where did all of NA's members go?

crazyserb

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Feb 9th 2011, 2:08:29

didn;t you go over 100 a few sets ago??
did your members just stop playing or did they join other alliances?? like SoF for example

We have not been anywhere near our old numbers since the ES meltdown. :( We do have some former members in SoF, some in Monsters, and at least one in Omega. Some have quit.

Also, we peaked at around 65 on EE.

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Jelly

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Feb 9th 2011, 2:51:54

llaar got busy with real life.

Makinso

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Feb 9th 2011, 3:16:08

It´s a (No offense VC you're the most active I see) typical case of absence of active top leadership.

Makinso

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Feb 9th 2011, 3:16:23

at least that's how it looks from the outside.!

Thomas

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Feb 9th 2011, 3:29:54

They need an entire restructure. They have refused Collab's help with getting setup on Boxcar, with strategizing their war against SoF... I was going to make an offer this set to be an advisor type so this FA between NA & iMag and their retal situations clear up, but I'm too busy, and llaar is too dumb to agree. He'd rather let NA die.

iXenomorph

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Feb 9th 2011, 3:52:37

Soviet farted and scared them off. I don't blame them... he really smells...

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SakitSaPuwit

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Feb 9th 2011, 4:11:47

I have not gotten a recruitment message fro Llaar for 2 sets not, It doesn't feel right

but what do i know?
I only play this game for fun!

Jelly

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Feb 9th 2011, 5:11:31

llaar gets busy, NA drops a bunch of members, coincidence?

i think not.

Imperial

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Feb 9th 2011, 5:52:15

Originally posted by SakitSaPuwit:

I have not gotten a recruitment message fro Llaar for 2 sets not, It doesn't feel right

+1000 lol

Makinso

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Feb 9th 2011, 5:59:12

Hhmmm Jelly,

I don't think putting it that way is right. As much as I've fought NA with SOL in the days they got repeatedly deleted for multying (This was before EE happened) I honestly do believe they are alot cleaner nowadays then they were back then.

I'm not saying they do not have any multies in their ranks as no tag/alliance can 100% guarantee such a statement. But I do believe in the fact that NA has been trying to keep a clean record.

TNTroXxor

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Feb 9th 2011, 6:22:18

/hump maki

Btw llarr has a life???! That's gonna make me depressed

Originally posted by JJ23:

i havent been deleted since last set

mrford

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Feb 9th 2011, 6:28:58

NA wared for a year straight towards the end of E2025 and then ES died. A few upper leadership went imacitve with RL troubles and Boxcar was never set up properly.

It isn't one thing, it was a slew of succesive things that have dwindled the member base.

But NA has a ton of ex-members and LLaar, no matter what you think of him, has lead that alliance for longer than any one of any alliance that I can remember.

I have full faith that NA will be back and better than ever.

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table4two

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Feb 9th 2011, 8:10:07

Llaar may polarize people, but he is a good leader.

Ever alliance have their ebbs and flows. Im sure NA will bounce back.

aponic

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Feb 9th 2011, 13:56:28

I blame llaar being busy with things other than the game. If he gets active the numbers will balloon again.

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Makinso

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Feb 9th 2011, 14:21:55

Originally posted by mrford:

But NA has a ton of ex-members and LLaar, no matter what you think of him, has lead that alliance for longer than any one of any alliance that I can remember.

I dare to speak against that :-P.

May I point out dragon whom has atleast (if not more) 6+ years of service as a red to SOL. And my own service as a red/cmd 4.5 years at SOL :-P

NukEvil

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Feb 9th 2011, 14:37:51

Ruth? Ragnarok?

I am a troll. Everything I say must be assumed to be said solely to provoke an exaggerated reaction to the current topic. I fully intend to bring absolutely no substance to any discussion, ongoing or otherwise. Conversing with me is pointless.

grimjoww

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Feb 9th 2011, 14:53:00

llaar is on extended vacation

mrford

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Feb 9th 2011, 15:44:29

not really interested in this debate

but being president for 5-6 years isn't exactly the same as being a red.

however, that isn't my point, my point is he has lead NA the entire time it has been in existence.

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[21:37:01] <&KILLERfluffY> when I was doing FA stuff for sof the person who gave me the longest angry rant was Mr Ford

Thomas

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Feb 9th 2011, 16:27:37

Originally posted by mrford:

I have full faith that NA will be back and better than ever.

NA's only strength was their numbers. They run a very disorganized show, which is evident by their sloppy countries, inactivity, and widespread multis. They just let whoever join and do whatever they want. Pound for pound they were never very strong. Like I said, their strength was in their numbers.

LeftyHa8er

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Feb 9th 2011, 17:27:39

i would say that at the peak when i was with NA we were good at warring once the dead weight was killed off there were 20 to 30 hardcore fighters the rest liked to run with NA cuz it easy to net in a large clan with a stable base of killers.

