See this thread: https://www.earthempires.com/...-resistance-51613#1006164


Why this is relevant. Darkness, Coalie, Dark Demon, Symba and Mercs (as they are the leaders) have cheated in the team server against The Resistance and a bunch of new players.

Further, Mercs members purposefully helped/coached me in hitting Omega and PDM. And further incited me to hit Monsters, Stones and many other alliances.


The ONLY reason I hit EVO in alliance last game was to be fair, spread my attacks around. I wanted to practice land grabs against countries much larger than mine, as I didn't know exactly how they worked. After I hit Omega and PDM, I thought it wasn't fair that I hit one alliance but let another alliance skirt free, which is why I hit Swamp Guardians.

Coalie also tried to convince me to hit Tmac. I'm not sure what his motive was there, other than to further disparage my name and reputation. I had given Tmac my word I wouldn't hit him though, and I held that word, even after Mercs kill run'd me and I had every reason to hit him.



Ya'll need to read the other thread. Coalie admitted to created a fake discord profile, joining our discord and alliance. He admitted that Symba and Dark Demon knew. Requiem admitted to me that Darkness leadership told him not to hit Coalie.


Is this how we want the game to be played? Are we ok with people creating fake discord profiles, giving new players bad advice, cheating to win a war against new players, and everything else that goes along with this?


If they did this to us in team, it's likely they have done this to other alliances here.


Further, I now question all the tools they set people up with. I do not know enough about the technology behind the tools, but if they were willing to create fake discord profiles, why wouldn't they be willing to create tools that holes in them that allow them to spy information they shouldn't be privvy to? Where is the line, and how do we know if they are crossing it or not?



Is this really what the community wants for this game?

Lies, lies and more lies!

https://imgur.io/nBsYvJ3?r

Use the correct verbiage.

You suicided on Omega, EVO, and PDM and thought it was funny. And you were crushed for it.

and no, I didn't goad you to attack tmac. I specifically said NOT to hit tmac. I said if you were Gerdler's friend and wanted him to do a solid, you'd suicide TMAC to protect his record. Gerdler was watching the convo the entire time and did not even bother to interject. I said if I was gerdler's buddy, I'd suicide tmac to protect gerd's record. But I am not gerd's buddy so the point is mute. You didn't hit EVO to practice grabbing land, you hit them because you wanted ATTENTION.

But the bottom line is, you still suicided Omega EVO and PDM and you thought it was hilarious. It doesn't matter if someone tries to coach you to suicide netters and then eat sweedish meatballs after, your decision to suicide these guys is YOUR CHOICE AND RESPONSIBILITY. You SHOULDN'T have hit Swamp Guardian no matter who tells you to or not.

and yes, I was a dirty resistance player on teams last set, this is an ALLIANCE forum. I am a Merc's player here. I announced to everyone on my team that I was joining resist. I even told BlackHole I was a darkness player. I even told Blackhole that Darkness probably knew which country was mine, has the word "coom" in it. We tried to get these guys set up on GHQ and get access to warbots but all they did was trash talked the people that tried to help them.

Your story isn't even consistent here. You are tripping over your own lies.

You DID goad me into hitting Tmac. You knew I was friends with gerd, and by your own admission, you said that if you were friends with Gerd that you would hit Tmac. Ipsofacto, telling me that since I am friends with Gerd, I should hit Tmac.


Tmac - you're lucky I'm a man of my word.


As for the laughing and thinking it's hilarious... Go talk to the leaders of PDM. Go ask him if I'm the asshole you're making me out to be.

Doug, Leto, either of you want to chime in? Someone making some land grabs doesn't make them a bad person, and I'm sick of you trying to make it seem like I'm a bad person because I did some land grabs.


You know what makes you a bad person? Cheating. Creating fake discords. Misleading new players and giving them bad advice. Attempting to sabotage the game for other players.


I didn't do any of that. You did.

The only thing I'm guilty of is attempting to learn the mechanics of land grabs against larger countries, UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF A MERCS MEMBER.

For me, it was useful to see how much land/money I gained from land grabs against bigger countries. I'm not going to apologize for that. That's how you learn the game.


