All Mods suck

down with mods!

down with rules!

down with the laws!

let us all return to a society without regulations, let us return to a state of nature! lol

ok, so you who say abortion should be illegal, but now because it is illegal, instead of in your words "killing a child when it does not even have sentient awareness"

those individuals have just probably killed at least 1 individual, if not more individuals. So your "act" of saving 1 life, has in-turn caused many lives to be ended. How the hell is that Christian? Many lives of innocent individuals have to be lost due to 1 group's religious beliefs?

You all say that socioeconomic surroundings and backgrounds should not matter, but unfortunately, nobody wants to teach young kids and teenagers about sexuality. The schools do not want to do it because of loss of funding and because parents do not want their children to learn about sex, but at the same time, they do not want to teach their children about sexuality, about diseases related to sex. Republicans only want abstinence sexual education taught because they live in some fantasy land where there is no raging hormones.

It is worse for the poor where many children only have 1 parent, and it is, sadly, usually the mother.

The irony, Republicans want less government in our lives, unless it is what they want done. I strongly support abortions for reasons of this world cannot contain an infinitely growing human population. The more lives that are on this planet, the less fresh water that is going to be available, far less food, as more land will be needed for homes, and with less land comes fewer farms and diminishing wildlife and trees.

This country, especially in the southern stats, is sadly, still quite raciest. Those that need help the most, and truly need it, often cannot get the help they need and they have to fend for themselves.

For you people that hate abortion

who should take care of all these 55 million babies had they been born?

Adoption? Our foster homes are horrible, most of these children would of probably become gang members. The United States so has the capacity to incarcerate 10's of millions of new inmates *rolls eyes*

Republicans are all for "saving the child's life" until it is born, then to hell with it. If the child gets raped, beaten, lives a miserable life it is not there concern. They want to cut the federal government down until there is nothing left of it.

Funny thing is, Mississippi (who just made the only Planned Parenthood clinic illegal (based on the fact they have to have a full timer there), is one of the poorest if not these poorest state.

Republicans want individuals to "stop sucking state and federal resources dry" but when young individuals, or poor individuals, have sex, they do not have any options. So the poverty rate continues to climb.

The worse thing is, this country cannot support an indefinite population. *shurgs*

Personally, one of my favorite presidents is Lyndon Johnson and boy do I wish we had a LBJ type president right now so our government would actually do something

Obama is certainly not my favorite president, i'm more interested in what history will have to say about his presidency in about 10 years (as of right now i'm not reading any history on Bush jr or Obama as everything out right now is far to biased on both and I find personally that Bush was one of our worse presidents, he, in my opinion, is only sightly better than majority of the Civil war era presidents (Buchanan, Fillmore, Pierce). But, i'll let history decide on them both.

I'm quite interested in history's interpretation of Carter's presidency once he is deceased and all his files finally become open to historians as his presidency was vilified, might give an interesting take on Bush Jr's presidency *shrugs*

i'm just wondering, what you all do with all these guns?

you say it is to protect, but protect how? You cannot walk around with an AK or any other semi-auto weapon... out in society and it would seem that would be annoying and if you could, i'm assuming it would be in it's case disassembled and not much use if someone already has their gun drawn shooting as I doubt the shooter will stand by and just let someone assemble their weapon.

To protect your home? That seems over kill, if someone breaks in while you are asleep and you do get to your gun, you may or may not be able to kill the person before they shoot and kill you, that is if your gun is loaded before hand (or you are quick to load it). But the damage you'll do to your house seems to me would be costly.

And what happens with the bullets that do not hit your intended target and go trough your walls and hit someone outside? or go through another house and injure or kill someone?

Finally, there is are laws where you cannot over kill an intruder, if you purposely shoot someone 20 30 times, yes you killed the intruder, but chances are you will have problems with over killing (which is one of the problems with that Arias trial going on right now) and do not think that the killer's family would not bring charges against you, it happens and probably would happen.

And please don't say that you are all great with guns and that nothing bad would ever happen.

Wow, you know something the rest of the American people don't know? If so please let your republican Tea sloppers know so the real tea drinkers in Britain do not get offended.

It is great that you just insulted all of a America with that statement. Once again, you either have a HUGE hardon for Obama, or you are an open raciest towards Obama, since you have nothing but hate towards him.

Guess what, the polls ranking the best and worst presidents are ranking Obama far higher than your Bush dynasty :)....soo....if anything is a so called king, it would be your Bush and Bush Jr :) and I hear the 3rd Bush wants to become President!

Have to love 1 Dynasty ruling America for so many years eh? :D

btw spell my name right, it is only 3 letters :D (shows your low level of intelligence when you cannot get a 3 letter name spelled right rofl)

once again, why do you not talk about Grovy? Seems you have a huge hard on, or you are a huge raciest towards Obama :)

and Monex, once again, do 300 million americans live in the desert regions of the US? Do they all live in the harsh Mountainous climates? Do Americans have a sophisticated system of passages within the mountains? Do all the Americans, who want to/feel the need to/ feel that in the future that the government will far, all live in these mountains, have complex survival skills? Are they all living in the desert with no modern technology? Finally, can Americans, like the terrorists, live in a society without all of our modern day comforts?

