Oh you changed your post mdevol. My retirement was personal leave which is none of your business why I took it. I can post why, but I don't think you deserve to know nor would you like to be made to look ridiculous and the biggest douchebag ever. Continue to bother me about it and I will. Please drop it. It is called RL stuff.
yep, part of why I changed it, realized after reading it again, that it crossed some lines. you beat me on the quote though...my bad.
Surely what a man does when he is caught off his guard is the best evidence as to what sort of man he is. - C.S. Lewis
Aponic is still gone. You continue to talk to noone that isn't around for a bit nor has been around since the beginning of the set. In the meantime you continue to blame your wargaining on a FA that hasn't been around since the first week of the set.........
I highly doubt that is what aponic said mdevol...
Also pulling the heavy landgrab card.....it was just as even from the SOL side too...
Welcome back to EE, galleri
I know you were gone for a long time. How long have you been retired now? How was it?
Also, yes, aponic did say that. The direct quote was
<aponic> if none of you want to fight
<aponic> ill bully you
<aponic> with land grabs
<aponic> or something
<aponic> because im going to do what i tihnk is best for my alliance
I am under the impression that this is not as much of his feelings as it is the feelings of Sov and Flamey pushing thier agenda and doing whatever they possibly can to retain total political power in the game that they have long ago lost but is just now coming to fruition.
as I have said before, I feel bad for aponic having been thrown into this tire fire known as SoF FR dept. There is a reason it is in that bad of shape and its not makinso, as much as they try to put it on him.
Again, you misunderstand. SoF has never attempted to dominate the server; any attempt to do so is doomed to failure. Instead we wanted to be an alliance, which warred everyset, stood by its allies and had 'A' dominant position on the server which allowed us to fight challenging wars when active and easier wars when not so active. But yes, along with our allies we have fought unfair wars to try to preserve this position and avoid being in a position where our openents can do the opposite against us, which is exactly what is happening now.
And it's not just Makinso, it's you as well. Seeing as you felt the need to publicly post aponic's private convo's despite all the faux respect. I'll post a few choice convos.
mdevol I wouldnt join SoF as long as Xyle is leading that sinking ship
[SoF]Xyle lol
[SoF]Xyle sinking ship
[SoF]Xyle you listen too much to your own propaganda
mdevol ha i do?
[SoF]Xyle indeed you do
[SoF]Xyle for example, I challenge you to name one lie I've ever told SOL
mdevol I am pretty sure its you guys spreading propaganda in your recruitment letters
[SoF]Xyle aww does our recruitment upset you?
mdevol no
[SoF]Xyle lol
Boltar id rejoin sof but would need to be under my terms and conditions
mdevol it makes me happy
Boltar sof is my 2nd home
[SoF]Xyle oh but wait Boltar, we are a sinking ship
mdevol more of you to kill when you FS netting clans...
mdevol
[SoF]Xyle better keep clear of us
Boltar thats fine, i use to be very fat and have some boyancey left
[SoF]Xyle we FS netting clans? pretty sure SOL has more of a history of doing that than us... we've FSed what, 1 netting tag and that was for topfeeding us purposely and being assholes in FA dealings
[SoF]Xyle come on now mdevol, which netting tags has SoF FSed?
mdevol im talking about your intent to FS a netting clan this reset...which would also include the discussion of your recruitment
[SoF]Xyle lawl
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mdevol but yea
[SoF]Xyle "our intent"
mdevol yes
jon i intend to rape u xyle
[SoF]Xyle
jon then rape mdevol
mdevol jon, back in your cage
jon with same condom
jon who is tpa leader ffs?
mdevol
mdevol also, xyle, how does it feel to lose a war to a rookie war leader?
[SoF]Xyle It's unfortunate the way things are with some of SOL's leadership these days. At least Dragon is still there who I have implicit respect for. I still love Suni too
mdevol i am currently 1-0 vs sof
mdevol
mdevol that is all
[SoF]Xyle I didn't lead much last set, this much is known... and you didn't win anything, MD did a lot of the heavy lifting... but overall I am still 4-1 against SOL
[SoF]Xyle so I'll let you have one to feel good about yourself
jon hrms...
jon BS?
jon I think so. .
