Date & Time Type Attacker Defender Result
Jun 14/10 5:41:17 AM PS DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) 1113 A (+462 A)
Jun 14/10 5:40:37 AM PS Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) 1129 A (+533 A)
Jun 14/10 5:40:11 AM SS DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) 737 A (+328 A)
Jun 14/10 5:39:34 AM SS Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) 708 A (+344 A)
Jun 14/10 5:38:27 AM SS DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) 700 A (+322 A)
Jun 14/10 5:37:38 AM SS Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) 672 A (+330 A)
Jun 14/10 5:36:56 AM SS DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) 663 A (+310 A)
Jun 14/10 5:36:14 AM SS Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) 578 A (+284 A)
Jun 14/10 5:34:57 AM PS DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) 899 A (+422 A)
Jun 14/10 5:34:09 AM PS Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) 892 A (+451 A)
Jun 14/10 5:33:43 AM PS DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) 862 A (+403 A)
Jun 14/10 5:33:05 AM PS Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) 853 A (+430 A)
Jun 14/10 5:32:32 AM PS DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) 825 A (+386 A)
Jun 14/10 5:31:52 AM PS Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) 822 A (+412 A)
Jun 14/10 5:30:01 AM PS DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) 792 A (+370 A)
Jun 14/10 5:28:59 AM PS Mr Nike (#501) (EEVIL) DISinherited (#177) (EEVIL) 792 A (+396 A)

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Hopefully this isnt something leadership is condoning.

If it is we'll be considering dropping our pact with EEVIL.

:)

wow didn't like my reply on icq so had to run here.


see this is why collab gets hit so often. gotta be nosy little b1tch's and interfere in another alliances internal affairs

Check your time stamps Dis, I posted on here much before I messaged you.

Pretty sure we don't get hit very often either :)

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oh noes the moral police from omega have arrived...we're done for now!!!

I don't want the admins to have to mess with ghost acres. :(

fine then have the admins put in the rule that hitting another member of your alliance is a deletion lvl offence... i'm willing to put down money other alliances will lose more members then Eevil's 2

i just find it funny that out of everybody else that did this last reset AxA feels the need to call me out on it i feel the love

It wasnt brought to my attention last set or I would have :)

bull you even said on icq you knew about it

AXA collab ‎(6/14/2010 11:55 PM):
not pacted to neofed because of it



now please point out to me the thread you called them out in ...its ok i'll wait

Kudos to Collab, this fluff has no place in this game.

I know someone in FFA tried it out, but reported back that the CS loss was too great to be worth it.

Neofed was pointed out to me after the set ended. Resulted in no pact.

Where am I in the wrong again Dis?

Wouldn't it be easier for the mods to just write the code once preventing same-tag hits from occurring?

and they haven't have they...so all of you can go on home and come back when i actually break a rule...

<s>but that would mean we couldn't 2 step or have retal teams that take the retals for other people and then let the original victim farm the acres back</s> DO IT MOFOS

Interesting thread considering how much of this went on last reset without comment.

Nonetheless I would like to state that EEVIL has done nothing in violation of earth/server policy, nor have we violated the terms of any pact we are currently in with any alliance. I would like to think that after having successful relations with everyone we have pacted since this servers existence this matter would be brought to me via ICQ rather than over AT.

Guess I was wrong.

AxA and Son Goku, you have my ICQ. Alicia, if you do not it is in my signature. If you want to know what EEVIL's leadership thinks of this, or discuss anything, as always please feel free to reach out to me on ICQ or MSN. I'm off to bed after this as I have to be up for work in 5 hours, but I'll be back on tomorrow.

From what Dis said to me on ICQ, this was fully approved by the leadership in EEVIL. Not much to talk about if thats your stance.

I was just giving my personal 2 cents on the matter. I've posted about stuff like this before.

No one is going to take suggestions from some RD loser.

AxA tell me again who told you i was a leader in eevil... would love to know wich idiot your listening to


edit: orkin i love you to *smooch*

Doesnt matter who told me you were a leader, the fact is you stated that your own alliance's high council condoned it :)

Nothing to talk about on ICQ, I'm not representing anyone but myself.

/me Represents Son Goku

I take offense to the harassment of my client!
He be a liar,
a thief
a jerk
a lesbian
a stonecutter
a philanthropist
BUT HE IS NOT A COMMUNIST!

Seriously who cares...

there's what? 20 untagged countries to attack in the entire server.

So there are one of 4 ways to go about doing things...

1. All Explore
2. Grab the crap outa the 20 countries along with everyone else.. makes the new people want to quit.
3. Drop an NAP to open up grabbing. But then guess what? due to lack of land sources that will = a war.
4. Get creative and try something like this.

It's called "Alliance Server" so they were doing something that they thought would help thier alliance, no cheating was done.

AxAlar it seems you need to get over yourself. If you want an individual game then maybe being "Collab President" isn't the thing for you.... Primary might be more your thing.

Or maybe... we could institute "AxAlar Rules' No FAing, No Self Alliance farming, No Retaling cept for your self "since that would be cross retalling :P

That name fits you well, chump.

when did cross retalling come into this? or anything other than internal land trading?

No one did it last set in this way. The sof guy dropped tag. And lime since you are a former and current loser I am pretty sure anyone can drop pacts for whatever they want. And if enough clans get together to band against self farming on this server then I am pretty sure you wont have a choice ;)

Just showing how it's a form of one country helping the other. It just seems to be what earther's seem to call retalling for someone they're not suppose to.

Retalling for alliance mates, Foriegn Aiding, Aiding Land, Retalling, Market Buyouts, are all just forms of helping an alliance member out.