Once again, you are comparing vastly different societies :) BTW, terrorists are trained to not only kill military, but their own people. Their suicide bombs, kill more of them than they do us.

You really believe that the American people will fall so far, that they will just blow each other up? :) You people have very little faith in our country. So do us all a favor and leave since you view our country horribly :D

Ok cool, Obama is a king, ok so since he is king, he has control over everything right? He controls ALL spending in the United states? All the police in the United States answer to him? Every Superintendence of Police go to Obama right?

Every law that has been passed was Obama's doing right? He said "we are doing it this way" and that was that right?

Do you even know wtf a king is? You want to go spew crap, how about you go to all the huge Banking and Finance institutions and tell them to but the fluff out of our government? (Yes both sides are their fluffes)

Who really runs our government? It sure as hell is not Obama, it is not Congress, and it is not the Supreme Court, it is every omnipotent lobbing group. You all say Obama should be more buddy , buddy with republicans, when, they stated the last 4 years, that they only wanted Obama to fail.

Since republicans gained control of the House, since the Govs of republican states got elected and gerrymandered all the districts of their states to make sure radical right republicans would not only get elected by stay elected for life (democrats are part of this too, but from what I have read, Republicans have done this far more than democrats) we are having a more and more and more dysfunctional government

Hell, even the republicans that are not tea baggers are beginning to realize that they ignorance of keeping the economy hostage is starting to piss off their overlords, banks.

Finally, you want a king? Grover Norqest is far more of a king that Obama. you have 1 man, 1 MAN keeping every republican under his whim based on that ignorant pledge every republican signed on to. He alone is controlling the republicans. We are supposed to have elected representatives, yet we in reality have 1 man speaking for congress, and he is not even elected.

Why don't you also go tell Grovy to stfu and go away so democrats can start dealing with intelligent republican represenatives, instead of dealing with him. and Please, don't say he is not a problem, when every moderate republican that wants to work out a deal is being restrained by 1 man, that is no longer a government

So in my view, we have President Obama and Shadow President Grover Norquest and the Supreme Court. When every republican states that they will NEVER raise taxes on even the far wealthiest (and really, do they REALLY need that 100 bedroom super ultimate mansion that is 100,000 sq feet? and not just 1, but several?) Yes many Americas do not pay taxes, but that is because they make no income, or so little income with deductions that it excludes them.

You may say "every american should pay taxes" I say, that if you barely have enough money to have basic necessities (food, clothing, shelter) then you should not pay taxes. Sorry but there are so many barriers to getting good employment so you can pay your share, that most of those 47% that don't pay taxes can't.

You will then come to immigration. You want the illegals to leave, then you pay for the massive rise in price of all food. American's have to get paid minimum wage, but really, do you think African American's will work in the fields? Do you think Caucasian American's will work in fields making minimum wage?

You really think illegal immigrants are going to stop? Mexico is a war zone. 10's of thousands of innocent civilians are dying each year. So they are doing the only thing they can and feeling north into America. If you were Mexican, would you want to stay in a country where the government is 100% (or close to it) corrupt? You think American police are corrupt, but the Mexican police force makes the Chicago Police Force corruption look nonexistence in comparison. You want them to stop? Pull all of our troops from every country over seas and send our entire military into Mexico to find and kill every member of every drug cartel. Does that seem feasible?

Next you will say "Legalized drugs!" legalizing weed would help our country out greatly, and would hurt the drug cartels, but when 1 drug cartel's leader is listed as one of the wealthiest individuals in the world, do you think he will really care? The most powerful would be hurt, and some will disappear, but the few that remain will reorganize

So please stfu about the "Obama is King" it makes you seem incredibly ignorant and no i'm not an Obama lover, but why don't you talk about Gorver as much as you talk about Obama?

Hey ford, the middle eastern countries have HUGE differences between them and us.

Those countries are mostly desert mountainous regions. They are also getting their weapons from arms dealers around that area where they are readily available. They are also using the pretext that a foreign, country is coming in. The American Military, sorry is not a foreign power, in its home country

BTW, how are those landmines doing in Vietnam? They were very effective against he US and French also, but they topography is much different than the USA as well. But, now that the war is over, they have 1000's of mines that are killing their own people.

Once again use common sense. The people in the middle east have a vastly different life style than the modernized European countries and the USA. BTW, they also believe that in death they will be rewarded handsomely, where in the Catholic / Christian religion is vastly differently.

While on the topic of religion, the Americans with the most fire arms are touted as also being the most religious. I highly doubt the individuals in this country who truly believe in the Christian religion want to ignited a massive civil war 2 that would kill probably 10's of millions of Americans.

If war was enacted in the USA, USA civilians are at a massive disadvantage because of 1. Our military does not have to transport our military half way around the world, it is already here 2. Our topography is vastly different. We do not live in a mostly desert, mountainous country. Sorry, most Americans do not live up in the vastly rough mountainous regions. 3. We are also far more advanced in our laws than many middle eastern countries. Their laws are based mostly (or sorely) on their religion.

