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Bsnake

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May 18th 2011, 22:36:37

nice work NBK :)

also gave me a chance to pull away in the killing stats too :)

just gotta catch llar...

<bsnake> 68,270,386 turrets whats that in NW??
<Crippler> 115m NW
<Bsnake> 38 mill NW nub... thanks for your netting advice.. Stick to killing nub

Havoc

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May 18th 2011, 23:29:09

Originally posted by KeTcHuP:

FA chains and Market manipulation are so much better then self farming ;)

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Bigwiggle

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May 19th 2011, 0:33:27

You gotta admit .. self farming and manipulation make a netting set so much more interesting

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Khavic25

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May 19th 2011, 0:37:36

Gotta admit looking for those self farmers that let their DR's lapse when I logged in to play turns made the set more interesting...;)

Damn missed it

Angryjesus

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May 19th 2011, 2:43:03

Originally posted by Khavic25:

Gotta admit looking for those self farmers that let their DR's lapse when I logged in to play turns made the set more interesting...;)

So this is okay but looking for the person who has done an fa chain without hiding their stock is not?

i'm failing to see the difference

KeTcHuP

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May 19th 2011, 3:13:24

Nothing wrong with stealing stock in a grab. If a country has 600m bushels on hand, double tap it at least. 3 retals is worht the 100m+bushels youll gain!

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Rockman

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May 19th 2011, 3:17:01

I won't let you hit me if I have 600m bushels on hand. I'm gonna GS myself into DR ... and to make sure I'm in DR, I won't bounce the GSs.

Popcom

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May 19th 2011, 3:29:15

Originally posted by KeTcHuP:

FA chains and Market manipulation are so much better then self farming ;)

yep

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KeTcHuP

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May 19th 2011, 4:05:52

Good strat rockman.

And popcom just cause it doesnt show up in news, doesnt make it any different.

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yes it does.
if i play the market, i can lose. we dont control what everyone puts on or buys off the market.
but this has been said before, and for some reason ppl dont understand.
guess they shouldn't go to the casino...

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KeTcHuP

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May 19th 2011, 4:42:10

When you get 5-6 members and standing orders, its impossible for you to lose. Thats why monopoly is illegal in Canada (and USA i beleive?)

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QM Diver

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May 19th 2011, 5:39:59

Is this an atta boy thread for NBK?>

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Rockman

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May 19th 2011, 6:16:13

If its possible for you to lose, then you aren't playing it right.

synoder

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May 19th 2011, 10:19:28

I love monopoly, I can't believe it is illegal in Canada! Silly Canadians, making a board game illegal ;)

Havoc

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May 19th 2011, 12:54:23

audible laughter was produced

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braden

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May 19th 2011, 13:50:23

Synoder, its is because our money is so similar to monooly that banks and businesses around the country had monolopy money mixed in with the real bills. It was nearly impossible to tell the difference.

Khavic25

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May 20th 2011, 2:08:24

Originally posted by Angryjesus:

Originally posted by Khavic25:

Gotta admit looking for those self farmers that let their DR's lapse when I logged in to play turns made the set more interesting...;)

So this is okay but looking for the person who has done an fa chain without hiding their stock is not?

i'm failing to see the difference

Difference is the land does not go anywhere and can be retalled so both players benefit. So the bigger the grab the more ghost acres and if the only land retained are the ghost acres the grab was still successful. +1 to the developers for ghost acres.

The stock hunting going on was done by countries with no stock and no chance of the retal getting anything positive in return. Malicious intent I believe was how it was posted earlier in another thread. Basically the equivalent of two-stepping.

Damn missed it

Bigwiggle

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May 20th 2011, 2:18:48

Originally posted by Khavic25:

Originally posted by Angryjesus:

Originally posted by Khavic25:

Gotta admit looking for those self farmers that let their DR's lapse when I logged in to play turns made the set more interesting...;)

So this is okay but looking for the person who has done an fa chain without hiding their stock is not?

i'm failing to see the difference

You're saying DR camping doesn't have malicious intent .. and provides an opportunity for both countries to benefit? lol.

