This was caused by a bug that should be fixed now.

He's banned because he requested that the moderators ban him. How lame is it to request a ban then attack the moderators for fulfilling the request? Why do you do weird stuff like this instead of just playing the game?

If a player asks you to post something on his behalf it's probably because they are forum banned. A non-banned player would simply post it himself.

Every experience that I've had with Dark Demon has been positive. He seems like a nice guy who cares about the game.

It's not a problem that I can solve by myself. When a post like that shows up there are four ways to deal with it:

1) Ignore it - this normalizes abuse towards the entire game staff and makes for a bad first impression to prospective players
2) Argue with the user and defend myself - waste of time and looks unprofessional
3) Delete the post - most of the time the user will just post it again more times (see the recent llaar spam)
4) Ban the user

I've been telling folks for over a year that they need to focus on playing the game instead of doing all of this weird stuff that is outside of the game. Now we're at the point where major alliance leaders honor and encourage these disgusting acts. I expect that things are going to get a lot worse in the short term.

Hi Suicidal,

That's pretty much how things already work? Here's an example AT post that got someone forum banned: https://www.earthempires.com/...e-talk/slag-53744#1055972

I'm glad that we're in agreement about this and thank you for your public support.

If you just play the damn game then you won't have any problems. That's the ee experience for the vast majority of the players. Some players who insist on doing weird stuff outside of the game do manage to earn bans.



You already said that you're quitting the game and you got like 25 complaining posts in a row. How is this fun for you? Are you trying to make everyone miserable here?

You and I both know that it's easy to avoid bans. You also know that making posts like this hurt the game that you love. I don't understand why you do it.

Fun fact: we're only 5 weeks into this round of Classic and we already have more harmful spy ops performed than during the entirety of last round.

Sure, Hessman123 used to engage in a lot of destructive behavior including targeting players as a group due to cross server grudges. His account was placed under military sanctions. He sent me a message years later asking to be removed from military sanctions. He said that he would try to netgain and wouldn't grief people anymore. He did well for a while but it seems like one bad round is all it took for him to go back on his word.

Just goes to show the futility of giving players N chances. It never goes any other way.

https://imgur.com/a/HxNFTgN

It is disappointing that the person who has been given the most special treatment out of anyone (you, in case that isn't clear) constantly complains and turns himself into a victim when the situation doesn't even involve him. Just give it a rest already. How is this even fun for you? Can't you just play the game?

I wouldn't recommend it.

The fix is still in progress.

15 credits have been awarded to all players who had premium active during the past 8 days.

The full details are on the GDI page. Let me know if anything is confusing.

"You may perform special attacks against a target that has performed two or more offensive actions against you that is within 25% and 400% of your networth.

You may perform harmful spy ops against a target that has performed two or more offensive actions against you without any networth restrictions."

Lions Gate (#70) performed 79 landgrabs last round. For 75 of those landgrabs, he got a successful info op within 15 minutes of attacking the target. Turmoil (#67) never got a successful info op within an hour of any grab by Lions Gate (#70). The cheating pattern that you are alleging (#67 was somehow performing spy ops on behalf of #70) is false. We don't delete player countries based on the opinion of an angry mob.

Time differences in the data below are in seconds. The spying and grabbing pattern is extremely typical.

