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roksilver Game profile

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Mar 19th 2012, 20:56:34

what is ideal tax rate? i'm sure someone crunched the numbers.

Marshal Game profile

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Mar 19th 2012, 21:28:41

35 to casher and 36 to others.

lower tax% more pop but less income, higher tax% slighly less pop bute more income.
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Xinhuan Game profile

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Mar 20th 2012, 1:41:48

It is 35% if you assume population eat 0 food per turn (differentiation of revenue formula and equate to 0 and find tax%).

Otherwise it varies between 34% to 35% depending on food price on the market. With food about $40 it is closer to 34.5%.

Just leave it at 35% and save the trouble.

Marshal Game profile

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Mar 20th 2012, 17:37:31

36% is default.
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Mar 22nd 2012, 2:57:43

35 is default
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Mar 22nd 2012, 5:46:48

lol.. you guys making this dude confused...

Roksilver,make it 100% lol...joke..i set mine 35% fasc farmer strat..its up to you but dont based it like mine coz im just a noob man...hehehe
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Mar 22nd 2012, 6:10:07

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Detmer Game profile

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Mar 25th 2012, 3:12:52

I am shocked by the amount of misinformation in this thread, particularly from Xinhuan =P

35% is the default tax rate and it is the default tax rate because it is the best most of the time, independent of how you set up your country. There are circumstances where it can make sense to alter your tax rate and as the round progresses those changes will generally be to raise your tax rate, if necessary.

Marshal Game profile

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Mar 25th 2012, 16:13:24

at beginning or end its quite often to play 1+ turns with higher tax%, not too many at beginning or you lose too much pop.
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Xinhuan Game profile

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Mar 26th 2012, 1:08:47

Originally posted by Detmer:
I am shocked by the amount of misinformation in this thread, particularly from Xinhuan =P

35% is the default tax rate and it is the default tax rate because it is the best most of the time, independent of how you set up your country. There are circumstances where it can make sense to alter your tax rate and as the round progresses those changes will generally be to raise your tax rate, if necessary.


But what you said doesn't contradict what I said. The ideal tax rate only depends on one thing - the market food price - and that is independent of how you set up your country.

There are obviously valid situations when you want to raise or lower taxes (such as first 100 turns, or when you are being killed), but those are exceptional situations, and aren't "ideal".

Mathematics doesn't lie, and given everything else is a constant (i.e your pop isn't changing every turn), the ideal is 35% if ignoring food upkeep and price.

Detmer Game profile

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Mar 26th 2012, 3:16:39

As food prices go up you want to increase tax rate, not decrease it to 34%. You said the ideal tax rate varies between 34 and 35% which is not true.

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Mar 27th 2012, 0:17:36

You're a democrat, Detmer.
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Mar 27th 2012, 18:12:55

If you have it around 35% you'll be ok. If you want to nerd out and build a spreadsheet for it I'm sure you can find an 'optimal' tax rate for every turn you spend... Do you want to change your tax rate often? If not KISS and just leave it at 35 or 36% depending on your country :p

Detmer Game profile

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Mar 27th 2012, 22:04:45

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
You're a democrat, Detmer.


I am not a conservative ergo I am not a democrat.

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Mar 28th 2012, 2:54:41

LOL! im being sarcastic, Bro! ;)
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JJ23 Game profile

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Mar 28th 2012, 7:59:56

35 never fails for me.
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PeaceMaker

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Apr 1st 2012, 0:20:09

I have mine at 37% 0.o Then again I'm building like 500+ Res. to keep my pop from going into red. But I'm getting 100k+ every turn and I'm building at least 700+ farms to keep up, well then again ima farmer, so if you were to raise tax rate you'd still have to build 100+ Res. To keep pop up then 80-120+ farms to keep production up too. Then that all changes depending on your country and strat. But you get my point... I hope.

Edited By: PeaceMaker on Apr 1st 2012, 0:26:07. Reason: I fogot something
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JJ23 Game profile

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Apr 1st 2012, 3:01:51

if you are building residences and farms at the same time, you are failing.
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PeaceMaker

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Apr 1st 2012, 3:53:51

No no no its like maybe 1k farms 200-400 Res. In that order but it takes while so in that 1k farms I build 200 Res. Lol every turn I'm getting 300+ people which ia spiking my income up quite a bit, if i wanted to build ezs that would be even better, but I'm not a casher, ima farmer. :-)
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Xinhuan Game profile

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Apr 1st 2012, 4:31:08

Originally posted by Detmer:
As food prices go up you want to increase tax rate, not decrease it to 34%. You said the ideal tax rate varies between 34 and 35% which is not true.


Originally posted by Requiem:
If you have it around 35% you'll be ok. If you want to nerd out and build a spreadsheet for it I'm sure you can find an 'optimal' tax rate for every turn you spend... Do you want to change your tax rate often? If not KISS and just leave it at 35 or 36% depending on your country :p


I probably have it typoed, I meant to say between 35-36% rather than 34-35%. :)

Detmer Game profile

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Apr 1st 2012, 4:34:27

Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Originally posted by Detmer:
As food prices go up you want to increase tax rate, not decrease it to 34%. You said the ideal tax rate varies between 34 and 35% which is not true.


Originally posted by Requiem:
If you have it around 35% you'll be ok. If you want to nerd out and build a spreadsheet for it I'm sure you can find an 'optimal' tax rate for every turn you spend... Do you want to change your tax rate often? If not KISS and just leave it at 35 or 36% depending on your country :p


I probably have it typoed, I meant to say between 35-36% rather than 34-35%. :)


Fair enough.

caffeineaddict Game profile

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Apr 1st 2012, 9:41:00

If you'tr a farmer then you should have 0 res and 0 ent. Sell bushels to fund your turns. Even at $29 on the private market you will be more efficient and get more cash than if you build ent and res

rableniver Game profile

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Jul 24th 2012, 1:46:48

Well, if youre trying to maximize revenue, I've found that 53% seems to be the best.

EDIT: Ignore that, I just did the calculations with a varying PCI value, and it comes out to 35% most of the time.

Edited By: rableniver on Jul 30th 2012, 6:50:53
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cooper49 Game profile

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Aug 7th 2012, 2:13:46

so the best rate is 35% in a rep-casher. i haven't played in a long time but i used like 40% and hit 2,000,000 dollars a turn.

afaik Game profile

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Aug 7th 2012, 10:31:24

casher or farmer 35%, otherwise 36%... howzat for a rule o thumb?

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Aug 8th 2012, 20:53:41

Originally posted by Detmer:
Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
You're a democrat, Detmer.


I am not a conservative ergo I am not a democrat.
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skee Game profile

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Aug 9th 2012, 15:47:23

if you're going to believe anyone... believe afaik? I'll go with that

qwertyh Game profile

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Aug 10th 2012, 0:13:48

35-36% is ideal unless you are playing Tyranny then its 37-38%.

jeffmacin Game profile

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Sep 4th 2012, 19:18:49

I use 35% for Rep Casher.

Heuvelbr Game profile

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Sep 4th 2012, 22:55:50

Sometimes I go down to 30% to get more population. Perhaps it was good I read this forum

Marshal Game profile

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Sep 5th 2012, 12:34:52

only reason to lower tax% is to gain population back after gs or br attacks (latter helps too if isn't casher).
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bellyjagger Game profile

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Sep 27th 2012, 23:32:52

So 40% is not that good?

Marshal Game profile

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Sep 28th 2012, 13:02:14

not unless bushels price is high and you don't want to spend so much money to bushels as a casher.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

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