ahh Kingstar bringing up the good ole days. Lets see, wow, that was what, back in 01 or 02 King? I could probally bust out my old comp and get some oldtime warstats from back then too, but that would take too much work. IF I recall, we beat Euro pretty solidly, we were around 35 members to thier 80-90, but they had alot of inactives/noobs if I recall. They didn't have alot of staying power. Next set was svea Rike or something, both of us had around 30 ish members, netters vs fighters, and I think we won by wearing them down. Wasn't considered the best pound for pound alliance king. It was one of the best under 40 member alliances.

SS may have just been a FA contact from somewhere else.

IT's been like 5 years or so

I was thinking silent squirl.

hrm did I train SS in FA?

Ok my memory is a bit foggy, but I'll see what I can remember. Heck I forgot about Reborn till reading this post.

From memory, Wog came from IX(know they were around before, but no clue as the history there. From IX, Lust(huge FS and destroyed the ELY/ICN duo(had to add that in for fun)) then we went to Rage. Durring Rage, A decent amount started their breaks from the game. At this point, some stayed in Rage(think I did) and some moved to Red(1 reset or 2) Those in Red I beleive then either went back to Rage for a set or 2, or went to LAF. Then Alena promised to help shini and me with Reborn, but didn't:P And I don't remember how long we were around before we went to Omega. There a while, and I think that is when I retired. If I remember right, Deity said that they went to rival and Rage, but can't remember.

PimpD I just got a text from like a month or 2 ago. I should text him and see whats up, maybe he could wrangle in the Vegas crew...

Who's SS?

I remember dl and GO

you certainly know the first way to get a war started...

I'm not sure if I was ever "voted" in :(

I was kinda a wogger:P

Is there much land exchange anymore with large alliances? There is what, about 10 alliances over 30 members? According to what I've read, there are 3 warring alliances, which would then lead to 7 netters/whatever happens alliances. Those 3 alliances constantly fighting each other because they just attack eachother over and over, would get boring. Playing in an alliance game always runs the risk of going to war. it's going to always happen, and as Dragon posted, netters pact out so they can't fight, so what really is the point in pacting with them. Sure they can FA you, but if you need the brute force, they aren't there.
Right now, the problem is just that there is limited #'s to do anything without ticking off someone. Which of course is something I like:P

I'm in 1000% agreement with ruth. No suprise there though:P

They are now going to give out suspensions I heard for those hits. I hope though they they are cautious with how they do it. Some of the hits are just horrid, but not all are purpousful, and if tacklers get too cautious on how to hit because of being afraid of being suspended, that could get bad.

Any hit leading with the crown of the helmet though is just plain stupid. Anyone who's played the game knows that you never drop your head down to make a hit/tackle.

NO

*not omega*

Dragonlance, one of the reasons for not raising minimum wage, is it has a waterfall effect. If the min wage is increased, you find that prices on things will go up. People who made a few bucks more then min wage, are now right at the min wage lvl, because when min wage goes up, thier salary stays the same. So those just making min wage do get an increase, but overall thier spending is increased too. and it hurts the people who make just a bit more.

As far as tipping goes, I see alot where parties larger then 8 get a 15% gratitude alot of the time, and the main reason for that is because a party that large takes more time to deal with then the normal smaller size party. The flip side of that is, if they take the 15% out, I won't tip any more then that, but, if I had a party of 8 and the server was really good, I may have tipped 20% instead, so they can loose out big on that.

I will almost alwasy leave something for a tip. Tips say alot about how a server has done. The only time I didn't leave a tip was when a waitress did a really bad job, and had to call a manager to fix our issues. Then I asked the waitress where the manager was, and gave the manager the $1 tip for fixing the issues, and said our waitress didn't even deserve this and it was for him.

There wasn't an FFA though pang till down the line some, and limited and EC was just ewe.

I wasn't saying that there are too many servers here:P I was saying seperating netting alliances to one, and warring ones to another was not good:P

I've read your last post pang, My view is a wacky one of someone who went one way pulled a 180, and went another. You know me from back in the day, I could go all over the place in a matter of a couple sentences. Nothings changed. Let me try going at this at a better clip, and in a straight line:P

And first, I want to say this is not directed at anyone in particular, or any clan inparticular, but if you feel offended by it, then you are probally a target of this post inderectly:P\

Seperate servers is horrible idea:P In my opinion one of the things that was bad for earth 2025 to start with was more servers added. I beleive when we had alot of newer players(and multi's I know) There was 1a 1b and tourny. Throw the new players into allinace, let them get recuirted up, and go from there.

What my comment about netters/fighters was, Somewhere someone posted if you don't like getting farmed or something, go to a solo server or some crap. What I am saying, is if you dont' like to get get into a war, or have a chance at war, don't play in an alliance. Wars are part of the game. Simply put.

IF alliance leadership is not that great right now where Fighting alliances don't think that they can survive against each other, then they will go pick on someone smaller, or who isn't a "warring allaince". It's how weakend, no too harsh of a word. It's how the new generation leadership works From what I've seen. If there is a chance to fail, do not attempt. Horrible way to go about things, but at least you can pat yourself on the back I guess...

Pang I'm not defending either side either:P I'm a trouble maker.

Personally, I know nothing of politics now, but my guess would be the war alliances set up thier pacts so they can't war eachother, because they are afraid to lose.