╔════╦══════════╦════════════╦══════════╦══════════╗
║    ║ success  ║ time       ║ diff_70  ║ diff_67  ║
╠════╬══════════╬════════════╬══════════╬══════════╣
║  2 ║ 1        ║ 1754412153 ║ 89       ║ NULL     ║
║  3 ║ 1        ║ 1754412158 ║ 94       ║ NULL     ║
║  4 ║ 1        ║ 1754412288 ║ 41       ║ NULL     ║
║  5 ║ 1        ║ 1754412292 ║ 45       ║ NULL     ║
║  6 ║ 1        ║ 1754412298 ║ 51       ║ NULL     ║
║  7 ║ 1        ║ 1754440726 ║ 38       ║ NULL     ║
║  8 ║ 1        ║ 1754440732 ║ 44       ║ NULL     ║
║  9 ║ 1        ║ 1754440744 ║ 56       ║ NULL     ║
║ 10 ║ 1        ║ 1754440787 ║ 99       ║ NULL     ║
║ 11 ║ 1        ║ 1754440975 ║ 40       ║ NULL     ║
║ 12 ║ 1        ║ 1754440979 ║ 44       ║ NULL     ║
║ 13 ║ 1        ║ 1754440984 ║ 49       ║ NULL     ║
║ 14 ║ 1        ║ 1754441461 ║ 27       ║ NULL     ║
║ 15 ║ 1        ║ 1754441466 ║ 32       ║ NULL     ║
║ 16 ║ 1        ║ 1754441470 ║ 36       ║ NULL     ║
║ 17 ║ 1        ║ 1754441475 ║ 41       ║ NULL     ║
║ 18 ║ 0        ║ 1754441634 ║ NULL     ║ NULL     ║
║ 19 ║ 1        ║ 1754441672 ║ 68       ║ NULL     ║
║ 20 ║ 1        ║ 1754441678 ║ 74       ║ NULL     ║
║ 21 ║ 1        ║ 1754441682 ║ 78       ║ NULL     ║
║ 22 ║ 1        ║ 1754441687 ║ 83       ║ NULL     ║
║ 23 ║ 1        ║ 1754441693 ║ 89       ║ NULL     ║
║ 24 ║ 1        ║ 1754442169 ║ 147      ║ NULL     ║
║ 25 ║ 0        ║ 1754442174 ║ 152      ║ NULL     ║
║ 26 ║ 1        ║ 1754460272 ║ 18250    ║ 13075    ║
║ 27 ║ 1        ║ 1754460282 ║ 18260    ║ 13085    ║
║ 28 ║ 1        ║ 1754460294 ║ 18272    ║ 13097    ║
║ 29 ║ 1        ║ 1754494608 ║ 31       ║ 47595    ║
║ 30 ║ 1        ║ 1754494614 ║ 37       ║ 47601    ║
║ 31 ║ 1        ║ 1754494619 ║ 42       ║ 47606    ║
║ 32 ║ 1        ║ 1754494911 ║ 33       ║ 30494    ║
║ 33 ║ 1        ║ 1754494916 ║ 38       ║ 30499    ║
║ 34 ║ 1        ║ 1754494922 ║ 44       ║ 30505    ║
║ 35 ║ 1        ║ 1754495316 ║ 81       ║ 112611   ║
║ 36 ║ 1        ║ 1754495321 ║ 86       ║ 112616   ║
║ 37 ║ 0        ║ 1754495329 ║ 94       ║ 112624   ║
║ 38 ║ 1        ║ 1754495585 ║ 36       ║ 48304    ║
║ 39 ║ 1        ║ 1754495592 ║ 43       ║ 48311    ║
║ 40 ║ 1        ║ 1754495603 ║ 54       ║ 48322    ║
║ 41 ║ 1        ║ 1754512490 ║ 41       ║ 5672     ║
║ 42 ║ 1        ║ 1754512495 ║ 46       ║ 5677     ║
║ 43 ║ 1        ║ 1754512500 ║ 51       ║ 5682     ║
║ 44 ║ 1        ║ 1754518344 ║ 110      ║ 71645    ║
║ 45 ║ 1        ║ 1754518354 ║ 120      ║ 71655    ║
║ 46 ║ 1        ║ 1754531967 ║ 89       ║ NULL     ║
║ 47 ║ 1        ║ 1754531973 ║ 95       ║ NULL     ║
║ 48 ║ 1        ║ 1754531979 ║ 101      ║ NULL     ║
║ 49 ║ 1        ║ 1754532276 ║ 41       ║ 7581     ║
║ 50 ║ 1        ║ 1754532477 ║ 81       ║ NULL     ║
║ 51 ║ 1        ║ 1754535274 ║ 593      ║ NULL     ║
║ 52 ║ 1        ║ 1754577320 ║ 38       ║ NULL     ║
║ 53 ║ 1        ║ 1754577327 ║ 45       ║ NULL     ║
║ 54 ║ 1        ║ 1754577503 ║ 66       ║ NULL     ║
║ 55 ║ 1        ║ 1754577508 ║ 71       ║ NULL     ║
║ 56 ║ 1        ║ 1754577518 ║ 81       ║ NULL     ║
║ 57 ║ 0        ║ 1754577590 ║ 34       ║ NULL     ║
║ 58 ║ 0        ║ 1754577608 ║ 52       ║ NULL     ║
║ 59 ║ 1        ║ 1754577617 ║ 61       ║ NULL     ║
║ 60 ║ 1        ║ 1754577623 ║ 67       ║ NULL     ║
║ 61 ║ 1        ║ 1754577627 ║ 71       ║ NULL     ║
║ 62 ║ 1        ║ 1754578547 ║ 104      ║ 37809    ║
║ 63 ║ 0        ║ 1754578554 ║ 111      ║ 37816    ║
║ 64 ║ 1        ║ 1754578735 ║ 51       ║ 131767   ║
║ 65 ║ 1        ║ 1754578740 ║ 56       ║ 131772   ║
║ 66 ║ 1        ║ 1754578745 ║ 61       ║ 131777   ║
║ 67 ║ 1        ║ 1754579461 ║ 480      ║ NULL     ║
║ 68 ║ 1        ║ 1754579467 ║ 486      ║ NULL     ║
║ 69 ║ 1        ║ 1754579473 ║ 492      ║ NULL     ║
║ 70 ║ 0        ║ 1754580854 ║ 54       ║ NULL     ║
║ 71 ║ 0        ║ 1754580877 ║ 77       ║ NULL     ║
║ 72 ║ 1        ║ 1754597420 ║ 114      ║ NULL     ║
║ 73 ║ 1        ║ 1754597767 ║ 79       ║ NULL     ║
║ 74 ║ 0        ║ 1754598106 ║ 182      ║ NULL     ║
║ 75 ║ 1        ║ 1754598120 ║ 196      ║ NULL     ║
║ 76 ║ 1        ║ 1754598124 ║ 200      ║ NULL     ║
║ 77 ║ 1        ║ 1754598128 ║ 204      ║ NULL     ║
║ 78 ║ 1        ║ 1754598133 ║ 209      ║ NULL     ║
║ 79 ║ 1        ║ 1754638383 ║ 58       ║ 44272    ║
║ 80 ║ 1        ║ 1754638388 ║ 63       ║ 44277    ║
╚════╩══════════╩════════════╩══════════╩══════════╝

