Verified:

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Jan 3rd 2014, 20:42:33

Originally posted by Pride:
Originally posted by MauricXe:
the usual when you don't have a sufficient response.

So if it's just the same as what SoF did (and it's not), then what does that mean for MD/SoL? I don't see any crying from SoF. All I see is mocking your moral high ground.


Explain how it's not the same?


All of this is missing the point. Even if it is the same, what does that say about the moral police from MD/SoL?

But I will answer your question.

I don't see any comparison to SoL with the following:
SoF was having a reunion set.
70% of SoF alliance were pure netters.
SoF made it very clear that they intended to split the tags and find an opponent of suitable size. SoF was looking for a fair war....you know that thing people say SoF doesn't do.


LaF made it very clear that they would hit if MD made a move against the mostly netting SoF. SoL was not netting, they were wargaining, and there was never an explicit warning from MD to SoF (afaik) that they would break up an even war between SoF/Rival - SoL/LCN.

Edited By: MauricXe on Jan 3rd 2014, 20:44:51

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Jan 3rd 2014, 18:16:38

mdevol reminds of a little boy that wants to so desperately sit at the adults table. He's got his shiny new pair of leader boots and wants all of the attention and respect from the rest of the big boys. Xyle is a meanie.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Jan 3rd 2014, 18:14:24

the usual when you don't have a sufficient response.

So if it's just the same as what SoF did (and it's not), then what does that mean for MD/SoL? I don't see any crying from SoF. All I see is mocking your moral high ground.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Jan 3rd 2014, 8:50:52

What i learned most from this thread (so far) is that Servant is severely uniformed. He forms strong opinions and spins a beautiful story, brings his alliance to war, and stands in opposition of SoF....but does it on what I'm going to assume is extremely biased second hand accounts.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Jan 3rd 2014, 7:42:58

Fuji:

I've been told that SoF needs to stop the "multi set" wars i.e. wars caused by conflicts in previous sets. Perhaps that's the wrong definition but it is what I meant. Carrying over grievances is allegedly bad for the game. But everyone can do it except for SoF.

As for your second paragraph, read what I said very closely. The issue is hypocrisy by the "morally superior" SOL/MD/etc. not if SoF is right or wrong. To answer your objection, which i sorta did before you even posted, SoF doesn't run from the things it did. They own up to the gangbangs and "grudge wars". The "whining" is mistaken for pointing out the hypocrisy.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Jan 3rd 2014, 4:53:12

We never spoke in game and I don't know what "intel" you are talking about.
Have fun with him iscode.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Jan 3rd 2014, 4:07:11

Originally posted by mdevol:
The question is not pointless.

It is a simple question to answer. Hell he could even just agree with flamey and it would end.

And this question is just as simple as iScodes question to maki in his thread is it not?


What iscode does and Sov does or doesn't do have no bearing on each other.

the problem here is that you are a troll that dodges questions. Sov has no time for you.

Have a nice day.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Jan 3rd 2014, 4:06:34

Originally posted by Red X:
I think its funny. Whenever someone is outnumbered they cry about the numbers....sets restart you guys know that right. also, donny join TIE we have cookies.


SoF ain't crying or whining. SoFFer are only pointing out the hypocrisy. SoL/MD/LCN like to claim grudge wars and gangbangs are ruining this game....so they take the moral high ground by partaking in said tactics. Sounds like a good plan.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Jan 3rd 2014, 3:49:17

mdevol insists that Sov answers his pointless question when just a few sets ago he couldn't explain how much FA sent to Rival via their tech pacts from RD. No mdevol, Sov doesn't have to answer trolls.

I can't believe Billy took the spy stuff so seriously lol

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Jan 2nd 2014, 17:47:02

Donny why u leave? we miss u!...and ur spy brother :)

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Jan 2nd 2014, 17:39:13

Originally posted by XiQter MD:
Originally posted by Sov:

A load of bullsh-t


"Whilst most Alliances on here will preach that we are bullies and we are destroying the game, I will argue that no Alliance has worked as much with other Alliances to assist them in building up, no other Alliance on this server has worked more to mediate disputes between other Alliances and no other Alliance has worked harder to bring players into this game as we have."

