I was horrified to see in the attacking news how much you guys have been hit by PDM (I am currently on a business trip--well I was, now I'm just stuck here). I was considering putting you on DNH as a courtesy, but I see you've been doing some decent retalling. But I do not think you are retalling all the hits you could. If you want my clan of degenerates to stop hitting you, please hit them back hard (legitimately, of course).

Escalating retals would be accepted in this case (1:1,2:3,3:6,4:10).

If you would like to discuss a cessation or percolation of attacks, shoot me a forum message and we'll talk. If you want to have some fun and see if you can catch up in retals, carry on. :)

Either way, you have my apologies.

YOU'RE A DEGENERATE!

Dude, when I do country searches all I get back is 10-12 RAGE countries, I've had to stop hitting them so I don't do over 3 in a 72 hour window. No RAGE, no landgrabbing.

the only reason I *haven't* put them on DNH already is because if I did, thatguy would have no one to attack. ;)

see how thoughtful i am?

aww, thanks man!

Wasn't it just last set PDM couldn't retal? Oh how things have changed.

They're in a reunion set. And I see Bodyman brought this to your attention :)

It gets brutal out there if you don't have a few guys with some jets.

i tried getting in contact with PDmers but have been struggling to get on to anyone, partly due to my own rl business, and partly due to non-responsive PDM.

It's been well documented we've been having some problems this set due to estats dieing and us needing to quickly shift to boxcar, and how this has affected the clan.

Prob in your best interest if someone gets onto me asap, as we are slowly recovering, and i take it you guys want to net this set?:p

msn:

Will need to indicate that your not some pr0n spammer plz.

I don't see any retals by RAGE in the news, just hits on random PDM countries.

I've mostly been hitting RAGE countries that have been hitting PDM.

Instead of retalling attacks against them, they seem to be attacking other random PDM countries, and then getting retalled for it.

Sucks about ES, but PDM used it as it's Primary site as well and had to switch to Boxcar.


At least we are generating Ghost Acres... right.... ? Am I right?

yeah, massive amounts of ghost acres, to the point where i don't think anyone on either side has actually come out anything worse than about parity..

Maybe we should start an organised ghost acre generation pact...?

Who started the lg-fest? Damnit, I will have to examine the news more closely when I get back.

<--- PDM Degenerate as well

I swear it wasnt me

<- PDM Degenerate turned RAGEr ;)


LIES STRIFE

I dunno who started it but I'd be willing to stop if you stop hitting us :)

the earliest news I saw was a grab by PDM that rage retalled, which was promptly followed by a rage triple tap...
dragz: our contacts are listed on the contacts thread... as for ES dying, we were in the same boat. our boxcar site wasn't even properly set up... it was used for target searching and bugger all else prettu much.

same here...

Apr/13/10 9:33:58 PS Stormreavers (#307) (PDM50) Four Sharpie Surprise (#342) (Rage) 1345 A 1845 A
Apr/12/10 20:13:48 PS Legacy of Ashes (#339) (PDM50) Kingdom of Roldrem (#99) (Rage) 817 A 1203 A
Apr/12/10 5:08:55 PS 800 lb irregularly shaped object (#587) (PDM50) Wrath of Dragon (#500) (Rage) 1031 A 1235 A


PDM started it with 3 PDM countries PSing 3 Rage countries.


Apr/13/10 18:45:18 PS Kingdom of Roldrem (#99) (Rage) Legacy of Ashes (#339) (PDM50) 780 A 1109 A
Apr/13/10 15:26:44 PS Four Sharpie Surprise (#342) (Rage) Stormreavers (#307) (PDM50) 811 A 1189 A


Rage retals...


Apr/14/10 22:58:52 PS MicroteK (#70) (PDM50) Wrath of Beast (#216) (Rage) 265 A 573 A
Apr/13/10 22:39:44 SS MicroteK (#70) (PDM50) Kingdom of Roldrem (#99) (Rage) 218 A 405 A


PDM LGs Rage some more...


Apr/15/10 19:29:13 SS Four Sharpie Surprise (#342) (Rage) Can I Haz Muffins (#62) (PDM50) 439 A 717 A
Apr/15/10 19:28:10 SS Four Sharpie Surprise (#342) (Rage) PaljuOnne (#303) (PDM50) 352 A 591 A
Apr/15/10 19:28:08 SS Four Sharpie Surprise (#342) (Rage) PaljuOnne (#303) (PDM50) 407 A 668 A


Rage LGs unrelated PDM countries...



and it pretty much goes on from there.

So now RAGE is retalling with ABs and missiles?

Are you serious?

I guess it'll have to be a AB CS instead of a AB FS!

what do you expect? Rage to bend over and say, here's our land, enjoy, do you need a napkin with that? Would you like fries with that?

No. I was expecting retals. I was also expecting the guy who ABed a bunch of people would choose people who actually attacked him.

Just like the kill chat you had set up last set for a country you couldn't retal?

This is almost as funny as black people calling each other fluff and would pull a gun on a person that's non-black that tries to use that word.

You mean the kill chat we set up on the guy who was farming us along with 2 other clans that ended up killing him first?

No, not like that. Rage has had some very good retals, so saying they can't retal is naive. Even being disorganized due to ES going down, they are still doing a good job. I am actually surprised they haven't taken more retals.

As a matter of fact, I made this post to kind of urge them to take retals, not complicate things by ABing to hell and back. If you retal properly, they'll stop attacking.

