Was surprised to see your team back up #91 after what he did. Here is the news.

Sep 21/11 3:22:56 PM PS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 270 A (+284 A)
Sep 21/11 3:23:00 PM PS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 255 A (+274 A)
Sep 21/11 3:23:04 PM PS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 214 A (+170 A)
Sep 21/11 3:23:08 PM PS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 205 A (+164 A)
Sep 21/11 3:23:17 PM SS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) Defence Held
Sep 21/11 3:23:25 PM SS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 95 A (+42 A)
Sep 21/11 3:23:29 PM SS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 70 A (+20 A)
Sep 21/11 3:23:33 PM SS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 69 A (+20 A)
Sep 21/11 3:23:36 PM SS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 32 A (+3 A)
Sep 21/11 3:26:35 PM SS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) The West Side (#14) (WTC) Defence Held
Sep 21/11 3:29:19 PM PS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) The West Side (#14) (WTC) 336 A (+278 A)
Sep 22/11 11:51:01 AM PS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) Optimus Prime (#96) (WTC) 603 A (+345 A)

So he farms us pretty good, I take a retal:

Sep 22/11 6:55:53 PM PS oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) 734 A (+323 A)

I send him a message explaining the retal and he responds with "LOL" and ABs me a bit and then (tries) to farm me some more.

Sep 23/11 12:18:08 AM SS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) Defence Held
Sep 23/11 12:18:16 AM SS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) Defence Held
Sep 23/11 12:18:26 AM SS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) Defence Held
Sep 23/11 12:19:20 AM SS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 78 A (+19 A)
Sep 23/11 12:19:24 AM SS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 34 A (+3 A)
Sep 23/11 12:21:39 AM AB Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 96 B
Sep 23/11 12:21:41 AM AB Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 95 B
Sep 23/11 12:21:41 AM AB Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 95 B
Sep 23/11 12:21:42 AM AB Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 93 B
Sep 23/11 12:21:43 AM AB Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 91 B
Sep 23/11 12:21:44 AM AB Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 88 B
Sep 23/11 12:21:44 AM AB Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 90 B
Sep 23/11 12:21:45 AM AB Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 86 B
Sep 23/11 12:21:46 AM AB Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 85 B
Sep 23/11 12:21:47 AM AB Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 83 B
Sep 23/11 12:21:48 AM AB Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 81 B
Sep 23/11 12:21:50 AM AB Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 79 B
Sep 23/11 12:21:51 AM AB Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 77 B
Sep 23/11 12:21:53 AM AB Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 75 B
Sep 23/11 12:22:31 AM AB Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 74 B

We start saving turns to kill this asshole and he farms us some more:

Sep 23/11 12:25:56 AM PS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) DaysofConfusion (#80) (WTC) 234 A (+252 A)
Sep 23/11 12:26:00 AM PS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) DaysofConfusion (#80) (WTC) 222 A (+243 A)
Sep 24/11 12:22:52 AM PS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 239 A (+218 A)
Sep 24/11 12:23:25 AM PS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 227 A (+210 A)
Sep 24/11 12:23:30 AM PS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 216 A (+201 A)
Sep 24/11 12:24:12 AM PS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 178 A (+125 A)
Sep 24/11 12:24:46 AM PS Death by Diplomatics (#91) (DBD2) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 170 A (+121 A)


And then we killed him. Woke up this morning and saw DBD, and its 6 teams, banded together to start killing our countries. Most clans I've played in its farm at your own risk. This guy decides to farm a team with 5 players and you back him up when he gets what is coming to him?

And you wonder why this game is lame/dying? Down to a few hundred players? It's assholes like you, DBD, assholes like you.

and in case you're wondering why #30 got ABd here it is:

Sep 21/11 10:54:13 PM PS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) DaysofConfusion (#80) (WTC) 129 A (+129 A)
Sep 21/11 10:55:13 PM PS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) DaysofConfusion (#80) (WTC) 122 A (+127 A)
Sep 21/11 10:55:49 PM PS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) DaysofConfusion (#80) (WTC) 117 A (+125 A)
Sep 21/11 10:56:02 PM PS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) DaysofConfusion (#80) (WTC) 99 A (+78 A)
Sep 21/11 10:56:14 PM PS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) DaysofConfusion (#80) (WTC) 96 A (+76 A)

We try to take a legit retal:

Sep 21/11 11:56:37 PM PS Optimus Prime (#96) (WTC) Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) 645 A (+300 A)

He comes back with ROR and more farming:

