods allowed within the game rules and within our means given our numbers.

"Guerrilla warfare is a form of irregular warfare in which a small group of combatants, such as paramilitary personnel, armed civilians, or irregulars, use military tactics including ambushes, sabotage, raids, petty warfare, hit-and-run tactics, and mobility to fight a larger and less-mobile traditional military."

If all we can do as a small group of friends is to land grab / chem / AB / spy op countries with low defence etc... then that is within the game rules and code, a valid way to fight a war. Not to suicide.... I'd have preferred to stay alive both times... however you chose to use traditional warfare tactics to kill me. Fair game. No regrets. Its war.

Don't turn it into something its not.

Change your attitudes, change the game, make it better, make it fun again.

At no point did I pretend to be a bot this reset. I attacked early on to demonstrate I wasn't a bot. I even created a single country tag for my first country. So yeah, I did everything possible to indicate I was not a bot :) But yeah, you kinda missed the point... I wasnt actually upset / pissed off at how I was treated as a single country...

Hello,

My name is Kelton and I love Oreo Ice Cream.

I also like many other flavours. I dont like Praline Ice Cream.

This reset this game has made me want to quit. With LCN gone, I decided to play untagged.

I couldnt decided where to play that I could also call home.

However I've been treated like absolute fluff by players of this game. I've been grabbed multiple times - and then had retals retaled because "Im not allowed to retal as I am untagged". I've been killed twice now, because I've grabbed a lot of land from fat people with low defense. I also nuked someone to half their land - after he wouldnt stop grabbing me.

Its just not fun anymore. Why can't this game just protect us people who choose not to play within the expected norms (ie join LaF).

This game has a massive choice to make going forward. Its having a massive identity crisis... is it a PVP game or is it a PVE game.

Playing PVP games over the last 20+ years I have learnt one thing... the bigger the investment the more exciting it gets when something does happen. Games that have no risk to the time spent playing it offer very little in return. It sure does make you annoyed with yourself when you do loose - but coming back and inflicting damage on someone else always makes it better.

The whinging in this game is unbearable. Just because a group of players decided to cause some havoc within the rules. Upsetting the expected norms of this game. Injecting some unexpected excitement into the game.

The game is dieing not because we killed someone, not because we reacked so many countries and wasted peoples investment in their country. No, the game is like it is because of what the current player base has made of it. Pish one-sided wars, a netting clan nobody is allowed to touch. A reliance on bots that don't fight back. People stuck in their ways and unable to see what has happened to their game.

It needs change. It needs something to happen differently in order to grow its player base and become a more exciting game.

I think back to my original time playing. Even back then we mistakenly called anyone doing anything diffent a suicider. I was wrong to label them that. They played the game how they wanted to. We killed countries that grabbed us too much - did we suicide on them? NO... because we were an alliance, so what we did was all proper.... why does the act of decalring war and having a tag make such a difference?

Im lost.

The game has all these features in the code for a reason. It's to allow you to make a choice... to discover missiles... to research SDI... to AB someone with no tanks, to poisoning food supplies. Its all in the code. Yet if a group of people want to use their missiles, to use their jets - to select war room and grab someone... its now somehow wrong? Its somehow ruining the game and driving people away?

No. Your attitude is driving people away.

I can run a CI next reset and grab anyone in the game no matter what defence you get. I probably wont - but anyone else could do the same. You can choose to have no defence - or to at least make it hard and costly to grab you. Its your choice, but its my choice if I want to make the effort. But isnt that expectation, anticipation, the unknown, at least the slightest bit exciting?

Or would you all prefer to know that nobody will attack you this next reset. To know you can grab bots as much as you like, and nobody will ever take that land off you? You can net all you like, you can try and beat the maths and get a new NW record... but there will be no risk... and very little reward.

Maybe the game does need to change. Maybe the PVPers need an alliance-like server, maybe the PVE's need a server that protects them entirely from real people. But I think making that split would actually kill the entire game.


I say leave the game as it is (although restart rules do need to change), however your attitudes and how the game is played need to change if its ever going to attract new players.

I have been Kelton. And I love Ice Cream. And I've actually had the most exciting reset of Earth ever.

Sure. Terms?

Can I get a pact next reset?

Thankyou.

What? LCN is gone? Thought it was quiet on the forums. I've been waiting for someone to post the tag info up before coming out of protection.

Maybe staying hidden as 0cs would have been a better idea for everyone... most people that went public got farmed heavily.


Least I got a kill with 0cs :)

Thanks Pang.

Confirmed.

Back to sleep old man, its not time for your meds yet.

Maybe our 30 year reunion? Some of us might still be able to type then.

Couldn't have confirmed it any better myself.

OK, I lied. I could have, but thanks for your effort.

Any time you want Osie, I'll always be around if you need your Nostra touched :P

Confirmed.

The End.

Congratulations. You have been part of La Cosa Nostra’s 11th Best Reset Ever.
Many of us did not know what to expect when we came back into this game. It’s certainly changed a fair bit from the game I remember, but I personally have enjoyed this reset and plan on maybe playing another couple.
But for LCN the curtains are coming down on almost 20 years of history. Thanks to everyone that came back, and thanks to the guys that organised it all. Amazed so many of us played.
I was very much expecting a war of some kind this reset, it might have been good fun, but I doubt most of us would have had the time to do one justice, so we go out with a peaceful net gaining reset.
The best part of this game, as it was back when I played last, is the social side of the game. Its been great chatting away in our Facebook group and on the forums. I can confirm that I have even semi-enjoyed talking to you lot on Alliance Talk.
I was going to make a list of 11th best awards for everyone, but I ran out of time. Besides, I don’t think that any of the wars or events of the reset would be worthy of being ranked 11th!

Congrats to whoever wins TNW / ANW.

Its been awesome fun, but That’s All Folks. 11th Place is forever ours. Hands off, even if we aren’t around.

Kelton,
11th Best Known President of LCN, Retired.

0cs or bust (#71)

I'm in. I'll post up country name soon.

Since I started playing Express the average skill level dropped significantly. I'll maybe leave and let you all get back to normal. :)

Just have to confirm another 4932 posts to join this "club"

Confirmed.

Confirmed.

Rigor Mortis is recruiting. PM me for the application form.

Confirmed.

Seems to be normalising a bit now... still more Def being bought just at more normal prices... which you might expect as the bots approach the DPA targets?

He is quite slow.

Found it a bit too fast.


Could we get a server where you get 1 turn per day and it lasts for a 20 years?

Confirmed.

He likes me. But only on a Friday.

Confirmed.

Confirmed.

You make me feel sad. You ruin every bit of fun I have ever had.

Fail.

This game has gone downhill since LCN came back. Its like the 11th best earth 2025 game now.

What? They let the cheaters back in?

So if LCN hit Laf while Laf is policing SoL, can I take a retal on myself?

11th Best war dec this reset. Well done.

When you have to respond to your own multies on AT :(


osloos.

Sorry, I would respond but I am busy playing the other 38 countries.

Yes, we are. Now leave me alone to cry in the corner.

Use of hashtags is banned. Please refrain from using them in LCNs presence.

Confirmed.

Confirmed.