[SoF]Xyle explain to me how it is bullfluff
mdevol JON
jon I cant...censorship is a bich
mdevol yep, I have respect for aponic, it is unfortunate for him to be thrown into the fluff show of FR dept
mdevol hopefully in time he can get it back to where it needs to be
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Boltar ok ok enuff of that
Boltar on to more important stuff
Boltar mdevol is trying to get with a hot little asian # sov has a hot wife
[SoF]Xyle no Boltar, I want to hear more about how I am the devil
Boltar do either of them have sister/cousins that are just as hot that u can hook me up with?
Boltar u have to be the devil brother
Boltar u live on the fluffing sun..
[SoF]Xyle according to them I lie all the time and I manipulate etc, I'd like some examples
Boltar its ok i love u all the same
Boltar next time ur in the states, u gotta come to dirty jersey we can hit the casino and have a drink in atlantic city
[SoF]Xyle indeed
Will you call in MD and claim another impressive war win again this set?
[17:26] '[SOL]Makinso' well
[17:26] '[SOL]Makinso' tbh with you
[17:26] '[SOL]Makinso' SoF was kind of a cakewalk
[17:26] '[SOL]Makinso' from the beginning
I wonder if SoL is delusional enough to even notice MD in their warchats.
[20:01] 'mdevol' actions speak a LOT louder than words, any chump and say what you want to hear. it takes men to honor that word.
So... SoL in the last 3 years?
[20:15] 'mdevol' my thought was when maki rejoined as a red sof refused to deal with him
[20:16] 'mdevol' and it naturally broke down
[20:16] 'mdevol' because of the histroy they have
[20:16] 'mdevol' but im not a historian nor was i even in leadership when that happened
[20:16] 'mdevol' so i dont know
No... actually, Xyle and Makinso were communicating for a while. The first war we had post-SPERM war with MD, we asked him what he would do in the situation and he agreed with us hitting MD. Also when SoL was going after RD, we didn't try to strong arm SoL, we tried to get them to agree to an arranged war as we did with Rival SoL a few sets before when Rival was intent on FSing them. What broke down the relationship was the fact that SoL started pacting all our enemies, neutrals while picking off our allies and then moved onto directly recruiting from us.
01[14:23:20] 'aponic' what would you like maki
01[14:23:33] 'aponic' im just trying to steer this alliance out of a poor position
[14:23:38] '[SOL]Makinso' what we're gonna do is sit around
[14:23:46] '[SOL]Makinso' watch what sof does
[14:23:53] '[SOL]Makinso' not be dictated in what you believe or what your paranoia tells you
[14:23:57] '[SOL]Makinso' I'm not gunning for anyone
Right...
[14:24:57] '[SOL]Makinso' I was not amused with how SoF has performed with SOL in the past year
01[14:24:58] 'aponic' you have gone out of your way to accuse me of things
[14:25:00] '[SOL]Makinso' double ethics
[14:25:12] '[SOL]Makinso' and while I won't commit to warring SoF
[14:25:27] '[SOL]Makinso' I'm not very reluctant on pacting sof either as I have no idea where that curve ball will fall
I'm so happy we're finally at the cherry picking quotes portion of this ridiculous thread. Who's going to end up being called nazis first?? I hope we find out soon!!!
*popcorn*
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mdevol more of you to kill when you FS netting clans...
(SoF)Xyle better keep clear of us
Boltar thats fine, i use to be very fat and have some boyancey left
(SoF)Xyle we FS netting clans? pretty sure SOL has more of a history of doing that than us... we've FSed what, 1 netting tag and that was for topfeeding us purposely and being assholes in FA dealings
(SoF)Xyle come on now mdevol, which netting tags has SoF FSed?
MD was FS'd by SoF while netting during our 75th.
I'm sure you could re-open a can of worms as to why, but you asked for an example so... there ya go.
Is anyone buying this nonsense that SoL was netting?
