so first you reverse 2 stepped me:

2013-11-03 23:43 Salvation in Death (#359) [PANLV] PWNAGE (#1936) [UNC] PS 751A (+636A)
2013-11-02 01:07 Holiday in Death (#362) [PANLV] Salvation in Death (#359) [PANLV] PS 2,477A (+746A)

grabbing your attacker before you grab me, thats definitely a no no, and called reverse 2 stepping I do believe

so I retalled #362, who had reverse 2 stepped

then before I could go and retal #359, you farmed it silly! that's called 2 stepping, and I kill people who do that to me

so here's the news of you farming the guy that attacked me in the 48 hours after he grabbed me:

2013-11-05 23:25 Glory in Death (#361) [PANLV] Salvation in Death (#359) [PANLV] PS 1,080A (+273A)
2013-11-05 23:22 Purity in Death (#364) [PANLV] Salvation in Death (#359) [PANLV] SS 1,040A (+250A)
2013-11-05 23:20 Purity in Death (#364) [PANLV] Salvation in Death (#359) [PANLV] SS 1,182A (+435A)
2013-11-05 23:20 Purity in Death (#364) [PANLV] Salvation in Death (#359) [PANLV] SS 1,317A (+581A)
2013-11-04 21:28 Betrayal in Death (#365) [PANLV] Salvation in Death (#359) [PANLV] SS 771A (+344A)
2013-11-04 21:26 Rapture in Death (#368) [PANLV] Salvation in Death (#359) [PANLV] PS 1,574A (+445A)
2013-11-04 21:17 Fantasy in Death (#366) [PANLV] Salvation in Death (#359) [PANLV] SS Defended
2013-11-04 20:50 Rapture in Death (#368) [PANLV] Salvation in Death (#359) [PANLV] SS Defended
2013-11-03 23:43 Salvation in Death (#359) [PANLV] PWNAGE (#1936) [UNC] PS 751A (+636A)

and in case you do have a 72 hour retal window (not sure on this) these were more hits within the 72 hours:
2013-11-06 23:38 Delusion in Death (#358) [PANLV] Salvation in Death (#359) [PANLV] SS 1,242A (+192A)
2013-11-06 23:37 Delusion in Death (#358) [PANLV] Salvation in Death (#359) [PANLV] SS 1,317A (+325A)
2013-11-06 23:36 Delusion in Death (#358) [PANLV] Salvation in Death (#359) [PANLV] PS 1,974A (+652A)
2013-11-06 23:35 Delusion in Death (#358) [PANLV] Salvation in Death (#359) [PANLV] PS 1,689A (+682A)

I have not made a single grab this set, and never hit you before, so this was totally uncalled for. being that I was freshly out of war and not in a position to hit back right away, I saved up until I could kill most these offenders, and the countries that hit these in your little farm chain.

I only targeted this one player for what he did, and have nothing against the rest of PAN, you guys can enjoy the rest of your netting set, so I didn't touch anyone else. if you hit me back at all, I'll consider it an act of war, and my other 600 missiles might find new homes. I'll consider case closed and lesson taught otherwise.

Peace!

~ llaar

Awesome!

*humps llaar*

Not sure why PANLV is grabbing outside of their tag at this point.

Also, odd you didn't bother contacting Bigwiggle or Twain first.

Just curiuos .....
How many LG on you from this PAN player?
How many PAN countries did you kill?

earthgraphs shows 6 kills with 89 hits. nice, very nice.

6 kills for a single non legal LG and without involving FA ?
If I'm not mistaken, this non legal LG, took place at the beginning of November (like 20 days ago)?
Please correct me if I'm wrong

Awesome, Boss!. :) I knew ya had it in ya. I got your back if necessary. :) Way to go.

@Le Legionnaire:
"being that I was freshly out of war and not in a position to hit back right away, I saved up until I could kill most these offenders, and the countries that hit these in your little farm chain. "

that is why I killed now, and why I killed all the ones I killed

2 stepping is death in FFA. I've always killed for it for as long as I've played, no FA contact needed on that in my books.

killing for 2 stepping is good and all but isnt there a retal window of killing?

(I havent played ffa in a year + so i dunno)

you are your own liquor control board

llaar was gathering missiles. :P

llaar you two stepped me 2 years ago, does that mean i get to kill your countries next set? :P

I'm pretty much inactive at this point, but llaar, seriously? Why not just contact Juusto, Wiggle or AJ (or heck, even though I'm not around much, even me)? Have we in PAN ever given you reason to make you think we wouldn't have made it right?

Not to mention the completely ridiculous time table for retaliating.

Oh well, as I said, I'm pretty much out for awhile, but I hate to see one of our guys get taken down in a bullfluff move.

That was not a bullfluff move, Twain. He defended himself from practices that are deceitful and dishonest. A fair punishment. He only targeted the offfenders countries and no innocent players were wounded as a result.

A FAIR JUSTICE, IMO.

Oh, and as for the timing of the event. Perhaps it took some time for him to be tripped to the scheme. The reason players do this is to "hide" their direct activity, right? Thus, it took a bit of time to figure out the plan.

If you guys wish to take a hard line on this, I might not be a happy camper about.

just stay away from my beers !

did some1 mention beer?

Really? no FA contact just kill as much of the string as possible? Two stepping is constantly occurring this would be the first "fair punishment" i've seen in that case. And most two steps and reverse steps are done more ignorantly than purposefully

I understand you get bored towards set ends llaar, you seem to do these kinds of things often, but don't try to justify it with a two step from 3 weeks ago

you never have a time frame on killing for retals, you can do it when ever you like.


Twain, i dont think llaar wanted you to make it right, whats he gonna do with reps lol

Its because he's spoiling for war and nobody took his offer. Some poor chap who grabbed once and carried on his usual land trading activities got the short end of the stick.

Oh well.

Rule 1 of land trading,

Don't grab anything other then own countries or untags :)

Absolutely. Our player shouldn't have been mixing the two. However, we would've been happy to do reps this set, reps next set or land either set.

llaar needed to unload.

and he did so on there face!

eeeeewwwwwwwwwww@scode