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posted by
trumper:
"Actually stood up to the bots and multies." I had my country killed and suicided on for reporting those very multies and bots on the moderator forums because some people had even cheated far enough to see the mod forums. Cheating was relegated to ingame and if you think that then you're woefully naive.
But none of that detracts from my overarching point that we're drawing cheating lines in the sand for political reasons. I don't care how much you hate Laf. Some of them cheated and should be punished, but by not all of them. When we have a game that can't come within 1/20th of the size it was before is when shouldn't be chaseing away a couple dozen players. It's the mentality that you got an infection in the toe so chop off the entire leg, it's ridiculous and blatantly politicla.
You don't have to acknowledge the political aspect of it. I get that you want to be seen holding some fictional moral highground. That's fine. Maintain the bravado publicly, but in private work for a real solution that doesn't chase away a large number of clean players. Do what's right behind the scenes.
Ok. I'll acknowledge the fact that someone had unauthorized access to the mod forums. I'll also acknowledge that servers outside the game had been hacked as well (Gamerstown, MacDamon's cheat detection service, EarthStats (sort of) etc). I had forgotten about those.
Still, what makes the current gangbang against LaF so different from, say, the Big6 against Elitez or Coalition X vs RD? Other than the fact that there were several thousand more countries playing back then. Is it the fact that in this case, only 2 people were involved? Back then, it only took ONE person to run a hundred bots. What about SOL's FS on NA when its leader was marginally involved in the LaE cheating scandal on FFA a couple years ago?
BTW, IIRC, I've never denied the political aspect of it. I have no moral high ground to stand on, being I'm not participating in this fight. I'm just saying, political or not, some of the community has decided to hit the reset button on LaF's recent accomplishments. And, looking at Big6, SOL vs. NA, and other events in history, this has happened before, and will happen again.