Ruthie

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Feb 9th 2011, 18:12:27

Originally posted by NukEvil:

Ruth? Ragnarok?

lol ... I only led Ragnarok for what ... 9 years or so? :P

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NukEvil

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Feb 9th 2011, 19:02:56

Originally posted by Thomas:

Originally posted by mrford:

I have full faith that NA will be back and better than ever.

Like Arrow, but with less organization? Got it.

Makinso

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Feb 9th 2011, 20:23:41

and LoL @ Ford.

Explain that to me how a red is not a president ? :P

BobbyATA

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Feb 9th 2011, 20:25:12

I think it was the lack of SDI when they warred a couple sets ago...

anoniem

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Feb 9th 2011, 20:33:34

Meh, all alliances should merge into omega... that is all!

re(ally)tired

Vic Rattlehead

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Feb 10th 2011, 1:37:26

Really? Multiple TNW records, taking SOL 1v1 on more than one occasion, several t1 countries, wtf? Our only strength was our numbers?

Ok...

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NukEvil

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Feb 10th 2011, 2:46:19

Originally posted by Vic Rattlehead:

Really? Multiple TNW records*, taking SOL 1v1 on more than one occasion**, several t1 countries***, wtf? Our only strength was our numbers?

Ok...

*Numbers. Definitely the numbers.

**You won like one time that I can remember. Because of your numbers.

***Every single one of those top 1 countries were massively FAed or solely benefited from buyouts. From the rest of the numbers in your clan.

Dragonlance

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Feb 10th 2011, 2:49:59

many leaders have put in just as much effort as llaar over the years, without developing their own kim jong il style cult of personality like he has.

Vic Rattlehead

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Feb 10th 2011, 3:18:05

Originally posted by NukEvil:

Originally posted by Vic Rattlehead:

Really? Multiple TNW records*, taking SOL 1v1 on more than one occasion**, several t1 countries***, wtf? Our only strength was our numbers?

Ok...

HAHAHAHHA

That's all you got, the same buyout accusations? I can tell you that Grimjoww at least would not like to hear you say that about his finishes. We set the TNW record 3 times after I became a member. We were not the top membership clan in any of those sets. We warred SOL more times than I can remember, and won or were winning 1v1 prior to allies being called in more often than not.

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Junky

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Feb 10th 2011, 3:36:18

meh... all NA's Bases are belong to us.

I Maybe Crazy... But atleast I'm crazy.

Makinso

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Feb 10th 2011, 3:51:05

double post

Edited By: Makinso on Feb 10th 2011, 3:53:48
See Original Post

Makinso

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Feb 10th 2011, 3:53:12

LoL Vic you made me draw open our history board. These 4 sets are the sets we fought each other on somewhat even grounds.

Reset 47 May to Jun '07: Driving A Hard Bargain
SOL FSes NA/LCN/ZT/Rag. SOL Wins. SOL @ 110+ NA & Co @ 150+

Reset 55 Nov to Jan '09: Tree Struck
NA FSes SOL NA @ 100 members SOL @ 80ish. - NA Wins

Reset 57 Jan 13th to Mar 16t '09: Close to Perfection
NA Strikes SOL/ZT SOL Wins. NA @ 100 SOL + ZT @ 105

Reset 58 Mar 18th to May 27th '09:
NA refuses to boot cheating leaders. SOL FSes NA - SOL wins. SOL @ 70 - 80 NA @ 85.

The other sets we warred were with heavy ally involvement. SLIT vs Anti SLIT. The SLIT aftermath etc. So honestly you only beat us once, with a numerical advantage and the FS.

Vic Rattlehead

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Feb 10th 2011, 3:55:27

Man, I am not sure I was in the 07 one. I might not have been in NA yet. But you are right, there was heavy ally involvement, eventually, in the rest.

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xaos

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Feb 10th 2011, 12:34:40

Originally posted by Makinso:

I'm not saying they do not have any multies in their ranks as no tag/alliance can 100% guarantee such a statement.

What about those one-country spam tags? EH?

Sorry. Trolling shutting down now.

grimjoww

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Feb 10th 2011, 12:56:20

i hope NA would do buyouts for me lol

grimjoww

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Feb 10th 2011, 12:58:22

anyways llaar is in RD now

llaar (#155)

dagga

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Feb 10th 2011, 13:14:04

The SOL History board strikes again!

signatures are stupid.
Months since LaF netgained: 22

anoniem

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Feb 10th 2011, 18:38:50

llaar (#14) in NA

re(ally)tired

Jelly

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Feb 10th 2011, 20:03:29

MULTIES!

Drinks

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Feb 11th 2011, 2:24:15

I wrote a response. ANd then my connection went fluff so i lost it.

So cbf typing it again.

Long live the llaar name theme!

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Thomas

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Feb 11th 2011, 2:51:36

Vic ... I like you, but that's how I feel about NA. Their organization has always been crap. The talent has always been mediocre. NA was good because of their numbers. And their members/multis were easily manipulated by llaar to create the big FA chains