@Slagpit -

I’d suggest trying to get in touch with @ UgolinoII. He and I made competing edits to bots 12-18 months ago to make them behave more human-like and rationally. Things like an oiler bot, stocking and destocking food and oil, not overbuying tech, etc. We cleaned up on the AI server with our edits. I’d work with him though - he’s the real coder, and I guarantee you don’t want my hack job :)

I appreciate the thinking here for sure. Based on my understanding, it’s not enough to get me to come back. At the end of the day it would add a lot of complexity without actually eliminating the griefing.

A few thoughts to build upon the work here though to try to further reduce griefing:

*Give clans owners the ability to turn off hits on other clans. There’s always some typo (Hi Hardy!) that results in some accidental damage to another country.
*Restrict GDI countries to two hits on them in a 24 hour, period, outside of war. I’d even say one hit (Hi Hardy!).
*Build in the Ebert rule, express style. Two hits on a clan = your clan dies. If you don’t disable hits on a GDI clan and if your clan hits that GDI clan twice, that GDI clan can kill you all without any waiting period. Clan allies of the GDI clan can also help clean the floor (e.g. Monsters and ICN could help LaF take out the garbage because they are clan allies).

All that said, Derrick had a good point about griefers having a smaller pool of players to go after. Perhaps allow GDI clans to exit GDI after 72 hours in GDI, sort of how it works now for countries in alliance. That way clans that want to war can have the same protection available until they do war.

Also, pricing this in a way that discourages running a good country is not my vote. Make it net worth based cost, not land based. There’s already going to be a tax on growth by having to actually carry defense against bot retals and due to even higher market prices for jets.

Finally techers will be most disadvantaged by retals by bots. Techer humans will tend to grab techer bots more frequently, and those bots will tend to carry more missiles due to teching warfare. For other country types it’d be far more about luck of the draw on a missile retal, and that sort of luck could decide whether you win a reset or not. I’d start by enabling only land grab retals, see how that works, and then consider adding other types later if it seems prudent.

My $0.32. Thanks for the prompt and the effort here!

Prime is as dirty and about as dumb as they come, cy. You already knew that, though. Sorry you’re dealing with this crap this set and a pathetic game that won’t clean up its act. Galleri for mod boss! (Seriously.). Who is with me?!?

Are they all named chevs?

That might be true. But everyone definitely keeps track of the largest grab ever. It’s one of the most important historical notes of the game!

Congrats all!

And En4cer now #1 on top 3 netting sets with a $1.122 billion average!

Boltar needs a thread too?

You seem to be jealous of not having your own thread. So I fixed that!

He’s a pretty nice guy. He’s rather experienced at Earth. He’s also a bit of a dirtball personally. I wouldn’t let anyone you care about get too close to him. I suspect he is a huge fan of Taco Bell.

That is all.

For sure. At one point that set I realized I had a really good finish in my sights and should stop putzing around lol. Never did get a third techer ally!

And still early days this set. We would have both been there two sets back if land had been normal. But early set war definitely helps to free up land! Too bad I missed the first week of this set!

Yeah. I got greedy and had a batch of tech get stuck at too high a price - or would have hit 1.25. Just like you would have if not for chevs. That said, that single tech sale was really the only thing that didn’t bounce my way that set though. Aside from, of course, Hardy accidentally hitting me in alliance instead of his true target in team. :)

Won last reset. And two before that. And has finished second or better for a year straight. And has the highest net ever on this server.

That is all.

Where are the mods? Derrick is out of control!

TTT! Like En4cer!

Congrats!! I don’t know how you did it two resets in a row - one was enough for me for a while!

I don’t understand this thread

Who is at the top of your draft list?

I’m scared to click on any link from chevs

You gotta spend money to make money. 1000% return guaranteed. Funds returned in last 72 hours of set. GDIC insured. PM me for more info or just send offer and 10% of your goods to #168 while spots remain open!

*Gerdler Deposit Insurance Corporation. Insurance does not cover losses due to tech thief, acts of war, acts of terrorism, or gameplay or financial advice from chevs.