Sep 22/11 7:20:21 PM SS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 283 A (+192 A)
Sep 22/11 7:20:44 PM SS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 258 A (+180 A)
Sep 22/11 7:20:57 PM SS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 234 A (+169 A)
Sep 22/11 7:21:07 PM SS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 177 A (+102 A)
Sep 22/11 7:21:16 PM SS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) oOOoOoOOoO (#33) (WTC) 165 A (+97 A)
Sep 22/11 7:22:29 PM PS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) Optimus Prime (#96) (WTC) 478 A (+274 A)
Sep 22/11 7:23:33 PM SS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) Optimus Prime (#96) (WTC) 198 A (+99 A)
Sep 22/11 7:23:54 PM PS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) Optimus Prime (#96) (WTC) 282 A (+142 A)
Sep 23/11 8:09:14 AM PS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) The West Side (#14) (WTC) 254 A (+246 A)
Sep 23/11 9:43:00 PM SS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) Optimus Prime (#96) (WTC) 183 A (+161 A)
Sep 23/11 9:43:18 PM SS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) Optimus Prime (#96) (WTC) 154 A (+102 A)
Sep 23/11 9:43:34 PM SS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) Optimus Prime (#96) (WTC) 150 A (+101 A)
Sep 23/11 9:43:54 PM SS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) Optimus Prime (#96) (WTC) 103 A (+40 A)
Sep 23/11 9:44:04 PM SS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) Optimus Prime (#96) (WTC) 101 A (+40 A)
Sep 24/11 8:43:24 AM PS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) DaysofConfusion (#80) (WTC) 186 A (+235 A)
Sep 24/11 8:43:41 AM PS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) DaysofConfusion (#80) (WTC) 159 A (+147 A)
Sep 24/11 8:43:54 AM PS Death by Dirty Dancing (#30) (DBD3) DaysofConfusion (#80) (WTC) 154 A (+145 A)

Please explain yourself DBD, why do you protect players who decide to farm other players?

Because MKR needs to learn that policy is defined by those with the might to enforce it?

these kinds of stuffs is the ones that gets you suicided on.

I don't speak for DBD.

Only reason I could think that this would happen, and this is just guessing.

WTC was not announced as any tag, and maybe DBD thought that WTC was a suicide team on them?

All I can think of.

Kwimi, Your hippo tag is rather good :(

stop trying to hide behind a different tag and maybe this wouldnt happen?

maybe they wouldnt have farmed it if they knew it was MKR. or maybe they knew it was MKR and figured the only reason you are running under this tag is so you can suicide them later in the set and do more damage?

think that WTC and Wutang have link?

*taps nose*

WuTang caused us hassle, so we killed it.

We figued WTC is connected to WuTang so we farmed it. It started hitting back and now we are killing it too.

There you go. :)

/ViLSE
DBD

Oh and we dont have 6 teams, we have 5. And two of those are not full at the moment. :)

There are too many post to quote so I will address them one time.

Vilse when you assume you make ass out of you and me!

Pain Get a life...WTC had one commie to enforce retals and the rest were running netting strats. Sounds like a suicide preparation then you havnt played long enough.

Now3P seem to be thinking with that think he writes with.

This kind of thread is great for server growth! Thugs keep up the thug work pretty soon you guys can thug yourself!

Well its not a strange assumption for us to make since the teams seemed related and one already had caused us problems so we decided to put the other one up as a "non friendly" team.

Had WuTang left us alone we would have left it alone and WTC as well.

But to be fair to you it might have been a bit excessive to put WTC under the same bracket as WuTang but we didnt want to take that risk this round (as we were not sure who was running it), and in hindsight I am able to admit that perhaps we made a mistake there that entirely "nice". If you want to give it another go next round give me a shout and we can wipe the slate clean and we will leave you guys alone.

I am perfectly willing to be civil to any new team on this server provided that they dont try and pull stunts on us. This has worked out perfectly fine with all other teams (feel free to ask around, most will probably tell you that if there are issues Im fine with working them out). Funny that it is always you MKR lot that seems to cause problems but surely thats just my imagination?... :-)

/ViLSE
DBD

Let’s look at the facts shall we?
Fact, MKR is a self proclaimed “warring tag” that will “deal with retals as they see fit”(refer to http://forums.earthempires.com/SeePost.php?postid=196256 if unclear as to what I am talking about.)
Fact, MKR had 2 teams last set.
Fact, there are no MKR teams this set.
Fact, the last 2 sets that MKR wasn’t killed they caused DBD problems.
Fact, Wu-Tang is named after Wu-Tang Clan.
Fact, W T C are the first letters of each syllable of Wu-Tang Clan.
Fact, Wu-Tang caused DBD problems.