Stock stealing and DR camping are both made possible by a failure by the country getting grabbed .. whether it's letting your DRs lapse or not properly hiding your stock.

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NOW3P

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May 20th 2011, 3:58:37

Wait....would this be the same NBK that broke/dropped pacts and went to war over other alliances self farming in the past?

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Sauron NBK

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May 20th 2011, 4:29:18

now3p, the amount of senseless garbage that comes out of your mouth never ceases to amaze me. go find another bridge to sit under idiot.

Popcom

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May 20th 2011, 4:34:03

IF YOU SAY IT ENOUGH TIMES IT BECOMES TRUE!!!!!

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Walding

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May 20th 2011, 4:40:38

Self Farming takes away the intent of the game. WAR.....

Rockman

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May 20th 2011, 4:47:02

Originally posted by Walding:

Self Farming takes away the intent of the game. WAR.....

Yet the game has always had networth charts, but never war charts. So if anything, warring takes away the intent of the game, and self-farming contributes to it.

KeTcHuP

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May 20th 2011, 5:28:06

GSing into DR is wrong becuase it takes away the chance to get a full landgrab in. GSes werent meant to put into DR they were meant for punishing!

IF thats true then:

Putting stock on the market is wrong because it takes away the chance to get a full grab in. Market is mkeant to buy and sell, not hide goods!

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braden

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May 20th 2011, 6:37:24

he is actually right, the same way i can not argue that rockman was right in his argument (my gsing my top country while he doesn't gs his gives me the clear advantage, we took nearly a hundred posts for me to understand, but i eventually did :P)

Havoc

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May 20th 2011, 12:57:19

yawn

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Bigwiggle

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May 20th 2011, 14:09:10

*slaps havoc*

No yawning in the office

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Dragon

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May 20th 2011, 15:06:26

Originally posted by KeTcHuP:

GSing into DR is for girly men. And Ketchup. ;)

Havoc

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May 20th 2011, 15:12:12

*falls asleep*

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Khavic25

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May 20th 2011, 15:20:27

Originally posted by Bigwiggle:

Originally posted by Khavic25:

Originally posted by Angryjesus:

Originally posted by Khavic25:

Gotta admit looking for those self farmers that let their DR's lapse when I logged in to play turns made the set more interesting...;)

So this is okay but looking for the person who has done an fa chain without hiding their stock is not?

i'm failing to see the difference

No DR camping does not have malicious intent. Did you have any land exchanges when your DR lapsed that you did not at least gain a few hundred acres on your retal? The country grabbing may have benefited more, but there were still gains by both.

Damn missed it

Havoc

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May 20th 2011, 15:35:40

Hm did a quick count up last night, NBK grabbed me 33 times this set. Over .666 times a day:)

And no not always khavic, most people put themselves in DR cause they know that every tag that might hit them doesnt have a country that they could make gains on a retal from.

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de1i

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May 20th 2011, 15:48:18

Most of the retals done by TKO at least were by people running countries specifically for it. Had the countries retalled for themself they would of had to buy up enough military that would of put them out of the ideal NW difference.

Havoc

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May 20th 2011, 15:53:44

Indeed, low land + low tech, military heavy 'netting' countries are a fluff to retal..

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Bigwiggle

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May 20th 2011, 19:12:56

Khavic, I personally haven't been DR camped. But I also don't run fat ones. When I think of DR camping I think of watching the low defense huge acre land farms that jump right up to 50k acres.. and if you hit a 50k acre country properly with a 20k acre country, there's no getting the back. To reiterate though, I don't think there's anything wrong with doing it. Getting too land fat is a netter's risk

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gambit

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May 20th 2011, 20:17:51

i think some people just enjoy seeing their own name in the little text letters :P

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DeDLySMuRF

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May 20th 2011, 20:27:05

Why doesn't everyone just shut the fluff up and give NBK some props for netgaining better than you all expected them to do without Self Farming.

