nicely done... now my set is ruined...

happy now?

yep. this is the first post ive made on these forums. and im glad its for a good reason.
your claim of a topfeed was bs, and ur refusual to contact us at all before being all macho and taking a double tap as a retal does not sit well. hence, ive left your country in ruins.

stop trying to throw ur fat ass around the server and u might avoid this kinda thing in the future ;-)

I'm just looking at the news, but you hit a guy with 170% of your land. Even if an alliance doesn't go by topfeed rules, that's a bit extreme. I'm not a huge fan of the topfeed retals, but it seems to be the typical rule on team these days.

Unfortunately, people randomly suiciding after retals seems to be the typical thing as well. =/

#74 hasn't done anything all set to rag. Is rag a spamtag/suicide tag nowadays?

what was the NW difference like?

bloke should get more defence lol.

The two countries had similar networths when the attack was made, if you want to go low defense, every attack would technically be a topfeed.

ETFT has multitapped Ragnarok on multiple resets now even though we avoided you guys. If you guys want to try to bully us around, we'll hit back. Revenge is more important than ending networth to us. You guys have been trying to push your weight on us for too long.

I still don't think that's a valid reason for suiciding.

Whatever the retal policy differences was, you could always retal first, or do FA contact.

ETFT never made any FA attempt before overretalling this set, nor did they ever bother contacting Ragnarok when they multi tapped us in the past.

#74 sent a ingame message to a Ragnarok member supporting his tag member and mentioned something about a conflict in the future sets between the two tags. It would have been stupid to wait for him to attack first, if ETFT already indicated they supported their members actions.

Well, ETFT doesn't condone farming and half of our members are all-x every set. We're probably one of the least pushy teams on this server. If we hit someone, we tend to follow their retal policies. No arguments, no mess.

To help jog your memory, here's ALL of the hits we've made on Rag tags in the last SIX months prior to the retal that somehow made your whole team suicide on us.

2010-12-20 17:41:00 PS timetimetime (#13) ETFT 1egs e1even (#103) Ragnarok 490A (961A)


2010-11-23 07:27:24 PS Buttman and Throbbin (#33) ETFT ghost (#60) Rag2 363A (720A)


2010-11-27 23:19:38 PS KWA (#110) Ragnarok Salt n Pepper (#100) ETFT DH

2010-11-26 15:29:18 PS Salt n Pepper (#100) ETFT Snakeye (#12) Ragnarok 1704A (2800A)


Oh wow, three whole hits, in 6 months all on different tags. No wonder you hate us. I guess you did retal once and fail, so that might leave you angry. Then when one of our members tries to contact you for FA, you decide to suicide the rest of the team because we're obviously unhappy that we were suicided on to begin with?

Seriously, grow up. We've never pushed you around, that's not our style. If you want to make up lies, they should at least have some semblance of truth so that people can be fooled into believing them.

2010-11-27 23:19:38 PS KWA (#110) Ragnarok Salt n Pepper (#100) ETFT DH

that one's actually a hit on ETFT nub :p

here's some missed from last month alone :)

2011-02-20 22:57:14 PS valentines day massacre (#61) ETFT Strange Famous (#8) Ragnarok 1462A (2197A)

2011-03-03 08:53:48 PS You Sank My Battleship (#114) ETFT Strange Famous (#8) Ragnarok 904A (1700A)

End of the day, you double retalled, a seperate member sent a message indicating support for the guy that double retalled to a seperate country. That implied support meant a threat, so there was no point is us waiting.

@diez I didn't say it was only the hits we made, so ha! Plus, I only counted three. That one was to demonstrate that retals were made... kind of.

@BM My apologies. I thought the first month on eestats was the current month and skipped it. So that almost doubles our hits to less than one a month! with zero multi-taps!

Well, end of day, you have no FA contact listed in the forums; you don't even list your team in the team thread. So our member sought contact with your largest member in game because we figured he was the most active. Of course we support our retal policy. It's L:L on 133% land hits. If you had a posted contact, we would've given you a heads up as we've done with every other tag, but since you didn't have any, we sent messages and used our policy.

Why complain about lack of FA when you hit us first and then act like fluffs when we try to contact you. Or is it that you want everyone to follow your precedent to disregard FA and just AB when you don't like retals?

and i asked on our boards first if i could retal twice and our FA tried to contact you but you've got no contacts posted so we impose our retal policy for top feeds...

i am always an all-x fan and only retalled the top feed against my country...

I think they have allways been that way.

As a rule of thumb it only takes two grabs for a defender to recover their land from an attacker who started at half their land...

As was the case here, Detmer. Additionally, the attacker still gained land from the ghost acres, so I'm not sure why they went crazy and suicided us.

yeah... i only did 2 retals and then they suicided us...

Detmer those stats were based across all server resets. It was only 2 hits

Detmer those stats were based across all server resets. It was only 2 hits

lol... now you're trying to do a KR on my country?