This might be the best one!

...one thing is true tho, SoF and MD relations are pretty bad, i give you credits for atleast making one true fact!

xoxo Sov, hope you are having a nice holiday!



I was amused with this post and the few others that addressed Sov's posting.

There wasn't any dispute of the argument presented by Sov's case against SoF being a bully (examples are the political dealings with other alliances). Curious given that SoF is still chided for it in this thread.

Instead of attacking the strongest points of his arguments, his detractors throw their lot in with the weakest argument i.e. that Sov "helped build other alliances" and that he "mediated" between alliances. We can dispute all day about how much, how effective, and to what end the help Sov gave other alliances. Does it really matter? What matters most is how he has pulled SoF in relation to other alliances. On the charge of being a bully, I think Sov defended SoF rather well. The lack of good counter arguments says a lot. That in itself doesn't mean Sov is right but I find it odd our favorite trolls didn't try spinning any of it.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 31st 2013, 4:47:35

Originally posted by Baz:
Originally posted by MauricXe:
By....staging a gangbang instead of fighting an even war?

got it


Coming from a SoF'er this is hilarious. :)


how so? You've never asked me for my opinion. Moreover, I'm not the one that made a post saying "SoL is preventing gangbangs....." whilst gangbanging their way out of an even war.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 30th 2013, 23:58:03

By....staging a gangbang instead of fighting an even war?

got it

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 30th 2013, 19:05:57

Originally posted by Atryn:
Originally posted by MauricXe:
Is anyone buying this nonsense that SoL was netting?

But yet, knowing that war is a certainty, they decided to net? Either their war department and leadership are completely incompetent or they are full of fluff.


Wow, you cannot get this can you?

intent -> netting
practice -> forced to war prep by SoF's words/actions

If I am reading Maki correctly, SOL planned to net - unless they couldn't due to allies calling them or being hit.

Of course it is prudent to prep if you see something coming. But it doesn't mean you wanted war.


I see you bought into their fluff.

The problem here is that they set the table for war. They didn't accept SoF's pacts and they knew LCN's plans. However, they want us to believe they "had netting start ups" that "got forced into converting to semi war/net strategies." Are we really supposed to believe that an SoL that believes Xyle is a war monger could not foresee war coming? Moreover, SoF FSd a day ago....aponic hasn't been around for about two weeks. I have no sympathy for them allegedly not being fully war prepped. I think the real problem is that they underestimated SoF and overestimated themselves.

What kind of netting alliance leaves their #1 enemy unpacted whilst believing their #1 enemy is run by a vindictive war-monger (and let's not forget what went down between their FDPs)? At best, they are just incompetent.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 30th 2013, 18:00:31

Is anyone buying this nonsense that SoL was netting?

If SoL truly believed that aponic threatened them, and only because the war monger and control freak Xyle told him to, then shouldn't they have prepared? They left SoF unpacted, they knew their FDP LCN would hit SoF's FDP, and they felt 'threatened' by SoF, and they told SoF they would be watching and waiting for them to make a move. I thought their amazing war general, mdevol beat SoF 1v1 ffs, would have had his alliance prepared for war. Keep in mind, aponic hasn't been around for about 2 weeks so this isn't short notice wrt the threats.

But yet, knowing that war is a certainty, they decided to net? Either their war department and leadership are completely incompetent or they are full of fluff.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 30th 2013, 17:33:42

Originally posted by Atryn:


MD was FS'd by SoF while netting during our 75th.

I'm sure you could re-open a can of worms as to why, but you asked for an example so... there ya go.


meh that's not what Pride said sometime ago on AT.