As this game has evolved so must each alliance to gain an edge. They just did... granted, based on the C.sites lost you might not try the same thing.

Thomas: maybe ;)

really low EEVIL... really low...

This blantent abuse of ghost acres didn't occur last set, Neo was GSing its +100k acre country into DR so no one could take any rediculously sweet grabs. Although i agree this was wrong, i found SoF's conduct (what they call netting) to be worse. Have a look at SoF countries from last set, there's nothing genuine about the only 2 T100 finishes they aquired. You'll notice one of the SoF's countries (obvious land farm) goes on to suicide all T10 potentials, i found it extremely satisfying that SoF still could not get T10 :)

As for the land trading by Mr Lime, i like you man, but seriously dont abuse ghost acres or we'll loose them again...

And in light of the above events i would condone the admins discision to write in a code that stops inter-clan attacks of any nature...

GSing is a strat for smaller clans... i'd say its fair to let it stay :P

Actually chump, we put C:C retals up as a debate in our site a few weeks ago and the general membership wasnt for it and neither were many alliances I talked to about it.

Otherwise id love axa rules ;)

AxA rules:

#1 don't talk about AxAclub
#2 DO NOT TALK about AxAclub

I'm leaving EEVIL to join this new alliance....it's.....well

the first rule is I'm not supposed to talk about it...and the second rule...

"GSing is a strat for smaller clans... i'd say its fair to let it stay :P "
lol, the need for GSing has nothing to do with a clan's membership numbers...

Often larger clans have the larger countries anyways, so dose that mean they should GS their countries into DR every 24 hours?

not everything should be done by game restrictions, there is a reason why there are clan policies after all...

well I just mean it is a protection from WR farming. A potential one anyways :P and heck you could have all your stocking farmers do it haha :P

Too much politics.... just play the dam game.

<yoda>
politics leads to war
war leads to market purchases
market purchases lead to NETTING!!!
</yoda>

charles i have to ask how this is blatant abuse of ghost acres. i like ya to man and i'd like to have a genuine discussion about this without me being RD as a factor.


a rep can eplore for what 39 acres a turn at 8k land i believe? kk now 39 acres a turn with the possibility for more x 14 turns= 546 roughly possibly upwards of 580 acres if luck is with you

now i did 14 turns because that is how many me and nike were spending for each hit we did on eachother and we gained 200+ early on to 400 on the final hits...

now to explain where the 14 turns comes from rep attacking=2 turns rebuilding lost CS=2-4 turns rebuilding farms to maximize ghost acres 8-10 turns and yes some of those hits took me 16-17 turns to recover from.

add in the loss of food production durring this, building costs, cost of jets used and lost and cost of oil need'd to be bought....

i don't see how i abused jack sh1t...look at the numbers...not only did it not work like we had hoped i believe now we should have waited till 15k acres to try this..but our expenses were astronomically higher then a all explore rep.



i would totally agree with all of you if me and nike had farmed some untag's then pull'd this..we didn't we skip'd our tech phases, explored our butts off and decided to give this a try. and seeing as how we bought jets from other alliances, oil from other alliances, we helped you guys....we the only difference between what we did and exploring was we put money back into the market system

we have not once touch'd any other alliance




as for orkin locket and the rest. your statements seem to imply that pang and the game mods are inept and not doing their jobs. your accusations of me being a cheater are about 7 years to late. i've never denied what i did in those days. did i run multi's fluff yeah. did i spy in many alliances no doubt. have a cheated in earthempires? no. neither has any other member of RD that i'm aware of. how many times has my country been deleted? how many eevil countries have been deleted? how many NA countries were deleted? you are all barking up the wrong tree. i have not attack'd any of you or smack talk'd to you guys. so how about you mind your own buisness and i'll continue to mind mine


and like xto said its suprising that for all of this that has happened and yes we sat by and watch'd the last 2 resets and said and did nothing to condone or condem it...that suddenly AxA, who i thought was my ally suddenly finds himself a chance for the spotlight.

lets all be honest this wouldn't be causeing half the fuss it is if an RD member wasn't involved. i have no doubt that his misguided moral and ethical obligations were to overwhelming that he finally had to post about this subject. And the fact it was me, the one who voted in regen to stand behind collab in the final sets of earth2025, and a known RD member, was just icing on the cake for him.

*claps*

so on that note i'd be more then willing to have an intelligent discussion about the pro's and con's of what i'm doing with anybody. and who knows you bring enough facts and good points to it and you might even get me to change my mind.

icq 20654127


those of you who blindly lash out at anything RD please just go right over to the team forum and you'll find your other groupies already there in full swing

I can say that the EE staff agrees pretty much that this isn't cheating or exploiting a bug and hence this is not delete worthy in the slightest.

Weather or not the way ghost acres will change in future resets is a separate issue.

lol who gives a fluff about RD, they cant play even if they farm themselves anyway

wow..what is this game coming to...:-/ self farming being condoned. WOW wow wow...sad.

The day when self farming becomes the norm is the day that netting becomes pointless. Even though it's not against game rules, it does go against the spirit of the game itself, by taking out the fun and competition required for a game to be playable.

But, I guess it's slightly better than having 20 countries all camping for the split-second an untagged country starts coming out of DR...

the mods should run untagged landbots.

Dear EEVIL, ignore them. Do what you like to play this game. you're not breaking any rules, so who cares if all these self-interested people dislike what you're doing. If they really want you to stop they'll attack you. Right now they are just hot air.

this isnt a job for the mods its a job for ingame politics, if alliances want to act, as many have before, against internal farming, then do so.