In fact comparing modernized countries to 3rd world countries is like comparing apples and oranges.

Once again, the only reason to be buying weapons in mass, if you are not in a police or military role, is to prepare for war. Also once again, the American military is not going to declare war on its own people, and i VERY HIGHLY doubt that Russia, China, or N. Korea, or Myanmar/Burma, are going to be declaring war on the USA any time in the near or distant future.

So, why do civilians, who typically have much less gun knowledge than individuals trained to use such weapons, need to own so much fire power? Sorry but if you have a beef with the police, and they know you are heavily armed, they will usually come in with special tactics groups that are far better trained than the average American.

Also, once again, Americans are not generally the most responsible of individuals. Once again, in most of the major shootings, the individual doing the mass murders have 1) not been diagnosed with a mental disorder 2) do not have a criminal record, 3) steals fire arms from a relative 4) just goes and pics up a powerful weapon or 5) orders their personal arsenal online but 6) there has not been a report of any of these individuals going to the "black market" to buy their firearms.

They are not part of some crime syndicate that knows where to go to buy illegal weapons.

This is going to be a long post and many of you will probably disagree with most of it, but it may spark some more intelligent arguments instead of what has been argued so far on this issue.
(this is my hope but this is AT)


ok first lets take the "we need guns to protect us against the government" stance.

If the US government becomes tyrannical, it is only the US people to blame. Each state elects their representatives, and if those reps become tyrannical and at some point, form a super majority, than the American people only have themselves to blame for electing all the leaders who are tyrannical and want to take away rights.

But there is a stop gag isn't there? The only person who controls the military is the President and if he becomes someone who wants to destroy America, unless the American people have also elected in both houses of Congress a Super Majority of Reps and Senators who are also tyrannical Communists, the President would be impeached immediately, and I very highly doubt that American Generals are going to wage war on American People.

But if your belief that you should have powerful guns does come to par, that the US military is going to impose Marshall Law on the American People and subjugate us, Your Semi-Auto's are not really going to do crap against Tanks, drones, Military Helicopters and other Military Aircraft, and The American navy.

I'm sorry, but to me the argument "that you are protecting yourself against the government" is really, full of crap. If you have such a low opinion of our government, sorry but go live somewhere else and see if your life improves. We only have ourselves to blame for electing officials based on ignorance (most Americans do not even vote, and those that do vote based on name recognition, party allegiance, or stereo types. This is on a year American's vote for the President, and it gets far worse when voting in the midterm elections where far fewer people vote.


Take all the gangs for instance, If you watch the show "Gangland" Gangs do steal guns, but the majority of them, are bought, by people with no criminal records, who are affiliated with a gang, but only to buy firearms for the gang members who then get rid of the serial # to be unable to trace it back to the original owner.

I also saw the comparison of Weed to buying guns. There is 1 big difference, weed is cheap compared to buying a high level gun and ammunition.

And Ford, saying that you will kill someone if they try to take your guns, shows why more liberal minded individuals do not want this massive amount of fire arms in people's hands. You do not seem to care 2 licks about someone else's life besides your own. Sorry but when you will kill / try to kill law enforcement officers who would want to get these guns shows that you view life, and the laws as garbage

Why do we not all just start killing individuals based on laws we do not want to live by? Why have any laws at all? Once again, I see no reason to have a military sized arsenal, unless you are preparing for war why do you need 1000's of rounds of ammunition? why do you need 20? 30? 40? fire arms? Are American's so delusional about our government that you all feel that you need to prepare for war against it? Do you all have such little faith, in the government that you all help create (You elected the Governors that gerrymandered the districts to create this pathetic situation in Congress) and you in turned elected the representatives that are dysfunctional at best (this goes for both sides as there is very little moderates left in Congress and both sides mostly have far left or far right Representatives)

To Finish off, Obama can't take away your guns, he can't order the military to "go find every American with Semi-auto weapons and take them". If a Democratic President is elected in 2016, that person cannot do that either, neither can the next democratic president, or the next. The only way the any amendment can be changed is either with a super majority in both houses of congress that then needs a super majority of states to ratify the new amendment, or by the states taking up the issue first and sending it to both houses of Congress. The President can only issue orders to the agencies under the Executives Watch

And Hey, if that happens, then it means that a Super majority of American wants it to happen (as, I believe and would hope that more than 100 million Americans would turn out to vote on a new amendment, but if not, and less than 100 million (which was the voter turnout for the 2012 Election) well that is America and American's should learn to get more involved, become more knowledgeable about issues, or just stfu if a new amendment gets passed or fails to pass as it is their fault for not going out and voting (and voting intelligently not based on preconceived notions *shurgs*

So everyone that says "PDM Should be attacking!!!" um attacking with what war ready, war government lead countries? LCN wants a war, why in hell should PDM let them have their war? PDM, as far as I know, has Republics, Theo's and other governments gear towards netting, not Dictators, Tyrs, and Commi lead governments.

