I changed the restart bonus part. That acceptable?

Also gonz0 the only reason I asked if you were Hispanic is you bring up race a lot and complain about certain groups and I was wondering if you are simply racists. You brought that up. How would I even know that?

Honestly between people sayin mean things and people trying to do the old Soviet Union tactic of re-education for wrong-think I think the power tripping authoritarians are the larger threat.

Fortunately the odds of coming to a freemasonic nation and taking our right to be free men is zero. It will never happen.

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Having said that I can be fairly racist (I think everyone is to a degree) but the Asians that have come to America have conducted Themselves very respectfully and have earned my respect hands down. Same goes for all the India immigrants, very nice people and have caused zero trouble here.


There is a group I won’t talk about that I think OP should be worried about. They go around in large packs beating the **** out of asian people on a regularly basis and seem to think is a game or funny.
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I’m literally Jewish too so I could very easily say “ban everything that hurts my feelings”

I didn’t say a single thing about my personal beliefs here or try to force them upon everyone. I was making a joke and pretending to be super offended over everything like certain people do and making light of it.



The fact that you are now still upset this long after is pretty hilarious though. You really are a hater aren’t you g0nz0 haha

For the record I don’t believe any of they redneck America crap about “much freedom” and all bs. It’s clear Americans themselves don’t care about it freedom as it’s been stripped and they still defend the people who turns their country into a police state.


You would think They would at least stand up for the founding laws of the country but no then don’t even do that.


Now besides the fact that obviously Americans have no problems with their constitution being trampled, the founding idea of the country itself goes against my religion, Judaism.

I believe in following Gods laws when it comes to women’s rights, when it comes to race and multiculturalism, I believe in the torah.


Americans obviously do not, they take great pride in the fact that their country is built on defying Gods laws and freedom from God.

Built on equality, lucifers dream of us all being equal. But that’s not what the torah says is it?


But these America’s you compare me to, they don’t even respect their own satanic laws, you certainly can’t expect me to.


Their ruling clsss I watch abuse them and break all of the laws the founding fathers set, the courts don’t follow any of the founding laws whatsoever. then I watch the citizens not even care.


I geniunekly believe Americans are the ultimate shabbos goyim, no man with self respect or a love of God would be a part of a nation such as that. Truly a godless bunch of Satanists.

I’m a zionist Jew, I want to enslave the gentiles. No idea why you would compare me to Christian cattle. I respect my bloodlines and race, Christians obviously do not care about their own people nor do Americans. No idea why you think I would want to associate with either one of those groups.


Yes I do agree your courts are corrupt and abuse their citizens though, I agree this is a likely scenario for speaking out against corruption. It’s very obvious the ruling class in America have betrayed their constituents and Ethnic people.

I never in 20 years of playing earth ever posted a single thing about my private beliefs on the forum. That was the guy that I supposedly hate for being gay. (I’ve never had a beef with gay people by the way, a total lie by gonz0)

The rainbow is a historically Jewish symbol, it is cultural appropriation and anti-semetic to use it as a symbol for gay sex when that is forbidden under the law of Hashem the holy one of Israel.

Ahhh yes let me direct you to Isaiah 56:4

“For so says the Lord to the eunuchs who will keep My Sabbaths and will choose what I desire and hold fast to My covenant”

All I ask is that you quit attacking my religion and I will quit bringing it up.


You guys keep bringing it up (I never posted my beliefs here in decades Of playing)



Now every time I’m here you say these little subtle attacks against my religious beliefs and if I respond in any way I was banned from the forums.



How is this fair?


Maybe you should quit bringing it up?


I mean it’s obvious that you are upset you cannot force your religion of equality upon me


That’s why you and gonzo have a chip on your shoulder. I have done nothing to either of you and don’t even know who you are

Really looking forward to next set.

We’ll all be reminiscing… remember those good ole’ netting days…

Gonzo you are gaslighting. Your putting your desired perception in place of reality because reality doesn't yield desirable results. Everyone else sees the truth, lying to yourself is pointless.

You used speculative language such as "it seemed like Gerdler pushed" and "it may have also included others from LaF" but from that concluded "So admins did do the gameplay change Gerdler wanted". It's only improper if qz implemented the change to benefit a clan or as quid pro quo for someone to moderate the forums. Neither one of those happened. Pang started the development in 2019: https://www.earthempires.com/...gress-spec-47925/4#918776

I used to play with you on the team server and I remember it being fun. Can you do me a favor and stop pushing narratives like this? What is the actual, concrete problem here? What is it that the admin team could have done better?

You said that the changes came as a surprise. I don't know what the exact timing was, but maybe there wasn't enough advance notice of the changes. Sure, I can take that feedback. In a ideal world, for Alliance I think that we would give players at least a month of notice for major changes. I don't know what happened specifically in terms of the clan GDI rollout. Maybe qz ran into technical or other obstacles that resulted in him not being able to give as much notice as he would have liked.