And our tag is PPS.

Our goal this set is to have 10 countries with $1b final net each. Join us if you’d like to master the gaining of net worth.

Pacts will be handled by Assassin.

Son Goku will lead our netgaining school.

And chevs will be our IT person and will reprise his role as server tech thief.

Good luck to all this set!

Thanks! Heck of a set you had, En4cer! I thought it was awesome that you stuck with rigs when the market turned before the war. Made for a lot of fun and some great suspense!

It’s going! But my wonderful vacation is wrapping up, and I’m back to work tomorrow.

I hear mutts can get the rona too. Hopefully that isn’t what got you down!

Seems like Ruthie and BD are the ones doing the hiding!

Ruthie!!

Whoa that was way back in the day!

Still waiting for you to find the other surprise I left behind!

I heard that LCN was coming back this set?

This has turned out well

I agree. That Z guy is swell.

Movies

I agree! Although pretty sure this thread was both bonus and troll! Lethal Weapon makes it so for sure!

It’s not all that often that the two best netters in the game get called out in the same thread!

I’m confused. Does this mean HERO is now part of PS? Or are you not actually joining PS, Cuban?

I doubt he’s really leaving. He’s probably the leader of BOMB.

Don’t you mean “goodbye again chevs”?

Next is our comeback and domination set. Get ready EE! Please message me for a pact.

In case you are wondering, confirmed members for next set include:
-Son Goku
-Helmet
-Gerdler
-Fingolfin
-Derrick
-Requiem
-mrcuban
-Banks
-Ruthie
-Hellrush
-Marshal

Watch out!

I propose that this is actually En4cer’s record, not chevs’ record. Any halfwit could have made (and did!) that hit. The size of the grab was only possible due to En4cer’s grabbing skills. If anything he should be upset that chevs didn’t go tyranny before hitting him. Just my two cents.

News flash: Ruthie has been voted president! Join quickly before spots fill up! Send a DM to Ruthie for access and tag pass!

I stopped playing express when my good shot at $75M was ruined by two fluffs RoRing. Just didn’t seem worth the time investment anymore. Seems that even the grabbing changes haven’t made a difference on the terrorists?

It’s spelled with a cz. Czar. Just like czuicider. Thought you’d know that.

Confirmed. I will be farm land for Requiem once again.

I did half ass it the reset I won, almost got accidentally taken out by Hardy early in the set, only ran 3500 turns total, was letting someone leach, and only grabbed to 75k and got none of the free bot land after the war started. I spent far less time playing and basically no mental energy that set compared to the set when Requiem suicided my $1b+ FFO. If I had finished that set I probably would not have topped $1.2b, but it was a far more skillful and nuanced set.

There are a lot of good players here, but it’s hard to distinguish finely between the best because the game is really a combination of skill, dedication of time, and gradients of luck.

Given how each set is different and that the bots and grabbing rules have changed over time, I think wins or t3s are probably a better metric than highest net for comparison of those who play consistently.

Also letting Chevs into your alliance after his grab on en4cer was stupid - I should know!

Requiem might be a grade A fluffhole, but this post is on point! Suck it Chevs!

Due to popular demand, PS will return next reset!

However, going forward we will tag as PSL, Post Suicider Lament. So if you have ever suicided and feel bad about it, this is the place for you to express your grief about the loss of respect you have on the server and to rehabilitate to get back in the good graces the earth gods (aka Derrick and Gerdler). Requiem, we’re especially looking at you to join us!

Please reach out to me directly for pacts for next set!

Lame suicider’s dream. I guess requiem coded it.

I got $1.2b net with a little more than 20k tpt at this point in the set. It seems better than your strategy of combining MBs and rigs.

Not if I FS requiem first. Gerdler said that it’d be ok to make up for last set. I figure if I were to start a country now that I could take him out in about a week or so.

Ok I now consider Gains to be a huge asshole because you were both in LaF. Sorry Gains.

Rage quitting a conversation. At least you didn’t ruin someone’s country this time. But more quitting nonetheless. They say winners never quit.