Let LCN "war" PDM then brag about it. It makes you guys look like morons. Your members are posting, along with SoF's it seems, comments like "PDM should be destroyed" "PDM is going to be fighting wars for the next few sets"

If alliances disappear, or war constantly, players will leave the game. What the hell is there to celebrate about that? All I read on here is fluffing "there is not enough land" "land trading is taboo" yet you are all trying to make the situation worse by running players from the game.

Do you think that having fewer players will make more land appear? That it will cease land trading? Think Pang will keep this game operating if you alliances both keep fluffing, and running players from the game? TaSk1 will come and say "i'm whining" no i'm stating facts, Sov or Boltar needs to either try to grow some class in SoF (and LCN needs to as well) or the problems will continue to grow. And Boltar, i'll keep attacking SoF as long as your members keeps wishing that PDM will be destroyed.

Also There will be those that are stating "look at my alliance it has grown" that is terrific, unfortunately, if your alliance continues to grow, and other alliances disappear, that causes major problems in FA, there will be either no pacts, or everyone will be all exploring, as, in my view, you can't have just a few large alliances and, maybe, a few small alliances. That scenario, in this game, will not work. Your members may be crying "lets war them" but if you war the same alliance, who doesn't like to war, all the time, it will erase them, eventually, from the game. Look at Rage, they just had to merge, one of the largest alliances in this game at 1 time, now is part of another. Yeah, the members may not of left, but there is now 1 less alliance to actively land grab, to war with.

*sighs* this game is a complete mess and I doubt it will ever get fixed, even under a doomsday scenario.

None of you will probably read this and take anything from it, but I predict that, if nothing is changed in the future, this game is dead. Will be sad for Pang, after trying to recreate this game, and putting time and effort into it, but your members don't seem to care much from what I can see.

oh well end my rant, continue bashing PDM on these boards, great for the community I guess.

*shurgs* could not care less, pointing out problems that will happen next set, if your leadership wants to shove those problems under the rug and wait till next set to have everything blow up, more power to you.

Since you guys cannot, will not, see the big picture, it is this game's loss. As once again, because of all this crap, i can never enjoy playing this game, so I quite awhile ago. So my views are my own, and nobody else's.

Nope, could not care less about LCN, just point out facts there. Love it though how defensive you people are.

Shows that you could not care less how your alliance is viewed, as long as you run more people from the game. The majority of you "adults" act half your age on these forums. There is no discussion, just bad mouthing, name calling, stupidity.

Great you guys put in an FA who has a serious issue with an alliance. Isn't it the FA who is supposed to come into talks without hating the other alliance for no reason?

You do know, that if there ARE issues with PDM next set, it will NOT look good on you, since you are going in with any talks with PDM with full hatred of them, with a mindset of creating pacts that totally screw them over, and a mindset to screw over PDM when any problems occur from your alliance. That sounds like a pretty screwed up person to put as one of your alliances representatives.

Hope when problems arise the entire earth community doesn't run to SoF's side because PDM, in your words "is a blight", a horrible evil, on the earth community. Your outright hatred of PDM, in my words, is going to come back and bit you and SoF in the ass.

But continue on with your 1-way minded view, it won't help out your alliance in the end *shurgs* FA's are there to make sure things run smoothly, not to create serious issues with alliances.

I'm still waiting for Task the Troll to answer my questions!

been 12 hours now, do not be shy, grow a pair and just answer them, do you honestly want this game to die?

Let you feelings be known, you already want all of PDM to disappear, so that shows to me that you are leaning for this games ultimate destruction, as with fewer and fewer people playing, it brings this game to extinction.

love the politician type move of dodging the questions I posted! ;)

Once again, if PDM leaves the game, who next? you have to hate someone new if PDM is no longer around for you to fluff about. MD has been getting a lot of hate of late, should they leave the game once again too? Then should Sol?

how is having fewer and fewer counties in this game having fun?

Once again, do you TaSk1, want this game to die? Just come out and say it, it is ok if you want this game to die.

I can just imagine the rise of stupidity this game will create as fewer and fewer people play this game, causing a further reduction in land, fewer alliances to war, and far less of a challenge of winning a war and netting. :) The "pacts" if there are any at that point in time, will have to be beyond anything realistic in enforcing LOL

Also once again, I no longer play :)

Also love how PDM is a poison, so PDM is causing everyone else to hate this game as well? Damn, didn't know PDM had enough skilled netters to cause people that much hate. Should PDM take that as a compliment? lol

Keep your Genius Level comments coming you internet troll :D

So another alliance should disappear? Are you for this game folding? ;) btw, it isn't a "little war" it is set after set after set after set of waring, fighting. So if PDM was to fold and leave, who should be next? should MD leave again? after they leave who next? should SoL leave as well?

should this game only have 5 or 6 alliances playing?

so you guys want a "war" but what you really want is something you can say you "won" at, when in essence, the other side did not fight back at all, did not care about you at all

wow put that 1 in the win books guys :) that shows that you can war with the best of them. Bet your members must be proud of your accomplishments in this war. What is next? you going to actually put on the big boy pants and war someone that is good at running wars? Or you going to keep on your diapers and continue to kill an alliance that has no interest in this war making sure that you do not sully yourselves with an actual war, just what you want to call a "war"

You guys all essentially fluff that this game is going to hell, but want to do nothing to chance it. PDM wants to net, the last time that PDM did nothing but war, was with RD and RD chased PDM away, caused most of its members to quit the game. Is that your ultimate goal? Make sure that PDM does nothing but war so its members quit playing? Then what? you going to move on to some other alliance?