You know what happened when I did it though? Some people came and talked to me like adults. Others didn't. Why do you think I kept hitting Swamp Guardian and Evo, but didn't hit PDM anymore? Cause PDM treated me like a person, asked why I did it, and we had a great conversation.

Mercs on the other hand, not only didn't talk to me. Superfly assured me I wasn't going to get hit by Mercs. I gave him my word I wouldn't hit anyone else there.

And then after I did that, Evo/Mercs killed me.

https://imgur.io/nBsYvJ3?r

whooooooooooooa....
oof.

https://i.imgur.com/KCthuuT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mfHgz4W.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mfHgz4W.jpg

Keep spinning b-hole all will see the truth!

https://imgur.com/a/lJjRprf

LIES LIES AND MORE LIES!!!

https://i.imgur.com/pCdStbG.jpg

I'm glad the truth is coming out. And I'll happily address that.


1. Everyone was claiming I was a puppet. Everyone told me Gerdler was manipulative, as you can see I referenced in my messages. It's possible that I was misinterpreting what Gerdler said to me, and thought he was trying to talk me into hitting Tmac.

I think in reality what happened was that I misinterpreted his telling me about Tmac breaking the NW record, and explaining why it was going to happen, as him trying to coax me into 'doing him a favor' without him actually asking me.

In hindsight, my interpretation of those conversations was probably incorrect.

I don't recall him ever explicitly asking me to attack Tmac.

But you know what, now i'm curious. And if he did, I'm going to post those logs. I have nothing to hide. This isn't about me or my wrong doing.

If you're trying to 'gotcha' me by saying someone else also tried to do what you guys did... fluffing have fun with that. Maybe Gerdler is just as manipulative as you guys.


But you know what. None of that excuses the fake discord profiles. The cheating.


Ya'll want to focus on if Gerdler wanted someone to hit Tmac. Who gives a crap about that. That's not relevant at all. What's relevant is how much ya'll are cheaters and hypocrites.

Spin dagga spin.

Your credibility is at an all time low, and you threw your buddy Gerdler under the bus.

Well done!

Love discord - found the logs. Check the date, you'll see it's prior to the conversations you've screenshotted. All you've proved is that I did a fluffty fluffing job of interpreting what Gerdler was saying to me, likely influenced by the fact that everyone told me not to trust Gerdler and that he was manipulative.

You know who told me that a lot? Coalie. And I believed him. Cause he was a vet in our alliance helping us out, allegedly, all set. I had no idea it was him, being a cheater, and trying to mislead me.





Cuda — 02/03/2023 9:52 PM
They actually brought me onto their team a few weeks ago to teach me. But then kicked me after a day cause I was talking fluff to Darkness in team on the forums.
So that made me mad, cause i'm a cool guy and was gonna be loyal to them on 1A
Gerdler — 02/03/2023 9:54 PM
there are ways
Im just saying that hitting omega and not hitting evo is like giving the win to evo and tmac lol
he doesnt have defense either
you really cant play with defense when netting to be fair. because if you do it means you have too much NW to hit a bot
once you got 300k+ acres and decent tech and like 15m jets you are past the humanitarians range of most bots usually. the difference this round is everyone including laf especially is at war so no one is hitting the bots and theyve grown to epic proportions
Cuda — 02/03/2023 10:01 PM
Ahh, I see what you're saying.
I'm not sure who I'm going to hit next, if anyone. I just wanted some more land too. I only had 11k land but like 28mil nw. I needed more land

/me eats popcorn

Yeh I can see where this could be interpreted as a manipulative, if not sleezy, way of telling someone they should do something. You guys need to kiss and make up. Y'all make an excellent crew. Your team color is purple.

To Gerdler's defense, he is just playing the game like it was intended.

Honestly just leave already. You been itching to leave the game for 2 days now. since you got your 5th or 6th purple for cheating yet again in express….

https://m.earthempires.com/...nation-51610?t=1676246745

Super - you know the worst thing about you? You're a dishonest interlocutor.