If SoL truly believed that aponic threatened them, and only because the war monger and control freak Xyle told him to, then shouldn't they have prepared? They left SoF unpacted, they knew their FDP LCN would hit SoF's FDP, and they felt 'threatened' by SoF, and they told SoF they would be watching and waiting for them to make a move. I thought their amazing war general, mdevol beat SoF 1v1 ffs, would have had his alliance prepared for war. Keep in mind, aponic hasn't been around for about 2 weeks so this isn't short notice wrt the threats.
But yet, knowing that war is a certainty, they decided to net? Either their war department and leadership are completely incompetent or they are full of fluff.
Is anyone buying this nonsense that SoL was netting?
But yet, knowing that war is a certainty, they decided to net? Either their war department and leadership are completely incompetent or they are full of fluff.
Wow, you cannot get this can you?
intent -> netting
practice -> forced to war prep by SoF's words/actions
If I am reading Maki correctly, SOL planned to net - unless they couldn't due to allies calling them or being hit.
Of course it is prudent to prep if you see something coming. But it doesn't mean you wanted war.
Is anyone buying this nonsense that SoL was netting?
But yet, knowing that war is a certainty, they decided to net? Either their war department and leadership are completely incompetent or they are full of fluff.
Wow, you cannot get this can you?
intent -> netting
practice -> forced to war prep by SoF's words/actions
If I am reading Maki correctly, SOL planned to net - unless they couldn't due to allies calling them or being hit.
Of course it is prudent to prep if you see something coming. But it doesn't mean you wanted war.
Post of the day.
Finally someone who just reads it and doesn't try to make assumptions....
Is anyone buying this nonsense that SoL was netting?
But yet, knowing that war is a certainty, they decided to net? Either their war department and leadership are completely incompetent or they are full of fluff.
Wow, you cannot get this can you?
intent -> netting
practice -> forced to war prep by SoF's words/actions
If I am reading Maki correctly, SOL planned to net - unless they couldn't due to allies calling them or being hit.
Of course it is prudent to prep if you see something coming. But it doesn't mean you wanted war.
I see you bought into their fluff.
The problem here is that they set the table for war. They didn't accept SoF's pacts and they knew LCN's plans. However, they want us to believe they "had netting start ups" that "got forced into converting to semi war/net strategies." Are we really supposed to believe that an SoL that believes Xyle is a war monger could not foresee war coming? Moreover, SoF FSd a day ago....aponic hasn't been around for about two weeks. I have no sympathy for them allegedly not being fully war prepped. I think the real problem is that they underestimated SoF and overestimated themselves.
What kind of netting alliance leaves their #1 enemy unpacted whilst believing their #1 enemy is run by a vindictive war-monger (and let's not forget what went down between their FDPs)? At best, they are just incompetent.
I wonder what Sof plans to do with their coalition with Laf/MD being friends now. I had actually expected Sol/Sof to friend up but that isnt happening. What breaks first? One of the main friendships or the coalition wars? :P
You can say what you want about us; we are what we are:
We are warriors.
We fight for our friends and honour pacts.
We hold grudges.
We try our best to help new alliances, and help smaller alliances internally and with their recruitment.
We don't have an AT ban.
We can be fluffs.
When we were in a more dominant position, we were pretty harsh at times, with the carrot and the stick. We were there for about 3 years, including times when we very weak internally and militarily; we made a pretty good run of it. If we weren't there someone else would be and the grass isn't always greener. I lived through the SLIT coalition... People have short memories.
Makinso, you and I go way back. I talked extensively with sol prior to thi reset. While it is absolutely true that I said sof needed a war this set and that I wanted to fight sol and that I made many attempts to either pact you or set up a friendly, it is a blatant lie to say that my rhetoric forced you to convert from netting. If you were netting legitimately when I.told you that we would look for war after the holidays then that is your choice. I have absolutely been upfront with everyone. Sof setup to war, looked for an even fun war after the holiday and that is exactly what we
did.
Is anyone buying this nonsense that SoL was netting?
But yet, knowing that war is a certainty, they decided to net? Either their war department and leadership are completely incompetent or they are full of fluff.