Now let’s take the facts and apply a small amount of deductive reasoning.
WTC also stands for Wu-Tang Clan.
Wu-Tangs 2 teams are really MKR hiding under false tags.
MKR plans on causing DBD grief again.

That’s not a very far stretch. Anyone think otherwise?

If you try to hide who you are, you cause susspision. That then is dealt with, and handled differntly.

IF you are going to hide, you do end up having consequences.

That is all I have to say on it. And in no way am I defending DBD, or MKR. I'm just suggesting if you are hiding to "start anew" announce it, or talk to someone so there is an attempt of peace.

netters make the best suiciders. every country is a netter until the attack someone.

the point still remains you guys hid behind different tags and did not announce it. ANYONE would find your motives suspicious.

if you change the tag because you didnt want to carry on issues of past sets, that was the wrong way to go about it. if you didnt change tags for that reason, then im correct in stating you planned on causing trouble.

i cant be sure but i would almost bet if you went to DBD and asked to sqaush the beef they would oblige you.

personally i think you guys just like to cause trouble and then like to complain when it backfires on you.

We didnt want to play mkr cuz we wanted a chance to net and last set when we tagged mkr fbi farmed us out the gates and went throught t heir self-dr antics so we couldnt retal.

This set a few guys from dbd think its a good idea to farm a full 5 man retal-capable tag. We took retals but they ror and ab us for that. You would hope dbd woild step back and look at the situation before sebding their 30 some players after a team of 5 trying to peacefully net.

And no wutang is unrelated to mkr so that little assumption was dead wrong.

Is thag how you play dbd? Farm ayg tag you dont recognize amd then kill it when it stands up to the few assholes who werent playing by anywhwre close to an equitable standard?

We werent givimg you any trouble lookbat the news ffs

wutang is unrelated to MKR yet all the MKR players are int he wutang tags, and the MKR tags no longer exist? is that really your arguement? lol

And btw mkr is down to just 5 players who had any interesf in trying to continue play here. My guess ia that will be going down to 0 next set.

We tried to play a single netting team with retallers etc and you just farm/ror/ab us. Its not about what you can enforce or not its about trying to,at a minimim, create a gaming atmosphere in which people can enjoy participating.

Ur chronology is off buddy. We were getting farmes by 30 and 91 way before wutang gave you any trouble.

Next time dont backup countries that farm a full 5 man team - or any ctry for that matter.

the point still remains, you made 2 tags and did not announce any motives on team talk. since it was obvious you guys were ex MKR the only thing that makes sense for you to hide is so you can suprise attack.

look at the fist. weve been fighting them for a few sets. this set they told us they wanted to net, and aside from tardoma we havent really exchanged any hits with fist and there are no issues. all because they came to us to squash the beef.

see how easy that is?

why dont you contact vilse or someone from DBD and ask if you guys can start over and try to get along from here on out.

Well we first killed the WuTang clan and it was first after that we put WTC on the farm status. But to be fair you might be right that we had done a few LGs before then, I have not checked.

But from our side we first killed WuTang for acting up (farming one of the DBD countries) and THEN we put WTC on farm status for being suspect (again I can admit that this might have been too harsh but what is done is done).

WCT actually meant World Trade Center in honor of 9/11.

I didnt realize we must register our tag names. I guess that would have to go for country names as well...hmm so if I use DarkBrownDung then I would be considered DBD.


So DBD thug the server to death.

I have had heard whispers of players wanting a fair 1 vs 1. Not just from the little guys, but in the big boy clans too. Or even in your case if MKR has two tags then 2 vs 2. I'm pretty sure if you make a post asking for a even fight for next set, someone will step up.

I set up a 1 vs 1 a couple of sets ago. (i will also say, we contacted everyone and made a post on TT of our intentions....we were left alone by everyone...except one LG from MKR) Yeah, the 1 vs 1 was maybe a bit boring cause it lacked smack talking or bad blood cause it was a arranged war. But it sure showed who was more skilled.

I don't speak for DBD, I'm just a Head of Smurfs (and I'm the only smurf). But I'd be willing to 1 vs 1 againist anyone.

Well in that case Tross we made an assumption that was incorrect.

We simply lumped WTC together with WuTang it seemed logical to us, but perhaps it wasnt.

