If you look at every thread it's all MD, Evo (mainly former Evo) and PDM crying here. Oh and Alin... You guys got Alin to back you up!

Same old names every set. I like to see you go on your little crusades, it makes us happy to know you think about us so much :)

All the fluffe talk on here stems from our fluffe in-game play, tactics, gangbangs etc.

I don't like the new MD either, but they can't hold the water to your cowardness.

Just because you say someone is whining doesn't make it true. it's just a way to distract from the actual issues that the other clan (the one being "whined" about) doesn't want to discuss.

it's the traditional way to try and marginalize your opponent's legitimate concerns -- claim they are whiners. deflect the discussion and try to put those who are already on the defensive on the defensive in a different arena (AT).

if you haven't realized this, you're a n00b. folks have been doing legitimately douchey things in this game and then claiming the other party is just whining for over a decade. It spans political lines as well :p

Dear Whiners,

I see that you are crying again. So what is it about this time? Waah wahh, SoF is destroying the health of the game bla bla.

So what have we done this time? Well we made the horrible decision to help SoL and Rival arrange a war on cordial and fair terms. We also made the disgraceful decision to help other alliances, including former enemies recruit members. But most shocking of all SoF made the diabolical decision to actually do something for ourselves last set. We hit two alliances who had plotted against us in the past, received logs about recently, and would have been killing us if they had the political clout to do so.

And now this set, we receive more suspicious logs, but we actually make the effort to try and work around it. We never did come to any agreements I see, but a SoF with 50 people netting and 40 people planning for a later set war were hardly a threat to a 75 member MD, I'm sure something would have been worked out eventually. But it is clear that you were planning for this date. Your strats are perfect aligned for a strike this week. You made the decision to hit today regardless and you had two targets, SoF or RD. You came to us a few days offering a pact with unacceptable terms, despite us being in a position of power. You played on the fact that you'd think we'd pact you, and leave RD isolated in an attempt to protect our netters. When we refused, you decided your best option was to hit our 50 netters and 40 unprepped warriors and gaining a breaker advantage, hoping that we wouldn't call in allies as we'd fear looking weak (and maybe hoping we'd have 20+ people not restart out of frustration).

This was a miscalculation. We really don't care what the whiners on this server think. We promised war for our 40 warriors and a netting set for our 50 netters... and that’s what they'll be doing. Our warriors will now be killing/maiming you all set while our netters will be farming your countries. It isn't conventional netting, but LaF has shown this works well... and we have the added bonus that our members and our warchat leaders can have a nice and relaxing Christmas, instead of a slow grinding, time consuming war where our numbers would have ground out a probable victory. I’ve seen the logs where you were having fun about the fact that you'd ruin our reunion set, but nope, we'll enjoy this just as much, and if any other alliances decide to join in, they'll be our Christmas lunch too.

So bad for the game? Look to me that we have imag vs RD (fair war) and SoL vs Rival, which will be fair and everyone is free to net. MD will get a beating while SoF and LaF have fun... but as MD mentioned on their war dec they can take anything and won’t go away... so is the server really so bad. :)

Love SoF.
xxx

Wait, wait wait...

You're complaining that someone else is complaining... and then taking the time to try to respond to every point they make?

Classic.

Evidently whining is for everyone. So I'll whine about your whining about their whining about past reset's whining about more whining.

Some of the players will join team server and will fluff that up too ( imagine a team composed of 40 other teams ) and a vast majority will finally play where they belong ( FFA ).

I generally like MD. They're not whiners like a lot of other alliances. :) I'm only mad because they lied in their war dec and declared war on us (not this set, the first time). SoF and MD should have never fought, EVER. It was a huge and stupid mistake.

Agreed.

Wait.... what?

1. I was the only SoF Head that knew that Hanlong was reading boxcar, but it's hardly cheating when he was 'given' admin access and this access only became a problem when the admin was in an alliance having conflicts with Hanlong. He still 100% denies the ingame admin allegations. Reading someones site is dirty and devious maybe, but I really don't care.

I used to like sof back in the old earth. you had more decent guys than idiots.
In the new earth, you just suck.

I don't like the new MD either, but they can't hold the water to your cowardness.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that hanlong is editing fields in the database again? I cannot believe that you actually typed that post and hit "Submit Message".

If you support cheating, then you're destroying the health of the game.

Is it finally time to stop pretending that SoF members have secret integrity that they're too embarrassed to demonstrate in public?

The reason he admitted it is because I have the logs of him admitting it. Seems like no one cares. I'd have to suspect some Sof'ers are disappointed.

Not really. I've experienced SoF 1v1 in an even war where SoF got the FS.

The special olympian flamey was around too. He'll give you the details where you got your arses handed to you and had to run to LaF to FA you and then to FS evo =)

Serously though.. don't you feel ashamed. You alliance can't netgain for fluff and by God you've proven time and time again you can't war.

Here's a little song I adapted for SoF:
SoF
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Say it again
SoF
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing