both warster and HWCNG recently asked me to catalogue the difference between LaEx and the troublemakers.

here is a partial list:
LaE had its four leaders cheating
LaE had its four leaders cheating on their clan site
LaE had its four leaders cheating on a secret part of the site
LaE played multiple accounts
LaE shared multiple accounts among clan members
LaE cheated across multiple servers
Express, ffa, alliance, primary, tourney and team
LaE cheated across multiple sets
at least twenty separate sets of express all told
they used kill runs to protect their top ten clans men
when they got caught all four lied
when they got caught many more LaE players lied for them
when caught, they whined "like five year olds"-pang
after they were caught
-LaE said the game needed cheaters
-LaE said they had cheated for years
-LaE said they would keep on cheating forever
after they were caught they appointed three muppets as replacements
who lied about whether the cheating occurred
who lied about where it occurred
who lied about when it occurred
who lied about who was involved
who insulted anyone who tried to sort out the mess
who continued the pattern of using clan sites to coordinate express countries
this conduct continued for months
they used their clan site to coordiante suicidal runs to protect their top players
when they too were caught:
they lied
( n.b. after LaEx was dead and mouldering in the grave decapitated by gregg
they came out and admitted they had lied for a long time but felt obligated to because of their loyalty to the clan)
they whined "like five year olds" -pang
they immediately expelled any member of their clan who admitted the clan was still cheating
they insulted anyone who tried to clean up the server
they insulted the server
they insulted the admins
they badmouthed ex-members who said they had cheated for years
they deliberately posted nonsense on threads to prevent any coordinated effort to track and punish them
they became wiki editors to prevent the true history from being recorded for posterity on the wiki


the troublemakers
make random 3 man kills on express players who do not join GDI

3 guys, one server, no clan site, no secret part of the clan site, no whining "like five year olds"-pang



this is a partial list only, i am sure i have forgotten a lot

warster, i hope this helps
glad to be of service

so lincoln which Lae leaders were deleted for cheating??

you truly do not know the history of the great LaE cheating scandal?

this is why it needs to be put up on the wiki and saved for posterity

those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it

Lincoln answer the question?

i know more about it then you do

Actually, the troublemakers have been using a clan site, and leader(s) of a clan were involved.

You don't know everything Gregg, and you are not ment to know everything. The mods are taking care of it.

Not to mention that 70% of that list is funny as fluff. False, but still funny. It is so cute that you are still able to live in your own little world.

no warster you do not know the half of it apparently

i regret that you have said you refuse to read the contemporaneous posts on this forum

if you did, you would not defend wholesale cheating

lincoln please do not talk about stuff you have no idea on

Warster doesn't defend cheating. He has been deleting cheaters for over a year and has no allegiance to LaE that I'm aware of. Your accusations are false and disrespectful. Knock it off.

i did not mean he knowingly defended cheating.
i said he has said he refused to read the posts.

care to take that back lincoln

Kinda looks like you did to me.

LaE broke the rules and were eventually punished for it. The troublemakers also broke the rules and were eventually punished for it. I'm not sure what it is that we're supposed to be discussing here.

me neither

warster asked me to tell him the difference
so i did

Gregg has a constant need for a conspiracy theory.

I hadn't heard the one where I became the wiki editor JUST to cover up the LaE FFA scandal. That's a good one.

Well if this thread doesn't have any relevance to express I'm going to close it.