i mean How many clan have went belly up
LEA < --- cheaters
SWORDs <--- wasnt ment to be
Adot <----- dunno what happen there
Sota <--- thats a good joke

what others was their......

The better members of SWORDS made PoD, where they're trying to grow at a more controlled pace and where they're generally building a much more respectable clan.

Many of the AoDTers I would guess are now in CC since Makinso seemed to be the real heart and soul of AoDT, although with the fact that they went away for at least a full set before DOOM was founded and eventually merged with SoF into CC, so AoDT going belly-up to some degree is definitely true.

And SOTA, well, it's hard to say they've gone belly up when you consider that in their Earth Empires history, they've never been anything worth mentioning.

do I really have to mention the obvious? the greatest alliance of EE FFA history..LaE/KA

AoDT--->Doom--->merged with CC. So AoDT is still partially alive.
No offence i never concidered SOTA an alliance.


BSS,THS,LaE/KA, Dynasty, Rome, Syn, TSE,EoEA are all gone without any direct decendents that i can think off of the top of my head.

Also take into accound ESDs come and gone, Mercs is new, salt is new, SF is new, ares is fairly new, PoD is newish.

If we go set to set using numbers that to break donw the balance of power: 250+countries=major player, 100-250 countries= has some influence and is a force, 50-100 countries is not that powerful but is probably involved in poltiics/a real clan. UNder 50 is small solo/2 member tags that generally dont shape too much
Clans with 250+ member, 100+ member, 50+ members
1st set: 1/5/11
2nd set: 2/3/9
3rd set: 2/5/6
4th set: 3/6/9 *TKO was almost 250 at 240something
5th set: 1/8/9 *LaE was barely 250 at 252, NBK and pan were close at 230,236
6th set: 1/7/9
7th set: 1/6/9
8th set: 3/6/7
9th set: 3/9/11

You can desingarlt see a trend. Early on lots of small tags, then they merged together, and now you arte seeing a bit of the strain on relations from that and some are branching off again.

I think FFA is in the healthiest state ever thatnks to the new clans. Ideally id say 3-4 clans in the 250-350 country range, with #1 to #2 being within 30 countries difference is ideal. The second tier ideally would be 6-8 large of clans between 100 to 200 countries, and then 3-4 small in the 50-100 range.

Obvioulsy when we grow the ideal balance of power will shift, as there will be more countries. But 1 clan up top (liek LaE for so long) isnt great. NBK and CC battling for power here is good for the server, and hopefully we can have 2-4 clans up top so no one clan can takeover and simply dictate what they want.

THats the opinion of a netter though, dont know if the warrers are different! But 9 clans with 100+ countries is great to see for a blaanced server!

I kinnda went on a tangent sorry m0b!

ps. those are set end numbers obviuously its slightly skewed. IE tag killed clans that dont CF will have lower numbers due to restarts not tagging etc.

When you consider the fact that we have hardly ANY new people coming into this game, and when some do, they're swiped within the first hour of their posting on FFAT. It makes it hard for anyone to recruit.

As far as FFA being in the healthiest state ever? What would really make this game healthy is having more clans, more countries, and MORE people playing. But, this game came around late 2009, when it should have come out mid-2007.

The 800 pound gorilla in the room is that this game never had THAT many players to begin with. Being able to run unlimited countries and subsequent utter cheating by POS's like Cham and others accounted for an extraordinarily high number of countries.

People like him (and others) really ruined this game to begin with. In our own ways, we all are culpable because none of us did enough to nurture new players and teach them the game and give them an environment to thrive.

I've been back for a little over a year now, and FWIW, I think this game is fundamentally better than ever but I just don't think it's possible to attract enough players to a text-based game in these times.

I WANT EE to succeed even if I quit playing tomorrow morning, and I applaud the guys who took this thing into their stewardship. They've give a lot of us "original players" a gateway to "back in the day". If nothing else, I respect them utterly for that.

Just make it unlimited and I will run 1k farms

heh...you don't already?

/me beats thunders ass

MORE!!

I agree Dragon, but the thing that kills me is that I see nearly entire contacts lists of people on AIM, ICQ and MSN who've been driven away from the old FFA, be it by bots, the two shutdowns, only having one admin/developer who couldn't be bothered to fix anything for fluff even it if netted him a few more dollars in the process. Or the fact that some tags (I'll throw SOTA in since I no longer have anything to do with it) just couldn't survive when there were two to four thousand country tags back then.

And the one thing that is still present in this game that was present in the previous version were these huge sons of fluffin' tags that account for a sizable chunk of this games players, while the smaller tags and their members are few and far between. Without any new blood this game will and loosely using your own words "degenerate into some form of cannibalism before it's over."

new players are coming slowely.
and we are seeing more small tags start up and thrive. look at Ares.
my hope is that EE is moving in the right direction

also, alliance has over 800 countries..thats 800ish people in theory. thats still a good player base. they all just have to start playing FFA :P

I have been trying to get some of the oldies that I know from back in the day to play again, but with some they don't want to get too involved again, because they fear bots or some absentee landlord of an admin (Mehul) won't do anything.

TTT

that funny with Dedly in that clan it will go to fluff in a hand basket soon enough

ll

With dedly instead of m0b in that clan it has a %10,000 better chance of success.

i blame the advancing technology

the kids today dont want to play a game that has no graphic violence... and damn sure dont want to play one that involves reading and math...

i say we start recruiting at elderly homes... all we need to do is talk to them and they would love us

/me smacks gamby...


leave my senior cits alone... i scour the old ppls homes for players...

THIS!