Tross, again youre skirting the facts. you dont have to register your names. however if you dont want people to assume you have bad intentions seeing as nothign was resolved last set, it makes sense to come to the people who you had an issue with and let them know you dont mean to harm them and would like to play without issues.

you just proved us right in assuming that wutang and WTC are part of the same alliance though.

you could try to fix things with past enemies. or you can continue to cry when you get killed by them for looking suspect. up to you really.

wait...didn't MKR & Co. FS WOG/FBI last set? And now y'all are crying about not getting left to net in peace?

There are tag announcement threads for a reason. MKR knows this full well - you guys set yourselves up to fail.....again.

We participated in an arranged war. I spoke with ZEN about it before the set. Then some guys from FBI started beating their chests, calling us out on the forums, and it wasn't a "fun" arranged war anymore so we quit for the rest of the set.

It's one thing if you, DBD, suspected WTC was MKR. It's another to assume we were planning on doing anything against your clan (couldn't you tell from our ops we weren't war prepping? LOL?). It's completely different all together that you would farm/kill a team just because you don't know who they are.

It's no surprise no new players come play this game. Between DBD farming everybody on Team and LaF farming everybody on Alliance.

I know a lot of you alliance guys see team as the "wild west" and do whatever you please, but there are some rules I believe should be followed to allow new players/teams to come into the game. The first and foremost being don't back up your clanmate when they farm/ROR/AB an entire team. As long as I've played this game, that has been a big no-no, clans do not help enforce when a player gets out of line like that...

Monex, lets include some game theory to your analysis. If we were trying to be incognito/undercover, would we really pick two tags appearing to be so obviously related?!

Quite a coincedence that this new tag "wuTang" shows up this set, but they have nothing to do with MKR. Like I said, we had 2 tags last set, but half those guys left to "take some time off" team.

We were down to 5 players and we wanted to see if we could support a 5 man team to a good netting finish. However, that is impossible when you get put to Farm/Kill status by DBD for no reason other than that they thought we were going to hurt them?

nice to see that WoG and FBI are not being accused of being the bullies this time :)

Its a good thing that we pacted everyone we "picked on" last few sets so they could netgain and WoG good netgain for a change.

I would like to announce again that WoG will be heading towards a more greener earthly tree hugger direction.

Just dont bug us and we wont bug you :)

Also just for the record we do not "backup" guys that retal with ABs and missles. FBI and WoG let 2 guys deaths go as we deemed it was their own fault that they died.

*crawls up his tree to hide from LordSlayer and ZEN*

Kwmi,

I have a somewhat busy schedule this week, but if you could send me a PM on the forums, there are a few things I'd like to chat about.

Please take me up on this offer.

and I consider this a little wild west, but I don't play alliance. Too many rules:P

Hit me up though, we should talk.

Perhaps you ought to re-examine the server statistics before drawing a conclusion like that?

It's ok though - keep complaining, I do need farm land this set after all.

Now3p You should really check our site:)

bah!

I'm too lazy?

Well as I said kwmi perhaps we over-did it a bit this round, but my offer stands for the future if you want it just drop me a message and I will make sure you are left alone so you can grow or do whatever you want.

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Wutang is not mkr! We had WTC this set thats all. Vilse thanks for admitting to making a stinky assumption about our intentions. But i think if you had just looked at the news you could have seen we were not the aggressors!

Mb we will be back next set to try it again we will try a more unique tag this time around so as to not be confused with suiciders?

kwmi why dont you just post up which tags you are and what your intentions are. im sure everyone will let you play in peace.

i agree pain.

every team here heas the right to live peaceabley by comon rules if they posted there tags and there intentions im sure it wouldnt of been a big problem

also note DBD is hard to get ahold of and has no stated retal policy :P

dLpLow: Nah we are not that hard to get a hold of, just leave me a message here and I will get back to whomever needs it.

But kwmi you may well be right, we might have made a stinky assumption there and Ill make sure we stay away from you next round as far as is possible to let you want. I want more competition in the netting department anyway and I am sure others want more wars to fight too.

ViLSE i just think whats going on here is a complete lack of communicATong on aLL PARTS....lol at least DBD and LORDS use the same tags every set so there no confusion.......but eh to each there own

Funny how everyone says what MKR should do but cant control who they lead!

This kindergarten session is over!

A problem has just been created!

MKR had policies that were fair and not one sided! MKR always tried to negotiate or compromise most of the time. Heck we even tried to make friends.

I am no longer to be associated with MKR from this post on!

L:L in all situations is certainly a fair policy....