It is way I quit playing, I don't have time to join war chats and sit idle for hours on end as the other sides members wall. It is boring and my work keeps me from warring. *shurgs* but I guess everyone has to play how you people want them to play.

you probably should, it is the in thing right now. Everyone blames the President, when it is Congress that is royally fluffing up lol. But yes, Obama, just like Romney, is to blame for the world's problems. Sudan? That is Obama's fault, EU Debt problems? Also Obama's fault! Poor US Education? It must be Obama's fault too! I blame Obama for me not being in the 1% too! :D

I also blame him for making me wait 7 years for the movie adaption of the Hobbit!

1) Farming --- American's do not/ will not/ care not to work on the brutal life off farm work, illegals do it. They go, you now have food prices through the roof, as Americans will want to get paid at least 12/hour to do all the back breaking 12-18 hour a day work. So they go, so do your low cost farm products lol

2) Landscaping --- Think Americans want to do that brutal work out in the 100 + degree heat? No, I don't see white, black, asian, guys out there, I see Latino, they go, so do all your landscapping

3) The market --- all the illegals go, so all your cheap products. Do you guys that hate the illegals here thing about the repercussions? No, you just hate them because they are hear illegally.

4) Stopping the Illegal Immigrants--- You want the illegals here to stop? Then we have to go into Mexico, war the cartels, and make Mexico a safe place to work again. They come here because of our huge drug habits. Sorry that is not Obama's fault, Americans were using drugs long before Obama lol. If Mexico was a safe place to work, offered decent wages, all these families would disappear. Sorry, but if I lived in Mexico, I should would not continue living there. Mexicans are doing the very basic human nature, and that is finding a way to survive

5-- What will Romney do? I have been having thie debate with a heavy Republican Co-Worker of mine, in his 40's, about what will happen if Romney gets elected. We both came to the same conclusion, nothing will happen. Your deep Republican states are electing more and more very hard line, no compromise Tea Partiers into Congress. They in turn do NOT like Romney. So what happens when you have a President and Congress that do not like each other? Statemate.

6-- What will happen? I predict, that if Romney is elected, that it will cost the Republicans big in 2014. They will have all the power again, House Tea Party, and other Republicans will not work with Romney on most issues, and they will fall apart in 2014 as nothing, once again gets done. It is in the polling data, many Republicans do not like Romney, but only want to vote him in to defeat Obama.....

is that REALLY the best reason to vote in the most powerful Representative Leader in the world? If the House (and Senate if it falls into Republicans hands which I doubt) vote to repeal National Health Care, will Romney sign and repeal it? Something based mostly off of his own legislation? Do you want to have that going into 2016? I repealed legislation that I fought for and signed into law as Gov?

Being President sucks... He will make promises that he will almost certainly not keep (based on knowledge he learns on becoming president, a non functioning Congress, or other factors), he will be secretive, he will do things in the grey area, the Supreme Court make up won't change, if he is elected president, 1 maybe 2 Republican leaning Justices might retire, but no librals.

The economy will be all on his hands, everyone will be looking at him to make "the magic" happen, to give the economy that elixer that is has been looking for, it will most likely not happen as everyone thinks, after a HUGE recession, that the economy will just magically come back to life, he will further get blamed, further hurting republicans.

This is my take, the President has a lot of powers, but he is not almighty, he can't just create that elixer to fix the economy, either the economy has to fix itself, with help from the federal government, but mostly, it has to fix itself.

7 Europe --- Romney will have very little control over what happens in Europe. He can meet, discuss, plan with the European Leaders and the Euro banks, but if they fail, to improve European Markets, Romeny will further get blamed (just as Obama is now when he has no control over how Europe does its things)

There are many factors that are in play right now, many of them Obams's fault, many of them not.

Angel once again, read history....your thinking is part of the problem lol.

If having your states elect your Fed. Level Senators, was a good thing, that would not have been done away with, but it was. Do you want the big power houses (Chicago, NYC, ect...) putting in senators? Guess what, like Servent said, they are now obligated to State special Interests, instead of National, nothing has chanced instead of who they are obligated to, and now, the people of a state, can no longer get rid of said senator through elections. (this is why there was an amendment to change it and the only amendment that has been over turned was prohibition and that is because everyone likes to drink). Go talk to a non-partisan Constitutional Historian or Governement Professor who specializes in the constitution and see how easy it is to hold a constitutional convention. There is a reason one has not been held in 20 years lol.