There were four examples of it happening last round alone. The game moderators do not have the luxury of making up facts and going by vibes. They investigate the specific circumstances.

Yes, it is embarrassing that you guys are inventing a completely different set of facts. I mean really, claiming that "no op at all" was performed? How can you even pretend to know whether or not a successful informational spy op occurred? The game doesn't inform of you that. Did Drow hack the game's database?

https://youtu.be/...RFs-4StkeL-RSnW1&t=45

Failed informational spy operations do not convey any information and do not change the game state; thus, cheating is not possible with them. Hope this helps.

1) Complaining about getting killed by a group of players
2) Complaining about getting farmed
3) Complaining about a single land grab
4) Complaining about getting your banks bombed
5) WE ARE HERE => Complaining about failed informational spy ops <= WE ARE HERE

It's especially strange to see the players against military sanctions complain about failed informational spy ops. I just don't get it. Informational spy ops are even allowed on the Cooperation server. If they upset you that much then there really isn't any game server that can accommodate your needs.

Classic and Express have the same rules. Classic has no NPCs. The idea that player are not allowed to hit player countries is obviously false.

In general, I think that players should be extremely suspicious of anyone here who claims to not even like playing the game. Why is someone here if they don't even like playing the game? IMO the answer is pretty obvious but I'll keep it to myself at this time.