Rage leaders, please send me a message via these forums and we'll talk about it, unless you can catch me on msn or icq. My time on the messenger apps will be limited until I get back home, which should be on Wednesday.

Otherwise, the best way to get ahold of me is via insite in the forums or insite in Boxcar ( Paradigm\The Arabian Nightmare {VP} )

More like you are MOCKING them.

What they decide to do for PDM's obvious stance in farming them, is their own problem.

Heck, who runs a reunion set and then goes to topfeed people?

If I am mocking them, it is unintentional, and apologies to them if they take it that way.

there are no untagged targets to hit.

every unpacted clan is capable of retalling.. except for rage.

pdmers are choosing to hit a clan with plenty of land who can't retal and has no relation to us.

go figure..

get some jet's rage.

In my opinion RAGE should know that ABing and missling countries is against alliance rules,

take me for example, I got double tapped by a country and i'm not building up tanks to ABing since I can't retal him

you guys are alliance, so use alliance resources and give aid packages to some retalers to break countries that are farming you. If PDM and other countries see that you are retaling the attacks will lessen and you'll probably make out with more land through ghost acres (I sure did on my retal this afternoon on another country)

I expect new clans to use ABing/missle tactics for retals, not RAGE :P

on another point i'm sure that RAGE, back on Earth2025 farmed alliances into the ground that couldn't retal them so in my opinion no alliance can moan about it happening to them. Just think of it this way, all the new Players that Pang is trying to get in is how they will feel.

Pull your resources together and do some legitmate retaling :P

meh, half our guys are off on holidays, we don't have many active members this set.

As long as the game is fun.

TGD, i think i'm the only Rager that has posted in here, not much moaning from us, you win some, you lose some, the simple fact is we didn't plan well for this set and didn't come out at the beginning of the set all guns blazing with decent startup countries and PDM is taking advantage of that.

It's a well known fact we are planning on warring this set, so it's not like we are gunning for top 50 spots anyway. meh, all in good fun=)

Rage and PDM are not pacted atm, so if they don't want special attack retals, perhaps they should contact me on MSN and do something about it no?

ABing and missling is against alliance rules?

who made those rules up?

lol....

considering the number of retals on retals that guy suffered, i'm not surprised he AB'ed a PDMer.

Yes, the kill chat you set up on a country you were incapable of retalling.

I'm sure you'd gladly let Rage kill a few of your farmers though. I guess he should have run to ECT and run his mouth about 'accepting" escalating retals.

they weren't retals on retals, they were just landgrabs. i don't give a fluff about the other PDMers he hit.

sorry to break it to you thatguy, but if a pdmer LG's a rager, and then that rager retals, and then you hit that rager, that is a retal on retal.

If you don't like it, take it up with your Fa's that are parading around crowing about "regular alliance policy".

yes, but the point i was making was that my hits were not relatiations for anything, they were landgrabs.

i would have hit those countries no matter what their history was, and in terms of FA, yes you would call them retals on retals, but i didn't care because rage were incapable of retalling, so that was insignificant.

it seems pretty clear that some ragers are capable of destroying your buildings though.

PDM denying that they did RoRs?

This sounds familiar?

Dragonlance, Why fight on AT for? Declare war already if you are going to cry so much about being farmed... or work it out by contacting FA's and come to an agreement. May I suggest renaming the alliance from RAGE to WHINE.

Forgotten/Son Goku.. sounds like you guys have some angst / grudges against PDM. Do you need a hug? If you are this concerned about RAGE, why not join them.. help them retal? No? That's what I thought.. you're all talk.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm keen for a war. Netgaining in this game has always been lame. This smack talk is boring me...

I would say grudge isn't a strong enough word =p

And only people that can't netgain, thinks netgaining is lame, ie PDM

i've already emailed AND MSG'ed your FA listed contacts regarding this issue and am awaiting there reply.

Once again, i don't see any Ragers in here whining, just myself asking for a reply to me email to TAN, and ONCE AGAIN the only people posting in here are PDMers beating their chests over being able to LG an alliance that should have folded 6 months ago.

theyd die in a war :P this is likely funner

Forgotten, certainly not..... hate? I come back after not playing for 5 years.... and not sure whats been happening, but if you want somebody to talk to Forgotten, I'll listen. We can't all be that bad. ;)

I wouldn't mind hearing about what's been happening with the game / politics.

I can honestly admit I can't netgain, don't have the patience for number crunching, unless it's for a kill target.


Dragonlance, then hopefully they reply to you soon, I don't like the sound of "should have folded", enough alliances I remember aren't around anymore already. :(

Forgotten, reread my above post, technically they were retals on retals and in terms of FA should be treated as such. My point was that I didn't even consider any previous hits when I made them, they were just more landgrabs to me. Also, when you've been playing for 10 years, no matter how good you get at it, it become fluffing boring, same stuff set after set. The game gets interesting when the politics heat up and wars break out, although since there are so few players in the game now it would obviously be a lot less interesting, although it certainly beats netgaining.

And dragonlance, yes, if a player spends as much as they can on tanks of course they'll be able to break with an AB, way to go, you certainly stuck it to PDM.

Wars with 200+ player alliances, very high participation rates and amazing war chat leaders were awesoooome. Wars will never be remotely close to being as good as they used to be.

Dragonlance, check mail inbox.

Paradigm guys, go easy. This is starting to sound dangerously close to flaming.

it is flaming..

Stop flaming, plz. :)

*pets guy*

Hey DL,

you got some WOGgies playing in Rage still?