Sorry, but I do not like the fact of someone representing me without me voting them in.

As for the Constitutional Convention...do you really believe that any state is going to propose to start 1? Illinois was going to (or did) have a constitutional convention for our state constitution. It did (or would) cost the state millions of dollars (someone else that plays from IL can probably come along and state what happened with that as I do not remember) No state, with all their budget woes, is going to enact a hugely expensive constitutional convention, and our Gov't can't get their heads out of their asses to come anywhere close to calling for 1 lol.

Even if the Reps gain control of both houses, they would have to gain control of more than 2/3's of both houses. I do not see that happening lol. With the constant population shifts, the west is leaning ever slightly more liberal. Plus, constitutional convention are not the way to solve the nation's issues, if it was, there would be no Fed gov't.

BTW, the federal gov't is making sure that my mom continues to be employed, if the got't shrank, my several autistic brother would no longer get to live in the special group home (paid for by the gov't). He needs 24/7/365 day a year care. My mom almost lost her job last year, because of your republicans taking the damn budget-debt issue down to the last min. My dad is out of work, so you need to think how your actions effect everyone, not just your party, your special interests, your religion (which i don't like shoved down my throat) I believe in the Lord my way and don't need a bunch of religion spouting fanatics to tell me how to run my life

nahh you are America's hat, you stay up there and keep us dry and warm from the bitter colds you guys get :D

Angel you do realized that have really powerful states, in the US is a bad thing right?

You need to go, get some books, written by a historian, about why senators are elected by the people, not by the states anymore :D. You think that will change? Look at The House, do you think your Rep in the House is being held responsible?

No...if he/she was, they would be voted out, but you instead want the people, who are HATED by the country (just not by their own state ;)) to put in senators. Senators are now answerable to the House, not the people, as now the only way to vote out your senator, is to vote out your congress.

BTW you DO now that in order to have a Constitutional Convention, you need a 2/3rd's of the House and Senate to vote to enact 1, and then almost all of the states to vote and ratify whatever comes out....and that enacting anything close to that costs

umm.... Millions of $$$ and aren't you AGAINST spending tax payers money on something that won't work? :)


Obama does not and can not do anything against the 2nd amendment, your NRA sex buddies make sure of that.... and once again I do not see why American's need really powerful and really dangerous guns, what are all you republicans scared of? Planning on wagging war against your own country or something? :D

i do not believe anything will get done with Congress, until their inaction causes a major catastrophic event in the US. Regardless of who is president, Congress is not going to work with him. If Romney gets elected, the republicans can kiss 2016 goodbye, between their own infighting, inability to work with the democratic senate, and their ignorant belief that all Republicans should be far fight, American people will kick out republicans left an right in 2016.

Do not forget, the party in power, is the party that losses, which is why I do not undestand why either party wants to have all the power, when they know what lies ahead in 2014 and 2016.

I'll be voting for Obama, I could not care less about gun rights. American people have more guns than any other country in the world and our love for guns goes beyond sexual gratification.

and how do you think the country will run under a Romney-Republican-Tea Party congress?

The Tea party does not like him, and people are voting in more and more of them

I don't see anything good happening if he gets elected

A when not in a war

C when in a war

1 server, Alliance

no the real idiots are congress :)

and the american people who both, at the same time, hates congress with a passion, yet loves their individual representative, this insuring no change ever comes to congress, except to go either far right or far left now-a-days *shurgs*

Both candidates are flip-flopers. If Romney gets elected, it is not going to be all roses and sunshine for republicans, since he is too center for the tea-party to cooperate with. If Obama gets reelected, the republicans are going to spend the next 4 years fighting him and making sure to destroy the democratic party for the 2016 election.

Like every recent U.S. President, both will be secretive, both will make campaign promises, that will not be kept, but be made to get elected. Just your choice on how you want the federal government run, and our foreign policy.

Romney states that he will not hesitate to go to war with Iran, which, in my opinion, won't do much as Iran is run by the clergy and the US would have to find and kill all the leading clergy, which will probably in turn insite even worse Anti-American sentiment in the middle east that the US really does not need after being connected with that area and our wars for 10 years now.

The Teaparty wants the US to cut our debt substantially, but they seem to want to do with in a way that will send a huge show wave through the country, while keeping Defense at the same budget level or with an even higher budget (i really don't see the need for such a huge defense budget, as was shown in my US National Security class, taught by a Republican, the US far FAR outspends the next 7 countries (or so) combined )

My opinion, lets see what Obama can do with a full 2 term presidency, and see how Congress acts, as I don't see much cooperation between Congress and Romney. I just do not see anything good under a Romney Administration with the way the current Congress is run and if your only reason for voting for Romney because you have some major fear of Obama taking away your gun rights, which he has not down, mainly because of the NRA feeding Congress with so much money *shurgs*.

I'm looking for someone who can do something with our ignorant Congress, and the way they are viewing Romney, does not look good for his presidency and I do not like the prospect of oil shooting threw the roof because of the speculation that the USA and Iran could be going to war very soon and us once again going into a middle east country, looking for WMD's and finding nothing.