Wow, you cannot get this can you?
intent -> netting
practice -> forced to war prep by SoF's words/actions
If I am reading Maki correctly, SOL planned to net - unless they couldn't due to allies calling them or being hit.
Of course it is prudent to prep if you see something coming. But it doesn't mean you wanted war.
You can not simultaneously prevent and prepare for war.
Aponic is still gone. You continue to talk to noone that isn't around for a bit nor has been around since the beginning of the set. In the meantime you continue to blame your wargaining on a FA that hasn't been around since the first week of the set.........
I highly doubt that is what aponic said mdevol...
Also pulling the heavy landgrab card.....it was just as even from the SOL side too...
Welcome back to EE, galleri
I know you were gone for a long time. How long have you been retired now? How was it?
Also, yes, aponic did say that. The direct quote was
<aponic> if none of you want to fight
<aponic> ill bully you
<aponic> with land grabs
<aponic> or something
<aponic> because im going to do what i tihnk is best for my alliance
I am under the impression that this is not as much of his feelings as it is the feelings of Sov and Flamey pushing thier agenda and doing whatever they possibly can to retain total political power in the game that they have long ago lost but is just now coming to fruition.
as I have said before, I feel bad for aponic having been thrown into this tire fire known as SoF FR dept. There is a reason it is in that bad of shape and its not makinso, as much as they try to put it on him.
Again, you misunderstand. SoF has never attempted to dominate the server; any attempt to do so is doomed to failure. Instead we wanted to be an alliance, which warred everyset, stood by its allies and had 'A' dominant position on the server which allowed us to fight challenging wars when active and easier wars when not so active. But yes, along with our allies we have fought unfair wars to try to preserve this position and avoid being in a position where our openents can do the opposite against us, which is exactly what is happening now.
And it's not just Makinso, it's you as well. Seeing as you felt the need to publicly post aponic's private convo's despite all the faux respect. I'll post a few choice convos.
The snippit of conversation I posted was because SoF leadership had the crazy idea that he didnt say anything like that. I did select just a snippit of that conversation because the rest of it is VERY much private and not needed on AT, I can bring it here if you want though flamey, I would bet aponic and SoF in general wouldn't want that though. Perhaps I could have just publicly asked aponic if he said it, and he likely would have answered, confirming my statement.
whatever. just die already...
Surely what a man does when he is caught off his guard is the best evidence as to what sort of man he is. - C.S. Lewis
Is anyone buying this nonsense that SoL was netting?
But yet, knowing that war is a certainty, they decided to net? Either their war department and leadership are completely incompetent or they are full of fluff.
Wow, you cannot get this can you?
intent -> netting
practice -> forced to war prep by SoF's words/actions
If I am reading Maki correctly, SOL planned to net - unless they couldn't due to allies calling them or being hit.
Of course it is prudent to prep if you see something coming. But it doesn't mean you wanted war.
You can not simultaneously prevent and prepare for war.
if they wanted to net they would of tried to prevent it? otherwise what is the point in trying to net in the first place given the current politics of the server and maki's track record.
When I came back to SOL 2 resets ago I sent a private message to SOV and he never replied. Being out of the game for quite sometime I wanted to get to know the new leaders. The only message I saw from SoF was a war.
I can honestly say I have not been kept in the loop as far as what top leadership in SOL is doing and I am not in FA at all. I was told we were netting. Anyone that knows me knows that I am not a netter. Yet, this reset, I have been in the top 14 until the war and had dropped to rank 26. Am I a competent netgainer... absolutely not but it was interesting to try.
In regards to some questions from Galleri and others saying we were not netting... I am an ADL of one of the divisions in SOL and I also work with the new members. Even though I was told we were netting, I am not stupid. I did the best I could to netgain yet I also made dang sure that my Division in SOL were ready for what I ultimately expected... SoF to hit us.
When I came back to SOL 2 resets ago I sent a private message to SOV and he never replied. Being out of the game for quite sometime I wanted to get to know the new leaders. The only message I saw from SoF was a war.