Cuda — 02/11/2023 8:44 PM
I know you agree with me on this.
I get why they enforced the rule against me, like they have against you.
But it's a bad rule.
SuperGuy — 02/11/2023 8:44 PM
I have been deleted more times than you
Look at my profile
Cuda — 02/11/2023 8:44 PM
Oh I know. I'm not surprised I was deleted.
I'm just saying that they aren't understanding the rule.
SuperGuy — 02/11/2023 8:45 PM
Tons of purples in express for hitting people already at war



Cuda — 02/11/2023 8:45 PM
What's the difference then, cause I'm an idiot apparently
SuperGuy — 02/11/2023 8:46 PM
Primary everyone does 1 LG
2 LGs considered interference
Cuda — 02/11/2023 8:46 PM
So if I had hit you 1 time with a LG in express it wasn't interference?
SuperGuy — 02/11/2023 8:46 PM
Go read the threads
They have it all there
I already proposed all of your scenarios
Your boy Gerdler shut it down




You keep calling me a cheater, muddying the waters between what I did to get myself deleted and what Coalie did here. So let's address that head on.


I did what you've admitted to doing more times than me. You've admitted you've been deleted more times than me. You've admitted that you VERY RECENTLY had the same exact concerns and questions that I had.

You also know, because you were present for this conversation, that I've pleaded with the mods multiple times to get a thorough explanation of what exactly the rule is, so that I don't run afoul of it again.


You also know that the mods, publicly, have not given an extremely clear definition of what is considered interfering with a war and what is not.

SuperGuy — 02/11/2023 8:56 PM
Exactly I was gonna put to the test
And what did Gerdler say?
Cuda — 02/11/2023 8:56 PM
Well he said something like 'oh so you're gonna test the limits of the game
SuperGuy — 02/11/2023 8:56 PM
He will keep it in mind to delete me lol


You said you were going to put it to the test. Exactly what I got deleted for, because you also wanted to know the limits of the rule, and were the boundaries were.




All of this is irrelevant to the conversation at hand, except that it goes to prove that you are being dishonest in these conversations, and nothing that you say should be considered.


We are having a discussion about Coalie and Darkness cheating. As a way of defending them, you are calling me a cheater, when we both know, as is evident by our conversation history, that we both agree that what I did was not necessarily cheating, and you've accidentally run afoul of the rules even more than I have.


You're purposely being misleading to try to win the argument and claim that Coalie and Darkness weren't actually cheating, by making it seem like I'm a worse cheater, which you know isn't even true.

That's pretty low.


You want to argue with me, do it honestly. Take cues from Derrick. He at least has the history argument to fall back on to justify this cheating. You're just being straight up dishonest, and I'll continue to tear you apart for it as long as you continue to do it.

Coalie - You claim you were on our side, and everything you did was on the up and up. No foul play. All you did was hide your identity, for some unknown reason.


If that's the case then why are these the only three attacks you engaged in the entire set?

2023-01-28 15:06:19 GS 1969 CoomMobile (#47) RESIST Taker (#9) Freedom 1434C 618 F
2023-01-28 15:06:17 GS 1969 CoomMobile (#47) RESIST Taker (#9) Freedom 1462C 618 F
2023-01-28 15:06:06 GS 1969 CoomMobile (#47) RESIST Taker (#9) Freedom DH


That's it. In a war that saw us kill 8 or 9 people, and carried out thousands of attacks, you only made three attacks. And it wasn't even against Darkness.


If you were really playing WITH US, and not engaging in the cheating we all know you were, then you would have actually played with us. You would have participated in the war.


Otherwise, you weren't really playing with us, were you? You were simply in our discord, trying to act like you were with us, while you sabotaged our team, gave players bad advice, and fed information back to Darkness leadership.



The facts are damning, Coalie.

Hey DD, Where are these cool tools, and do they include free porn?

This is all slander/libel

You left out a lot of pertinent information here on Taker (#9) Freedom. That was the first target we killed. I did 20 Cause Dissensions and 10 Demoralize. I broke the target 3 times to get it within reach to u guys. He died in that killrun. What else did you want me to do? Rub you to completion?

I was also present for 2 other killruns, one of which I did 20 Cause Dissensions and 10 Demoralize on Allentown Hammer. He got down to a 10k break before he walled. He's one of Darkness's most active player. Of course he was going to come online. Rouger is one of Darkness's best killers, and everyone knows he lives in Allentown. The 3rd target, I said let's kill something, everyone got online and we killed that target. I did 20 CDs, 10 DRs and Gerdler came in and sniped the kill on that target.

