You guys see what happens when you leave food out?

10 days later and nothing? Ok then. Just checking.

I was trying to message someone in another tourney game and picked you by mistake because the mod message system for tourney is screwy and not setup to correctly message all 3 games. Disregard.

Perhaps it's to prevent multiple reports but I do think it's odd that it's auto-deleted from the player inbox.

Can I occasionally abbreviate it as ASS?



Are you not in support of players on non-clan solo servers being deleted for coordination/collusion? There is no real ingame mechanism to stop this occasional problem, and the moderators essentially do the same thing on those servers that took place here as part of SOTS rule enforcement.



I'd say this is unlikely to happen. Having just one person presents a clear access problem potentially, limiting oversight. Plus, I'd really rather not be without any assistance. Additionally, Martian has access to mod all game servers being in an elevated mod position. We have two more mods with oversight of Team but I honestly couldn't say much offhand about their experience here as players. I will say I trust their judgement and wouldn't really entertain the idea to remove their access.

If a constructive discussion can take place on the topic of the old Spirit of the Rules. Start a new topic here or feel free to necro the thread below that I've included from what seems to be the last real (but small) discussion on it. As the players, you should have a say in such changes and I support the open discussion, feedback, complaints, etc. so long as they aren't out of line and add value.

I don't think (and admins have said such on other topics) that creating new servers is unlikely for a few reasons, and turning Team into a sort-of Alliance2 is essentially the same thing. It's a roundabout way of just separating the primary two sides of the recent "Safe Space" change in Alliance into two separate servers that mostly do the same thing - which isn't a productive solution in my opinion. But I am interested to see if things have changed on the "SOTS" topic for Team given the recent Alliance server change.

A few statements to potentially guide you:

- I was elevated from Forum Mod to game mod around the time the SOTS rules were relaxed/removed so I can only speak to what I've been able to read on both Team Talk and Mod Talk to the pros/cons and complications.

- Clarification: SOTS rules were nothing more than additional moderation on this server. The ingame mechanisms never really changed that I recall. The game mods attempted to initially let the game flow naturally until a majority decided there needed to be more active enforcement policies. Off-hand I don't recall how long it lasted but was ultimately abandoned due to a change in the majority opinion on top of moderation headaches.

- Some old previous game mechanic change suggestions like ingame war dec providing protection from outside hitting would be easily exploitable. It would need to be setup using some of the language as the Alliance Safe Space to allow exceptions for retals of sorts for attacks made prior to war dec and during said period. Although it still does not fully resolve the potential issue of two tags simply using the war dec option as a means of mutual exclusive protection. While individual moderator judgement posed challenges in the past, especially in gray areas and tolerance levels, adding the human component helps reduce exploitation in my opinion but obviously increases the risk of absolute consistency.

- Things moderators likely won't do of it was enforced again (subject to discussion, but still unlikely):
--> Moderate based solely on information/source that would seem to be politically driven; I.E. - relationships/alliances/hate between players and clans
--> Police tags based solely on similar or shared name
--> Follow and make decisions based on forum activity. Example - official declaration of war on Team Talk used as a method to start receiving attention for possible moderator policing. I can elaborate why if needed.

The good news is this would be mostly a moderation initiative if we simply did this with no ingame changes needed and would take less effort than making other game tweaks.

So... feel free to run with this topic if it's something you're passionate about. Fair warning from the start: keep the random nonsense chatter in its place and let the discussion have its day. You know who you are.


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Could be closer to accounts ever created. Using that logic, Earth Empires has over 75,000 players!

Also, please don't recruit for other games on the forum. I'm leaving it because I understand that wasn't your intent here.

It's obviously not really Derrick posting. Plus, look how comparatively short that one post was.

Whomever you are, please return Derrick's cellphone/laptop. It's also super weird you'd be using his game account to post for him. But you've accidentally made far too much sense so the jig is up.

VPN/proxy use is against the rules. Have a nice day.

In some cases, some mods can, yes. But there wasn't an open discussion. I found out with the rest of you. I think I posted that somewhere.

I'm not saying discussions weren't had. I was just saying where the location they didnt seem to happen and that I wasn't included if there was one of sorts. You can also have private messages on discord, btw, same as IRC. I'm not saying that's what he meant, just pointing out it still could have happened.

I'm not criticizing your assumptions, by the way.

Any discussions on the recent topic/game change happened without my knowledge. I can only confirm what I know - that if someone stated it happened on discord, it did not happen in any actual "channel" room on the EE discord. I cannot speak for Galleri. Honestly, I feel like you already have your assumptions how this preceded. I found out the same way as the rest of you.

Don't necro threads please

Bonus

So you're confused why you can't reply to a message sent from a source that doesn't have an actual country in-game because it came from a game moderator that was issuing a warning for inappropriate messages rather than deleting your country, AND you were going to reply with something inappropriate. Did I understand that correctly?

Bonus

I think one of the main reasons thus stalled was still too many conceptual and philosophical unknowns still to resolve. I feel like this go-live is a version of an unfinished project still.

Oil was at decent prices most of the round. It still is at the moment, actually

You can practice on the Alpha game servers if thats what you're mostly interested in.

Less? Almost all of your deletions with you and your buddy were instances when one of you jumped in to help the other when the third party had no previous interactions, often with one of you even being the initial aggressor. There's a reason your deletion history is a field of lavender.

Continue your baseless misguided tirade on moderators and you'll end up being freed from your obligation to post here at all.

I'm fairly sure I've come across most of what you guys are arguing about cobwebbed on the mod and dev sections of the forums at some point. I can't share it anyway... I just made this post to say I don't care enough to go look.

This thread was never going anywhere positive anyway.

Agreed

Moved to BnS

In my professional experience, its relatively common to only use whole dollars in financial reporting for larger amounts. While cash transactions often have cents/decimals, they can clutter up reports. The thought process is that $5,591.99 is still not actually $5,592, so just report to the whole dollar you have.

So could be something similar here due to decimals

If I change everyone's country name so it's in Pig Latin, I probably finally opened my Pappy Van Winkle

Is Salty Jacob self-named or did someone else give him this moniker?

This thread is going to get back on topic.

Keep it primary round 80 focused, guys. Fair warning.

Gerdler was placed in a forum mod position through the same process as anyone else: He volunteered and a discussion with review was brought up to a panel of game mods, devs, and admins - which was left open for several months (not uncommon). Gerdler and I have always had (and still have) very different views of gameplay and game culture, but my assessment on the moderation topic was objective.

Are you just questioning his judgement or all of ours?

Play the game, guys. The soap opera gets tired quickly.

Gerdler is not a game moderator

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

Deja vu

Topping ancient threads will get you a temporary forum ban. Don't do it.

Sharing ops and break info is not necessarily a prerequisite for breaking the coordination rule. You asked players for help hitting someone on a solo server. This is not a new interpretation of the rule.

In regards to message reporting, the person you were antagonizing for days through messenger was given a warning. For me, I chose to do a warning given the context of all exchanged messages between you two and because the player had no prior warnings or deletions for ingame messages. In other cases, I may make the determination that a deletion is warranted at the start. I can't speak to your second example from a previous round since I don't recall being involved in reviewing that one.



As requested:

"You should be hitting [##] [country name] He’s attacking top players and dropping the land, only a matter of time before he attacks you Best to PS him with a nice jet strike"


I'm more than happy to discuss this in private with you when I get a moment. Blasting mods on the forums is generally not a good start to the appeal process

Attempting coordination through ingame messaging with other players on a solo server