Just my 2 cents and my view. I'm a democrat, i'm far more disappointed with our Congress than I am with our President. I believe, if our Congress could work together, and create balanced legislation, without each party throwing in their own laws in totally unrelated legislation, and all the backstabbing, I believe Obama might have been a more effective president.

Edit: I'm disappointed with both parties in congress :)

yay we got a Thomas remark!

-100 for this thread :'(

is it bad to have a circle jerk with your multiple personalities? :D

i don't play anymore, mainly because I do not have time, and the politics of this game suck

so I really could not give 2 fluffs about SoF, you can believe what you want to believe, spew what you want to, and the world will continue to go round. I know what state PDM was in, you do not *shurgs* plow when to the alliance that had fun tag killing the same allince within weeks of tag killing it the first time.

Personally, if I was in a "war" type alliance, I would want to war an alliance that could give a long drawn out war that is challenging and fun, not prepping for war on an alliance full of netting type governments and tag killing it within a matter of days. That is my opinion and mine alone :)

you joined an alliance that blinded sided pdm this set and taged killed PDM based on their relationship with LaF

so yes, most of PDM are going to be angry of the alliance you went to.

To get an idea, watch the Hatfields & McCoys, and how Uncle Jim (Hatfield) (southerner) felt about a McCoy wearing a Yankee Solider uniform. He was angry, and eventually find the McCoy alone and killed him. The feelings of PDM towards SoF are the same, and the way they view you is the same, you decide that you are done with PDM, your home, and go over to an alliance that has no qualms about tag killing PDM quickly into the set based on incorrect information they had. If you still do not understand, well *shurgs*

I'm just finishing reading Robert K. Massie's Biography of "Catherine the Great"

*shrugs*

Your Don and all the information he needed to go to war, you guys followed him blindly, everyone in LaF benefited from that information, indirectly, it is not my fault that you all did, but you all did regardless, he lead you guys, he was the 1 who ran the show, I don't know how your chats ran against MD, but you had to of known something was up if he didn't need spy ops for countries, as her Pang's comments on this he could see everything about any country he wanted.

In conclusion, you all benefited greatly in some way. If you don't want to believe that, once again, go live in your delusional world, I couldn't give a rats behind, stop trying to play the victim card here.

so having information, information that will direct you on HOW to create all your countries, what direction to take them, and what to build and buy, does not effect the legitimacy of your countries?

Once again, you want to put this to rest, give every alliance president access to your forums for a set, untill then all the information played directly into how well your countries were run. You guys are landgrabbers, knowing what the break is 100% of the time really helps.

You all benefited from that information, so you all cheated *shrugs*

Agreed, what they did goes beyond cheating, hacking is a criminal offense, and then they had access to very personal information, yes they do not have SS #'s but they had access to everything else.

And everyone wonders why Pang wants to take a break. If you were admin, would any of you want to deal with 2 State AG's? a lengthy criminal or civil case?

Goku, you better make sure nobody else is involved, because if those 2 do have personal information and do something with it, you then have the US government involved and they have more at their disposal than Pang. Just something to think about

And once again, if they took pictures of personal information, then you guys have a lot more to worry about then a game. That is a criminal offense in American law.

And also once again, stop saying your members are innocent, they are not, sorry, your put those 2 in power, you used their information, LaF gave information, it looks like to SoF to war PDM, you had first hand knowledge of everything about MD and anyone else you warred. Everyone participated, from your top leader on down. Once again, you want this to go away, go far above and beyond. Because I do not like the idea that any of my personal information could be in someone else's hands

I was around to get botted and destroyed set after set by the old RD and this goes far beyond anything they ever did.

The problem is, you guys have knowledge, deep, powerful knowledge that everyone cried and fluffed to the admins about that they had, while at the time playing in alliances.

Who really cares about how good your countries where, you all had first hand knowledge, knowledge of every country in EE, you had knowledge when everyone was online, in every alliance. Knowledge is far more powerful than the most resourceful country. Everyone of your members benefited from YOUR TOP leader's decisions. You guys know when EVERY MDer was online, what EVERY ONE of their countries had in military, hell they probably knew if MD was going to net or war that set from their illegal access.

Stop trying to say "your members are innocent" sorry, they are not. You all put Hanlong and TC in positions in power, you all went along with everything he said without knowing how he had some sort of God like intuition. He would of had to of had some high level spies to get all the information he had, and none of you used common sense.

If everyone gains mutually off someone else's illegal gains, regardless if they know they were illegal, they are still complicit.

Look at President Nixon, he got caught in Watergate, and for decades his presidency was stated as one of the worst in American history. He tarnished his presidency, and Ford's when Ford pardoned him of all crimes.

if you are all so damn great, prove it, hell I say give EVERY alliance leader access to your forums, what your leaders did was Illegal in American law. They had access to personal REAL LIFE information. Names, addresses, phone #'s E-mail addresses. If you guys want to clear yourself, you have to go way beyond normal standards. But yet, if you think small tokens will be enough, then stay in your delusional world. Yes you are giving I believe 3 people access to your forums, but, for the EE community, that will not be enough, they will have NO WAY of knowing what went on, and now way of trusting you. IF you do not care about other alliances trusting you, then also, stay in your delusional world. But If I am in some way harmed, in RL, I will be very unhappy.