I can honestly say I have not been kept in the loop as far as what top leadership in SOL is doing and I am not in FA at all. I was told we were netting. Anyone that knows me knows that I am not a netter. Yet, this reset, I have been in the top 14 until the war and had dropped to rank 26. Am I a competent netgainer... absolutely not but it was interesting to try.
In regards to some questions from Galleri and others saying we were not netting... I am an ADL of one of the divisions in SOL and I also work with the new members. Even though I was told we were netting, I am not stupid. I did the best I could to netgain yet I also made dang sure that my Division in SOL were ready for what I ultimately expected... SoF to hit us.
When I came back to SOL 2 resets ago I sent a private message to SOV and he never replied. Being out of the game for quite sometime I wanted to get to know the new leaders. The only message I saw from SoF was a war.
I can honestly say I have not been kept in the loop as far as what top leadership in SOL is doing and I am not in FA at all. I was told we were netting. Anyone that knows me knows that I am not a netter. Yet, this reset, I have been in the top 14 until the war and had dropped to rank 26. Am I a competent netgainer... absolutely not but it was interesting to try.
In regards to some questions from Galleri and others saying we were not netting... I am an ADL of one of the divisions in SOL and I also work with the new members. Even though I was told we were netting, I am not stupid. I did the best I could to netgain yet I also made dang sure that my Division in SOL were ready for what I ultimately expected... SoF to hit us.
Good luck in the war.
I checked my messages to be sure and you have never messaged me.
its because he lies and manipulate things so much, more than any leader I have ever discussed fluff with when leading, that you just cant trust him, yet people follow him blindly. He does it so well he comes across as being honest and clean which is just plain bullfluff.
Look at the sol/sof relationship, was crap when maki was in charge, maki left and it got better to the point of DP's. Maki comes back and ruins it. Not to mention instantly siding with MD when MD fluffed over sol before he came back, but he ignores that.
The amount of times I have pointed out blatant lies to members of sol who i know, they still ignore it and follow him and I cant understand for the life of me why.
I wonder what Sof plans to do with their coalition with Laf/MD being friends now. I had actually expected Sol/Sof to friend up but that isnt happening. What breaks first? One of the main friendships or the coalition wars? :P
There is no coalition, that is clear, it's pile up on big bad SoF time. We will get banged for a couple sets. Eventually the tables will turn so I'll look forward to that. I can tell you that our membership is not going anywhere, we love this fluff.
Loving the SOF members claiming they will keep 'coming back for more'.
We will see.
You have lost the support of the master manipulators and general dodgy brothers in LAF, RD got deleted and Elitez sure is never coming back. You are running out of shady partners to save your ass, so that means you are fluffed. Last time it got hard for you pussies you ran to another game, things don't look rosy for you.
You are about to feel what you tried to dish out for two years. MD and SOL have been constantly beaten and bloodied by the two biggest alliances in the game who conspired to try and get both alliances to fold. Whoops. Now it's time to feel the wrath. Want to see two alliances who keep 'coming back for more'? Well fluffing bow down to SOL and MD.
Loving the SOF members claiming they will keep 'coming back for more'.
We will see.
You have lost the support of the master manipulators and general dodgy brothers in LAF, RD got deleted and Elitez sure is never coming back. You are running out of shady partners to save your ass, so that means you are fluffed. Last time it got hard for you pussies you ran to another game, things don't look rosy for you.
You are about to feel what you tried to dish out for two years. MD and SOL have been constantly beaten and bloodied by the two biggest alliances in the game who conspired to try and get both alliances to fold. Whoops. Now it's time to feel the wrath. Want to see two alliances who keep 'coming back for more'? Well fluffing bow down to SOL and MD.
Is my memory fading. I thought SoF survived the SLIT era, which was a lot more daunting than this .
Is it just me or does everybody just start speed scrolling as soon as they see Flamey's name at the top of a post? Flamey, did it make you angry when your bible chapter ended up on the floor of the editing room?
Sol netting? Literally, nearly choked on my coffee laughing.
Galleri, you are getting kinda trollish in your golden years.
***waits for MD to come in and curbstomp sof***
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