Is there a demand that all game feedback to admins needs to be made publicly on these forums? I'm never going to agree with that. People on these forums are way too toxic. Some of the posters in this thread are practically unhinged. I'm not going to require that someone engage on these forums and to put up with that abuse just because they have an idea to improve the game.

What else?

Yes it's quite obvious, and clan GDI remains the only real answer for those who only want to net and not deal with those who just want to kill them for fun. Just let people play how they want. People's only real opposition to it was that it stops them from griefing whoever they want and it has no other negative side effects. IMO admins need to decide if they want to have organized griefing or not and act on it. Also most of the server supports it and finds the current setup to be stressful and not fun.

1.) There are three game admins right now. Two of them are available under the right circumstances but aren't active. We could decide to shut the game down tomorrow if we wanted to. That event would be effectively a permanent ban of every single player here. Just like any other website on the internet, this site is our private property. None of you have any guaranteed right to use our services.

2.) The game admins have absolute power due to the nature of how websites work. We can see and edit the data in the database. We can see and edit the game code. If you believe that the game admins are biased, corrupt, or engaging in other nefarious activity then I suggest that you find a different game that has admins that you feel that you can trust. It simply does not make sense for a player to participate in a rigged game.

3.) The game admins do not currently play on any clan-based servers. Even if they did so in the future, gameplay changes are not made to benefit or hurt any specific clan. Game and forum moderators do not have any special influence over gameplay changes. For better or worse, the attempted process for gameplay changes is a meritocracy: we try to take the best ideas from players and our own minds. If you have an idea for a gameplay change or even just a complaint, post it in the right place and an admin will read it.

4.) We do not make gameplay changes in response to players threatening to quit. The reason for this is simple: players often want different things. Player A could say that he will quit unless Clan GDI is enabled and player B could say that he will quit unless Clan GDI is disabled. It is impossible to satisfy both players.

5.) I am appreciative of the players who help keep this website through patron and premium running but it does not entitle you to have your demands met. Requests and suggestions from all players are treated equally. Patron status is a way to show support for the game and to get access to the Patron forum. That is all. It is not something that you can use to get a player banned, unbanned, or to get any kind of gameplay change made on your behalf.

6.) I have always been honest with this community. I have, by far, the most to lose by lying out of anyone here. I have no idea why some of you are so eager to believe every bad rumor, conspiracy theory, or piece of propaganda that you come across. I will give you a very direct hint: the players who deliberately stir up trouble against the game staff are lying to you. They have lied to you in the past and will lie to you in the future. They have nothing to lose by lying. Tricking you is a fun little game to them.

7.) The game on offer here is a text-based game where you play turns to grow your country. There is no other game on offer here. This includes activities such as harassing players or staff until they quit, working to expose "corruption", or any other conflict with the game staff. Moderators and administrators are neutral parties and are not in conflict with players. To be frank, think about how little sense that makes in the first place. If players are in conflict with the people who own the game then what is the winning condition for the players?

8.) My goal here is to create a fun gameplay experience for players. The game is here if you want to play it. If you don't want to play it, that's fine too. I don't view every player as a precious resource that must be protected at any costs. Some players do an extreme amount of harm to the community and game compared to the benefit provided by one additional active user.

9.) We've had the same rules posted since 2010: https://www.earthempires.com/rules . Some players have the idea that running multies is the worst possible offense and the only thing that they are not permitted to do. That is not true. I would also like to direct your attention to this line: "In extreme cases, such as hacking or breaking other laws, players may find themselves banned from all game related areas."

Yes. That is long dealt with :)
Now I have ran over another bunny :(

Gonzo - I'm sorry friend, but you're wrong about quite a few things.


I do play solo servers. I do not know milk personally. And I'm a reformed cheater, hence why I posted here and admitted to my sins!

We plan to create a new netgaining clan-based server tentatively named the Cooperation server. On this server, it is not possible to attack or to perform harmful spy ops on player countries. Countries will start with 99 turns, will gain 1 turn every 24 minutes, and can hold a maximum of 240 (480) turns.

Clans will use team-style restrictions with a maximum of 100 countries per tag. Players cannot spend turns if they are untagged. Players cannot drop their tag, self delete, or drop acres. Clan admins will have a configuration option that allows open access to the tag. New players could join a random tag which allows for clan joins without the tag password. NPC countries would use the latest code ("express style") and would not be able to get allies.

This game server will have a number of special rules:

* A tech point is worth 4 NW instead of 2 NW.