Hell I do not know who either of those 2 are. They could of taken pictures of every screen, of everyone's personal information for their own personal, illegal use, I do not know that, and you guys do not know that. If you do know that, then that is another far more serious problem.

Personally, if someone is harmed in real life because of those 2, Goku will have a lot more to worry about then your alliance and it will further put stress on Pang having to deal with Attorney Generals of 2 states and a criminal or civil investigation.

my 10 cents on this rather pathetic incident

this has not been brought up, but Ford has yet to specify how drunk he was when he got stabbed. IF you had a gun Ford, how fast could your drunk self pull it out, and accurate would your shot have been?

Could you of held it steady, or just start shooting in what your think was those assholes direction?

If you are drunk, your senses are not all there, if you did shoot, you could of vary easily of shoot someone innocent, or your gf. Depending on your inebriated state, they managed to knock the gun away from you, then they have the gun instead of a knife.

And I don't get why everyone has to brag about guns. What is the point of getting more and more and more powerful guns? The more powerful the gun, the far less useful it is for hunting, if you are hunting, you are hunting, not to blow the animal to bits

BTW criminals are not rational, they will shoot you before you shoot them if they have any hit that you have a gun, they are already coming at you with theirs out, while yours is in a holster.

BTW also you need to read up on American laws on meeting force with force, if someone comes at you with just firsts and you shoot and kill them, you just got yourself a lengthily jail sentence either for homicide or 2nd degree murder.

You have to have a reasonably high expectation that your life is endangered to use deathly force. You can't just shoot someone.

I believe American Society has to many guns, and our craving for more guns and much more powerful guns are going to create problems down the road. What do you do with a society so heavily armed, that it could, at a whim, take down its own military? Yes this is not practical now, but could it be in the future?

Just my 2 cents and my views are my views, sorry they are different from you, but if everyone was the same, this would would be a very boring place

If american paper dollar was bring printed in unlimited amounts, the USA would have Hyper Inflation and Stagnation, meaning our money would be worthless, akin to what happened to Germany before WWII, so that was an ignorant statement.

If we went back to the gold standard, our prices here in the USA will skyrocket as nobody will be using American Dollars anymore. This will also cause our money to become close to worthless. This will cause prices in everything in American to go up, including oil since oil is priced in American Dollars

And causing a 2nd Global Great Depression is not really the wisest course of action. It took 10 years + 1 great world war to get the USA out of our last 1 and several decades more for Europe to climb out from the Great Depression and the world was a hall of a lot less globalized 70 years ago.

During the Asian Financial Crisis in the late 90's it took them years to climb out. Plus if the USA Falls financially, it'll take down the IMF, World Bank, and China along with us (since they hold most of our debt). If china goes down, it's taking damn near everybody else with them. If we were to fail to pay our debts, the end result will make the housing crisis look palpable in comparison

I'm an independent, i'm for whoever will do something past trying to shove their ideals down our throats, be it democrat or republican. What I stated are scenarios if the US defaults on our debts or some of the other things that could happen if Ron Paul was elected President

And yes, getting money out of politics if the key thing, that means, in my opinion, setting term limits, barring current and past officials from becoming lobbyists, and making the salaries very unappealing for all members of congress

The problem for megaupload is that most, if not all of these countries have signed into International Intellectual Property treaties with each other and the United States through various International Intellectual Property organizations.

and Mr. Dotcom not letting the Swiss police in, and then going and hiding in a safe room certainty does not help show that he is innocent lol

I don't see this as helping Congress at all come elections lol

Lawyers have a fiduciary duty to their clients and if they do not do their duty to the best of their ability they better start looking at their malpractice insurance and possibly a new carrier

This is one of the first things that us as paralegals learn in our beginning class and i'm sure it is the first thing lawyers learn in their first classes

NO!!!

We American's need our maple syrup!

I believe it is time OWS went to the White House and Occupy it!

AMERICA IT IS TIME WE TAKE OVER AND CONQUER QUEBEC!

LET THE GOV'T KNOW WE WON'T STAND FOR A SYRUP SHORTAGE! :D

Dibs on the copyright issue, it is the owners life + 70 years here in the United States and I assume it is basically the same everywhere else with pertaining to a limited time period

You only get Country wide protection on any Intellectual Property for a certain period. This makes sure that the owner doesn't monopolize their product (copyright or patent) but at the same time allows them to benefit from their product. You would have to look at one of the International Organizations and Intellectual Property Treaties that were formed.

So in a sense Copyright cannot be renewed. Here in the United States it is automatic Pertaining to the Lanham Act. Patents are good for 20 years (14 years for Plant Patents) and trademarks can be renewed every 10 years indefinitely as long as you meet all the guidelines :)