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Khavic25

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May 20th 2011, 22:56:37

Wow Smurf, thanks. LOL

I just hope I can put a country in the top 100 now so we show that we can indeed net as well as war.

Damn missed it

KeTcHuP

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May 20th 2011, 23:14:57

lol Smurf, so far they are about on par, maybe slightly worse, then i expected and discussed with k4f start of set. Anyone who expected them to suck completely is idiots. Netting isnt hard when you try.

However there are way more countries in NBK trying to hurt other tags rather then net then i expected. (15k acres, 0 stock, grabbing)

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DeDLySMuRF

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May 20th 2011, 23:17:57

@KeTcHuP

15k acres, 0 stock, grabbing your under-defended countrys for there stock is a Strategy. And just as valid as any of the other Netting Strategies that you use.

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KeTcHuP

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May 20th 2011, 23:21:11

No. 0 stock, grabbing a 50k acre country is not a netting strategy with 2-3 weeks left.

week 2 to week 4 MAYBE even week 5 yes i agree with you its a strat. 2-3 weeks left, 0 stock, low land...... no its not a valid strat for netting. Its a strat to hurt others netting set, since even if i do retal and get my land back, the expense of rebuilding 5k acres on 50k acres is pretty high. What does the grabber gain? Hes got no stock, and isnt going to have any to destock at all so he gains practically nothing.

PS. Havoc, at least NBK grabbing they generally do have tech. Its IMP who grabs with 0 tech=P

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Bigwiggle

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May 21st 2011, 0:21:10

+1 ketchup

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de1i

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May 21st 2011, 0:31:37

Originally posted by DeDLySMuRF:

@KeTcHuP

15k acres, 0 stock, grabbing your under-defended countrys for there stock is a Strategy. And just as valid as any of the other Netting Strategies that you use.

lolllllllllllllll

DeDLySMuRF

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May 21st 2011, 1:34:57

Funny,

I laugh the same way about your "Self Farming and DR" strategies. But you'll defend it til you die, and create wierd hypotheticals to make it sound legit.

Atleast with the 15k Acre, 0 Stock strategy that I'm defending, I know I'm full of fluff... The Self Farmers on the other hand...

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Rockman

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May 21st 2011, 1:36:15

The existence of all-explore countries that do not grab is a weird hypothetical to Dedlysmurf. He's very out of touch with reality.

DeDLySMuRF

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May 21st 2011, 1:53:28

I've said it a million times already, and I'll say it once again...

If I decide to be a "Land Grabber"...
If I decide to be an "All Explorer"...
If I decide to be a "Self Farmer"...

In the end it shouldn't matter.

Because in the end, they should ALL be equally balanced. So someone that is an expert at Land Grabbing, should be able to compete with the expert Self Farmer.

If you can get to 750k acres Self Farming. They're SHOULD be a way to do it as an All Explorer and a Land Grabber...

I don't think that concept is to hard to follow...

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Popcom

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May 21st 2011, 2:14:03

to be fair, the ones in NBK with no stock, and still grabbing aren't doing it maliciously. most are new members, who are still getting a handle on the game as a whole. and we have been fluff slapping those who are hitting still and authorizing 2:1 ect on them.
not everyone is a vet and knows better. believe it or not, there's a few new ppl in the game :D

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KeTcHuP

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May 21st 2011, 4:08:22

I know i dont mind it much, but some of the guys who have no stock shouldnt be grabbing at this point. I offered a few tips through messages=) I like you NBKers! most of em anyhow=P.

And Smurf i agree with you somewhat:
-All X is the easiest, and takes the least effort. There is NO way a All-x should be able to compete with a grabber, or self farmer. If all-x (the simplest) could compete with a grabber, why would anyone ever grab?

-Grabbing and self farming being equal i can see being a fair argument. I didnt really self farm this set, and im a bit behind the self farmers. Theres not much land out there. Id be alright with the idea of a bottom/mid feeder being able to rack up the same land as a self farmer. THe things is when you do that you piss people off. Ive lost a few countries to that this set, and got suicidng on alot more. But its part of the game/risk.

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