* Only SS attacks are permitted.
* Attacking military losses increase by 1% for every 2 attacks that have been performed over the full round. For example, if a country has performed 200 attacks then they could lose 100% of what they sent on an attack.
* Medical tech reduces attack military losses. The loss reduction is applied after the SS penalty is applied.
* Attacks do not provide ghost acres.
* The minimum acres per grab is 1 instead of 10.
* One barrel of oil will support 15 jets or tanks. Troops do not use oil.
* There are no humanitarians range restrictions.

* Research allies provide double the typical benefit to allied countries that have less than 10% of the TPT of the techer.
* Offensive ally military losses are impacted by their govt modifier, weapons tech, and medical tech.
* Offensive ally military losses are not impacted by the SS penalty for either country.
* FA packages cannot be sent.

* The daily spy op limit per country is 5.
* All information ops are allowed against other players.
* All types of ops are allowed against NPC countries.

The rule customizations attempt to drive late set public market demand, make landgrabbing an NPC country a meaningful and strategic choice, and to encourage players to tag up with like-minded players. A player could create their own tag and play by themself but they would be playing at a disadvantage. I'm not fully satisfied with the extra military loss mechanic and expect to replace it one day with a different system, but the loss mechanic system is relatively easy to create.

Please share any feedback or ideas that you have for the Cooperation server.

* Attacking military losses increase by 1% for every 2 attacks that have been performed over the full round. For example, if a country has performed 200 attacks then they could lose 100% of what they sent on an attack.
--> I don't know how I feel about this kind of limit. For example, in 1a, I've already done 200 attacks. Does this mean that after let's say, 25-30 days, I am basically done grabbing?

Wow. I'm so dumb.

Wow, can't believe it took me this long to figure that out.

Anyone got reckons on this?

Sorry, how does Evo fit into all this?

It's market intel. Seems reasonable to be part of market spy op.


Also,. there are tricks of transfering wealth from one country to another not using FA. ie( buyout medical tech then sell your tech for $9999 and have the people with money buy it.) By seeing the SOs you could then sell your tech at 8k and undercut their sale.

So eliminate successful ops being anonymous you mean?

You know the game has gone to shiat when multi-runners, confessed or not, are not banned from playing AND even still allowed to post on game forums. Must really be hurting for players.

Congrats, Drow!


Now that the cheaters and cheater-sympathizers are out of PDM, I have no ill will toward your members.

We can chat on discord, or we can make this super easy here. If you're interested, I'd like to sign a NAP with PDM. I see no reason for further bloodshed between our two groups.

And for the record, my group consists of me.... and that's it. No multis anymore, either! Making a pledge to the community to be done with those.

Well that noob blew up pot full of fluff soup and fart sandwiches right open.

You gotta hand it to him though cuz Milk went hard at Black Hole with a post in January that sent BH down a suiciding spiral in express and primary and tournament and he was silent on the boards for many weeks until he decided to pay Milk back for his scathing post and burned him and his pals to the ground.

Milks post was so good that a lot of us praised Milk for the BH tell all that he posted and now some people praise BH for his retaliation post and tell all that has shaken things so hard that even PDM made some changes.

To read the post click on lord milk profile and see his recent post and scroll down to Dec 18. That is the match that lit this powder keg.

I appreciate that some of you still have a sense of humor.

By my estimate, less than 20 players have been banned in this way. It is generally quite simple to avoid getting banned: don't do anything illegal and follow the game's terms of service. Why does anything else need to be said?

#215 has friends in PDM he says,
he started to spy attack me like a little crybaby.

I don't know BlackHole

btw i hate stupid suiciders so i'll probably start warring him

90 the country played honestly. She wrote an appeal. Please review.

We’re both liberals... roe v wade...I got a vasectomy...the Supreme Court got set back 200 years.

She dates other guys...

I don’t think either of us wants to be married or have children during a global climate crisis....the end times.

Trump ...I’ll probably kill myself.

smoking weed...while never leaving my bedroom.
I just hope she loves me back...
...in a world that has always made me want to kill myself.

I’m sure it’s probably some LaF hunting going on

Dance puppets!

This thread getting locked / deleted is something that I would totally support.

What's your point?

On the fence i guess lol



Thanks for the history lesson, what's your point? Because if i use your logic then I can generalize any and every country, there's a reason i despise leftists, hint hint, Peron who's administration is idolized by the left in this country, they even made a movie called "Evita" so..... yeah pretty disgusting, I'm sure you don't even know the murders and vanishing of people that opposed that Peron dictatorship, but somehow we are all Nazis now, lol, shows your ignorance.

You clearly haven't been able to read all this time either. No clan is safe.
PDM is next. LaF is on the list, all of them are on them list.

Question.....are you all millennials? And by all i mean the race debaters...

Isn't that kinda hate speech?

"You like cutting grass Orkin, it's like your thing"

Leto is now doubling down in Discord right now

we are getting spied now. We may just have to kill every untagged on the server.