They war a netter, and when they get an ally called in, they call someone else in, instead of dealing with it themselves. True war alliances could deal with a 2:1 advantage. Especially with a 120/120 FS advantage.

I went all over the place and cant' even remember the point, so I'll stop here for now

Now, this will probally be found as offensive to alot of people here, but the people who remember me will also know that I don't care:)

What pang is saying, goes into the theory of alot of the "new generation leadership" that is around now that calls the shots looks for the more easy victory. You started seeing it a little before I retired, and from reading these posts, it seems to have gotten worse. Now I'm not saying all you are, so dont' go there, but if you get offended by that, I probally mean you:)

From what I see in this game right now, There is really no big reason to war anymore.

Most allainces do land:land it seems
Some run on just all explore and retalers

The only reason I can see a war starting is someone picking a fight, or an allaince farming a smaller allaince. I know netting allainces did that in the past, and if they thought the allaince was no real threat to thier netting set, they didnt' care. Ohh no, that allaince will kill off a few of our smaller countries, Ok ANW goes up.

I know nothing of the political side of things here as I've been gone too long. But even though people change, the way the game is played or enjoyed doesn't change much.

But I got off track, The leadership nowadays goes after netters instead of war allainces you say, and now that I rethink it and type this out, I'll change my mind a bit. have you looked at the top 25 alliance list? There isn't 40 alliances to chose from right now, and this is a war game. I think someone stated earlier, if you don't like getting farmed, join a better allinace. IF you don't like fighting, Don't join an allinace game.

This post goes all over the place, probally makes little sense, and is not spell check approved

what you talking bout thunder? In my back speach I even commented about the bats, which your the only one whom still remembers that:P

Pluss I have no Instant messangers:P

Shini, that depended on our plans:P if we wanted to net a set, I could accomplish that.... if I also wanted to:P

I said it back in the day, and I haven't changed my opinion, but when landgrabing between real alliances because basically useless do to land:land, the game became pointles because you then only had the Untagged/multi's that were available to be hit, which drove the legit new players away, and multi's would suicide more.

It was the best way for me to pick a fight too:P

I use to

Finaly an intersting post

Did they do bad things to me servant?

Baby Face was his brother not blue you idjit!

HI Kingstar again

Thanks De1i.

My memory is getting very bad as I get older.

Before anythyhig else build 100 CS's, then full explore, and build 100 more

by then you'll have enough money to buy 200 troops and double your army

Rage is one of my 10 home away from homes

Dragonlance is mean!

How wierd!

I'm starting to loose things to make up to say:(

I know both of you!

Need more familiar names on here

what was his name

Pretty sure at one time I rated as worst FA:P

I was a nub when you were just a sparkle in someone's eye.

Feiry CIDE doesn't remember me:P

Definatly counts as a perk

HRM BF with no SDI.... THings never do change do they

Hrm what are the new perks? Did I miss something? hehe

I'm possitive patty! Remember what STD stood for back in the day?

Slayer typing disease!

Kingstar- STD's lol It's funny cause I was sending pm's to someone here and I was like, I hate this damn spellcheck, all these red lines, and I just don't want to go back and fix them! I tried to do better here on the boards, and all, plus I haven't posted intoxicated yet, so that probally helsps.

Detmer's image of deity is the exact way that I picture him too, just from the convo's we've had.

Can someone tell me why in a post I clearly state I hate netting, all these netting alliance come out to recruit? I mean seriously, have any of you looked at a country I've ran? Seriously!

Pang- Glad to see someone reads the whole post:P

Regarding all Ely posts,

26k FS that makes a 2-3 set alliance live in infamy... kinda. Still brings a smile to the face. IF marshal's there, and it's the same one I'm thinking of back from the day, then ely can't be horrid at least :P

Shini- You still in Omega? Any other woggers around there? I think I saw SF in rage?

Patty/Ruthie- Hiya. How you two been?

Actually Angle, NoN is home:)

LS
Former lots of stuff that I don't want to repeat,
CUrrently horrible netgainer, so no more netgaining recruitments!

Ohh and Omega you all are great, but I've have other places to visit and try.

Servant, You do know that you could regret saying that:P You do remember some of the stunts in the past I have pulled from boredom? NOt saying that will happen, but Highly doubt is strong words:P

Maybe I'd be flattered!

Just to ease the confusion, I currently do have a home! That is till they decide my networth sucks too much and boots me:)

Nothing personal, but just from my memory and time I played, Me and ely were not friends:P

Detmer, I wasn't creeped out in the least.

Hey just wanted to say hi, someone on facebook bugged me enough to get me to try earth one more time, and I figured I'd stop by here to see what old faces are still around, and see what's changed. I see RD is back, SOL seems to be top, and Omega keeps on trucking. Fun stuff. What else is new?

Ohh and apparently I'm in a netting place, so thier AVN is gonna be horrible thanks to me, but don't have time for that war thingy.

LS

In the spirit of the thread, I'd spend nothing for turns durring a netting set, cause I hate netting as is. But, in a war set, durring a FS, $5 a pop for a turn may make me think about it.

Speaking of stupid thunder, I haven't seen any bats lately!

ohh and <3 RD.

I figured I'd add another.

Too many new names here, not enough old ones:(

I Like Omega. Shini is 3D back again?

Servant smells funky