All your killruns werre impromptu runs, you did it at random times throughout the day. Sorry, but I'm not going to show up whenever you ping me on discord, I'm not your boyfriend.

Many of us here have went on a rampage, been an *** and made a lot of people mad. They will get over it just chill out and give it time. Tmacs a good dude and Andrew is too. If your sincere and nice to them I’m sure they will get over it in time, although I cannot speak for them. That was really a **** move on Andrew though. He worked a long time on that thing and it was a special set that will be hard to replicate with the biggest clan in a war.

But I’m sure you can redeem yourself, I’m
Not so sure you will but I’m
Sure you could.

FFS it has been explained to you many times. What you and I have done of interfering in wars IS CHEATING PER THE GAME RULES AND ITS WHY WE BOTH HAVE BEEN DELETED.

YOU ARE A CHEATER AND I AM A CHEATER FOR VIOLATING WAR INTERFERANCE RULES.

YOU AND I SHOULD MAKE A TAG CALLED PURPLE CHEATERS UNITE!

Respectfully, Superfly, I don't think what we did was cheating. I think we crossed boundaries that we did not know existed. We both, repeatedly, asked for clarification on those boundaries so that we did not cross them. And we were met with resistance (ha!).

It's like a dog testing the invisible fence. He's trying to figure out where the boundary is. Just cause he got zapped a few times doesn't mean he's an asshole cheater. It means he's learning the boundaries. It'd be nice if someone could just show him the boundaries though, in clear/concise language.

FWIW - I believe I have a good understanding of those boundaries now.



Also - another server - but #51 and #18 should be getting deleted on primary. They just did exactly what I did to you on express, Superfly. I've reported them, still awaiting a result. I'm extremely curious to see if the rules are enforced consistently.

@Everyone - I think having two threads is confusing. I wanted to make sure alliance knew of this information, as some of the events carry over here. But, I think it's probably less beneficial to have two open threads on the same topic now.


I'm going to stop responding here and hope anyone who wants to continue will move over to the team thread.

Cathakins, in particular, I hope you look over there. Please see my last reply to SFBob, as I think it is pertinent to what you just said and kind of addresses the same points.

CHEATER POWER! PURPLES FOR ALL!!!!!

I'm curious if it was by the 15th or 16th grab on me that were you able to effectively "learn the mechanics of land grabs against larger countries"?

Also, why does Team drama keep getting brought into this server again?

+1

Mechanics learned: Fat asses like you carry no defense and sit on 20 million tech, $5 Billion$, and 6,000,000 acres. Target Omega.

After the third or fourth land grab, I likely got intoxicated by the amount of land I was taking. It was addicting.

My apologies. Which country were you, btw?

Don’t forget the other game mechanics for landrabbing:

“there are ways
Im just saying that hitting omega and not hitting evo is like giving the win to evo and tmac lol
he doesnt have defense either”

This poor, dead horse is getting his azz beaten way too much

To be fair, if the guy I'm responding to up above is Swamp Guardian... the second set of land grabs I did on him he only has Mercs to blame for. So maybe you should be apologizing too, lol.

Havoc is not Swamp Guardians. I play under the Swamp Guardians country name.

Ahhh, you're the one that I screwed up big time then. Cost you the billion mark. Sorry dude, you were very close.

hmmm did you guys have any words before yall fell out or did yall just fall out?

This is a lovers quarrel as far as I can see.

Still beating a dead horse. There is a B-hole in every crowd.

I give BlackHole credit though. It’s not easy coming in as a new dude, starting a group, and then calling out an experienced war clan to fight just to carve out a piece of the game for himself.

Lmfao

Bonus

fluff you for trying to get bonus points from my thread!!

Who are you and what is your clan. You're next. And as you can see, I don't really give a fluff if you're a netter or not. Just as you sniff a billion NW, I'll rear my ugly face and make you scream my name. Once you're in the black hole, you never get out.

I'm the ultimate gravity, and you're about to cross the event horizon!

Lol

spare some for an old friend?

Is this thread real?

bonus

This has to be Zack.....

Ha, requiem. This poor little lost boy thinks I have it in me to sniff a billion NW. Lol.

I don't doubt you could!

Mate, the bots laugh at me as they finish with higher NWs.