I should have taken a screenshot. Galleri might remember that post too.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 30th 2013, 17:04:25

Originally posted by Makinso:
Dear scode.

Assumptions and assumptions is all you can make. And by your logic SoF was a worse off warring tag to SOL due to calling in laf last set?

You presume a lot of things based on knowledge you do not have because you've not been told.
So yes it's a troll as your long post is based on no facts just assumptions and self rationalized facts.

The people that needed to know were told. You were not one of them as you prove yourself a troll once again.


You can't seriously be comparing the war of this set with what happened last set right? The two aren't the same as the numbers aren't even close. SoF faced greater odds.

I find it odd that you guys are more than willing to share specific information that helps your cause and/or hurts SoF but now, conveniently, these matters are only for "people that needed to know". You have your esteemed war leader sharing conversations with apo and yet there is still "sacred" information.

Edited By: MauricXe on Dec 30th 2013, 17:46:02

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 30th 2013, 3:34:23

Originally posted by galleri:
Originally posted by Makinso:
I think a day or 4 -5 ago when we told everyone to start buying SDI/oil/warfare and to boost SPALS. Just right before Xmas.


So 4 to 5 days ago you suddenly felt threatened by Aponic's chats?
Aponic has been on vacation since around the 15th of December in South America.


ooops

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 30th 2013, 3:31:40

Originally posted by Pang:
the issue with this server has never really been the mechanics by themselves, it's mainly been the community and the goal of trying to ruin your opponent moreso than win a meaningful victory for your members. if you want to blame someone, don't blame qz, blame all the alliance leaders in this server -- in every major alliance across the duration of this server's existence (going back to EC) -- who subscribe to fluffty politics, grudge wars and the concept of trying to demoralize your opponent "to stop future wars". it's all bullfluff and made a lot of good players leave. and THAT drove any changes that were made. the only alliances that tried to step up and take the high road were railroaded for it.


you know what else does that? Mass deleting an alliance because a few members messed up.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 30th 2013, 2:02:20

I'll always love you

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 30th 2013, 2:00:09

Red X is greedy

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 30th 2013, 0:39:10

Originally posted by Colonel Chaos:
Spying you down? I was #26 and I did have several retals to take, and I always spy target and their defensive allies. SoF had quite a few caught ops over the same period. Using that as an excuse is just silly.

We had 2-3 go on vacation prior to the fs due to, well... vacation. Nice try though. I look forward to the fight.. netting was getting a little old.



No one said those 2-3 were running away from the FS lol

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 30th 2013, 0:02:23

SoF sux. I expect them to lose within 72hrs.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 24th 2013, 18:41:00

Enter your post

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 16th 2013, 15:06:22

Enter your post

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 10th 2013, 12:20:41

join SoF....best netters on the server

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Dec 8th 2013, 22:00:18

this thread made me lol

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Nov 13th 2013, 19:55:31

Nobody cares what you think Boltar.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Nov 13th 2013, 19:54:54

I've already addressed the FS this set.

I love when the MD FS on SoF is brought up. It's as if we didn't tell you what would happen if you FSd our netters. That's okay, we can pretend it never happened.

As for the rest of what you said, I'll just summarize my position with this:

There sounds like a disconnect between some of the members in MD/SoL/Evo/etc and some of your "power players"/leaders.

Anyhoot, you ladies can have the last word. some of you have genuine different perspectives on what occurred, and the rest of you are just disingenuous. no use trying to convince either.

Edited By: MauricXe on Nov 13th 2013, 19:58:10
See Original Post

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Nov 13th 2013, 19:15:35

Rival and SoF didn't hold joint WCs until much much later (after both alliances were pretty much toast) so I wouldn't count SoF/Rival as one side @ Kalick.

