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sinistril:
Well, mob already told me he was messing with me and was thinking about killing me, which definitely makes the scenario different for me yeah.
Hostilities were not ended on both sides between us and zach. The last attack was 5 days before because either he didn't retag, leave protection or we hadn't found him yet. He suicided netters that would have had top 5 finishes over less than the exchange with mob and us. Why would hostilities be over? You had a discussion with Zach assuming we had no problems with him anymore. Like.. I didn't even believe you guys would do something like that when I heard it. Self-deleting doesn't change the fact that he ruined people's sets. If it would have been the next set you accepted him, I'd understand but 5 days after he suicided us....unless the rumors I've heard are true about why he really did it. Either way, simply talking it out doesn't seem to be an option. Seems to me you'd have to send higher reps than you guys could afford for this one.
Plus, your member spent half of last set saying how it'd be war this set and he'd hit IMP, there might have even been a couple posts on forums about it, I can't remember. Not exactly a thing to be saying about allies.
And other people have other reasons to. IDK. I didn't even want to play this set. I was gonna take a break for a few sets from FFA and I had even less interest in warring LoC because like I said, I like most people in LoC and I'm glad we got to play peacefully for the last year, but I felt provoked to play. IMP may look bad to you, LoC looks bad to us right now. I don't think our points of view will really change on that matter.
Anyways, I'll stop posting here. Just wanted to provide a little insight into why I am fighting (in other words, not to have a fun war). These are personal reasons, not necessarily IMPs reasons as that is Prime's call and more went into the decision than what I listed. I don't want to create grudges as I wasn't planning to play FFA next set unless there is a reason for me to but I guess with all the salt I'm getting we'll see.
Cant we all just get along ?
This has gotta be like your parents fighting. Don't worry, I don't think we're getting a divorce. Go take a top 10 spot from ICD, I made a bet on you.
I am not out to defend Zack's actions in suiciding IMP, or anyone suiciding anyone. To be very explicit I don't condone suiciding. However, I was approached, I had a conversation and set some guidelines that were clear. Zack agreed and we took him on, not to protect him, but to gain another active player in our tag. Zack, I and LoC took what we felt was in the best interest of LoC, and server politics. Although I saw it as the hostilities had ended, and the situation was resolved, I had nothing to hide and even voluntarily mentioned in a conversation with Prime. If I was trying to be deceitful or hide him I wouldn't have volunteered this information. Now if this is the only fault you can find, we could have discussed a solution, but no solution other then your own was offered. In addition, I have no problem taking full accountability into this situation. I get that he suicided you guys and you already wiped the floor with him, what else are you after?! Sounds like to me if we discussed options, IMP could have come out on top with reps(even if not worth what you lost), rather then spending more resources to war. Outside looking in you were after setting an example and you already did, furthermore, I took a player out of the suicider pool and took them under LoC's wing, making it our problem, your welcome. I spoke clear intentions to Prime and even assured him that Zack was not going to be his problem and even offered to take care of any problem that may arise. I also made it clear to Zack that if he did not abide by the rules discussed that we would take him our personally.
Now as to mob's actions, I cannot speak to, and I am frankly shocked by your words. He claims he didn't say it, but its mob, and sometimes he says stupid fluff, but he's my guy and I've got his back. Sin you were LoC, and LoC had your back, and we would still likely have your back, do you really think I would willingly condone an attack against you? Seriously, I am shocked that you really think that of me, but trust me when I say, I won't lose any sleep over it.
Beyond the Zack situation, IMP started the hostilities with LoC, IMP was being deceitful and LoC retaliated appropriately per publically accepted policy. Prime/FA's involvement was non-existent, IMP members RoR'ed, without knowing would be my guess, all because the situation was not handled through an FA as it should have been. When Prime and I finally got together the situation was already out of hand, and should have had more conversation regarding it. After Prime and I's last conversation last set he said he would get back to me regarding IMPs decision and he did not. I requested pacts, sent PMs to Prime, after the new set, after close to 2 weeks and several messages later between EE/IRC I finally got a response. A response riddled with excuses and deceit regarding IMPs intentions, although I was clear and honest in my intentions and stuck to them.
Now also let's not forget that bomber detagged IMP last set and suicided LoC. Yet another case scenario of IMPs deceit and lies. So again, I want to challenge who treated their ally poorly, I hope that from all my facts that you can agree that IMP is in the wrong here.