For the record, his reference was to about ten deletions or so that occurred back in 2014. Not 2024. 2014.

There is zero tolerance for players lying about game staff actions in an attempt to stir up drama or cause trouble.

Superfly isn't sanctioned

Base spy operation returns have been kept the same for the Cooperation server, but spy tech now provides a bonus to returns. So stealing ops have been buffed compared to Change Set 29. I realized that limiting the amount of resources lost by NPC countries didn't really matter.

I believe all changes for the Cooperation server are now documented in the game so removing the sticky for this thread.

This bug applied to the country level and would be cleared if the player ever viewed news manually. If the player did not view news manually then the bug would continue to apply to that country.

The bug should be fixed now for all countries. Note that countries currently impacted by the bug may see a large number of news items upon first viewing of the main page.

Yes.

This has been fixed.

On a coop-style express you wouldn't have ingame allies, diplomacy, or any reason to send ingame messages or post on the boards. It would be missing too much player interaction.

It's the other way around. In my opinion, the game is more fun when playing with friends. Cooperation is best enjoyed in an active tag with lots of discussion about various topics. You could also get that destocking help that you kept asking for. However, some players prefer the solo experience and they are welcome to do that on the Cooperation server.

This still applied to tournament: "During the last 30 turns of a reset, the humanitarians range will tighten with ((turnsleft/31.7)^2+1.05) with a minimum of the range"

A solo PvE environment already exists. There are plenty of solo tags on the Cooperation server.

There are no plans to do a permanent coop style Express server. There wouldn't be anything to talk about on the forums for such a server. We have that problem already for Cooperation but that's mitigated by clans having discussions amongst their own members.

Superfly, your own excellence at the game is exactly the problem. We all know that a player of your high caliber doesn't think that a rainbow is a good strategy, but here you are defending rainbows in an attempt to pretend that you weren't griefing. Come on, we all know better.

Hi Superfly, you are free to pretend that 121 landgrabs is the same thing as "one PS" if you want but I suspect that you won't convince anyone with that kind of argument.

Hi Superfly, you already understand the difference but I'll explain it here for the benefit of those who don't play on Alliance server.

On the Alliance server, players self-identify into groups using their tags. If clan A has a problem with clan B then they may choose to declare war on Clan B. That's just politics.

On the Express server, there are no clans or politics and players often choose new country names each round. #76 is just excessively hitting countries at RANDOM in order to ruin the playing experience of others.

Next round we're going to start placing the truly egregious offenders into military sanctions.

There was a bug where GDI costs would be applied to countries not in GDI on some servers. This bug has been fixed.

Last four rounds have had a farmer, casher, techer, and indy win once.

You charged into a conversation that didn't involve you and asked "why are you protecting a cheater now?" Would you behave in such a rude and belligerent fashion in real life?

Just walk away. You don't even play on this server.

Stop trying to make trouble by throwing out false accusations towards me and by bullying other players. I don't know what you guys need to do to get this out of your system but consider this your notice that you need to work through it somewhere else. It isn't welcome on these boards.

This is what happened last round:

Country A landgrabs country B.

Country B retals country A.

Ratski then performs general spy ops on both country A and country B after all of the action is done.

The claim made by three of you at this point is that Ratski was cheating to help country B. This is absurd.

Stop trying to make trouble by throwing out false accusations towards me and by bullying other players. I don't know what you guys need to do to get this out of your system but consider this your notice that you need to work through it somewhere else. It isn't welcome on these boards.

You are out of line and your accusations are without merit.

This has been a rule for the past 14 years I think. The new GDI page calls it out:

"During the final 6 hours of the round, only informational spy ops are allowed unless the target has already engaged in one or more offensive action against you."

This is because "humanitarians" is going away as a concept for change set 30 and everything is instead blamed on GDI. The server details are wrong for tourney because it's stuck on an old version.

This should be fixed now. The problem only occurred with the "Default" attacking style.