SoF vs MD/SoL
MD/SoL vs Rival
Rival/RD vs Evo/PDM/(forgot the other one if there was another)

But you would be correct. Part of Rival's tactics had to do with RD. That plan fell through and well....you saw what happened.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Nov 13th 2013, 14:42:34

Are you asking me if I think MD/SoL had the advantage in their war with SoF? Well....yea. That's generally what happens when you have more turns at your disposal.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Nov 13th 2013, 14:39:07

LaF surrenders to rage

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Nov 13th 2013, 14:36:19

Originally posted by Fuji:

It was actually 90 vs 115 :P And you guys had no problem attacking with a 25+ country advantage. All we did was turn it around and take our own. That's not even taking into account our attack on Rival, your FA or LaF crushing SoL. But why let facts get in the way of bullfluff? :)


Refer to my most recent response to Alin.
The setup of the war was intended. SoF never meant for the war to be MD vs SoF (90vs60 or what not). SoF always assumed SoL would come to help you.

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Nov 13th 2013, 14:32:44

Originally posted by Alin:


How can you mention only a stupid: "120 : 90" when Laf basically took out Sol and MD/Sol did numerous kill-runs on Rival while Sof was at it`s strength. Not to mention some FA packages ...

I am the one that should pretend it wasn't even - not you!!!

The real truth is you were so sustained by allies in the past that you actually forgot how to fight a war on your own. You were bellow average on all the levels.



sigh, it seems as if whenever a war occurs the other side has to play revision history.

SoF took the brunt of the war effort from SoL/MD for about a week.

There was no massive FA initiative to SoF. There were a few packages received, some to a few wallers, but nowhere near a massive FA effort.

By the time LaF entered to take on SoL, SoF was already down to about 5 "big" originals.

MD/SoL's efforts vs. Rival was a minor distraction given the size of Rival compared to MD/SoL, Rivals other opponents hitting them, and Rivals lack of hitting back.

Edited By: MauricXe on Nov 13th 2013, 14:40:04
See Original Post

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Nov 13th 2013, 14:26:52

Originally posted by Pride:
Originally posted by MauricXe:
Originally posted by Academus:
SoF having hiding behind laf for a number of sets now. They were always gonna lose on their own in an even war.


its great to see.


Even is 120+vs90 ;)


Cry, we enjoy your tears.


nobody is crying lmao

You guys won the set. For obvious reasons we need not state but enjoy it. Your record is now like 1-10 lol

Edited By: MauricXe on Nov 13th 2013, 14:40:49
See Original Post

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Nov 13th 2013, 14:24:01

at least u cast me as a black baby lol

however, Task should have been a tranny

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Nov 11th 2013, 14:26:01

Originally posted by Academus:
SoF having hiding behind laf for a number of sets now. They were always gonna lose on their own in an even war.


its great to see.


Even is 120+vs90 ;)

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Nov 11th 2013, 14:25:19

Originally posted by galleri:
you swallow!


SoF both swallows and sux

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Nov 8th 2013, 14:46:13

SoF sux

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Oct 30th 2013, 18:49:16

Originally posted by sky3litez:
Your country was destroyed because it was deleted for rules violations.


it's funny cause ur name is sky3litez

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Oct 30th 2013, 18:48:30

Detah to SoF!

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Oct 30th 2013, 18:45:44

Originally posted by galleri:
lmao .... iMag has polluted the ranks??? So they have me? OK.
Then let's talk about MD...they have 3 ex iMag players..... including in leadership.
Once again Servant running his mouth about fluff he has no clue about.
Good try Servant, Good try. This is officially one of your worst Alliance Rankings ever, due to your intellectual statements and failure to research anything.


iMag in MD? So does MD move down?

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Oct 28th 2013, 14:23:31

Originally posted by Vic:
also, with membership numbers still in deep decline, do you expect to field an alliance next set? rd would be glad to take you!

thank you in advance!


Tis all SoF's fault!

Death to SoF!

Edited By: MauricXe on Oct 28th 2013, 14:25:31
See Original Post

MauricXe Game profile

Member
576

Oct 27th 2013, 5:24:54

die SoF!