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Requiem

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Jan 11th 2014, 15:25:43

So you cannot kill a country because it restarts with almost everything but you can BR someone 19,114 buildings in 13 BR's. If you assume 2 turns per attack that's 26 turns to ruin (lets assume 100 bpt) 191 turns worth of play. And over 3b dollars worth of building costs.

Let's over power suciders and under power war clans. Good job Qz/Pang. This is the stuff that ruins this game...

BR 14229 C/1210 B
BR 14899 C/1252 B
BR 15572 C/1293 B
BR 16313 C/1338 B
BR 16993 C/1378 B
BR 17751 C/1424 B
BR 18559 C/1472 B
BR 19352 C/1517 B
BR 20193 C/1566 B
BR 21026 C/1612 B
BR 21822 C/1654 B
BR 22300 C/1671 B
BR 23296 C/1727 B

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Vic

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Jan 11th 2014, 15:28:25

it's all tellarion's fault i just know it!

GodHead Dibs

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Jan 11th 2014, 15:31:01

buy moar turrets? have a member of the clan stand guard duty? make tellarion approve all attacks?

Dibs Ludicrous was here.

tellarion

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Jan 11th 2014, 15:34:22

Originally posted by GodHead Dibs:

buy moar turrets? have a member of the clan stand guard duty? make tellarion approve all attacks?

Then the only person able to attack would be me. 200k acres incoming!

oldman

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Jan 11th 2014, 15:34:38

hmm, that news looks familiar -_-

GodHead Dibs

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Jan 11th 2014, 15:39:17

just out of curiosity, if a target is land killed, do they come back with 70% of 0 acres?

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Riddler

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Jan 11th 2014, 15:42:07

Godhead, ask that pank in the RD tag

GodHead Dibs

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Jan 11th 2014, 15:44:48

it's an open question. the RD pank should be able to respond here.

Dibs Ludicrous was here.

tellarion

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Jan 11th 2014, 15:45:13

I believe they receive the standard minimum restart bonus that we have always had.

Although if they PS their military away and then die, it doesn't come back :P

Edited By: tellarion on Jan 11th 2014, 15:50:56

GodHead Dibs

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Jan 11th 2014, 15:50:55

they come back with 100 acres plus 70% of whatever else they had?

Dibs Ludicrous was here.

tellarion

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Jan 11th 2014, 15:52:04

Originally posted by GodHead Dibs:

they come back with 100 acres plus 70% of whatever else they had?

No, they come back with more than that. I don't know the exact formula, but the same minimum restart formula from previous sets is still in effect. I think they usually come back with like 4k acres or something at this point in the set.

GodHead Dibs

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Jan 11th 2014, 15:58:55

yep. get rid of killing then you're stuck with the pank hanging around trying to ruin the reset that ends with your country being a bloated fat ass worth millions. if only you could afford to ship it somewhere.

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KoHeartsGPA

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Jan 11th 2014, 17:50:45

Lol, they turned the game into a suiciders dream haha

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Forgotten

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Jan 11th 2014, 18:07:40

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:

Lol, they turned the game into a suiciders dream haha

What if that was the goal?

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DFA

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Jan 11th 2014, 18:22:25

I personally think this is a major problem, killers cant war, netters face suicide risk ruining weeks of building their countries to get to stocking phase.

Requiem

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Jan 11th 2014, 18:35:09

Originally posted by GodHead Dibs:

buy moar turrets?

Drink more please.

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Cable

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Jan 11th 2014, 18:36:25

I try to stay off AT too much Bullfluff, but Req's right, these new restart rules is great for the guys in SoL who die 5-6 times a set. Convient that Dragon dies in 10 seconds, KRs are nerfed. Now retstarts are super boosted.... 2 sets ago this game went down hill and now its just spiraling out of control.

Wonder if new suicider's will join and out way the number of players who quit from the crap?

E2025

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Jan 11th 2014, 18:39:35

Originally posted by Cable:

We can only hope :D

Forgotten

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Jan 11th 2014, 18:40:03

These new restart rules would be great on PRIMARY server, where all the noobs will be playing.

I just hope they came out to tell us that we were basically the beta server for this change.

Else, even the most insane netters will be quitting soon.

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E2025

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Jan 11th 2014, 18:41:03

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

GodHead Dibs

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Jan 11th 2014, 18:41:43

Originally posted by Requiem:

Originally posted by GodHead Dibs:

buy moar turrets?

Drink more please.

think that if people are properly notified about the changes, then they can decide if they want to play that set. if they don't like the rule changes, then they can take a break.

Dibs Ludicrous was here.

TheJoker

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Jan 11th 2014, 18:44:53

Originally posted by E2025:

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

I enjoy watching things burn.

KoHeartsGPA

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Jan 11th 2014, 20:41:28

Burn alliance burn!

GodHead Dibs

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Jan 11th 2014, 20:48:26

must be a witch if it burns like a duck.

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Heston

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Jan 11th 2014, 20:59:39

Or a whore who is down to fluff.

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elvesrus

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Jan 11th 2014, 21:10:01

That's not the fun burn...

Originally posted by crest23:

Elves is a douche on every server.

Requiem

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Jan 11th 2014, 22:54:51

Originally posted by elvesrus:

That's not the fun burn...

QFT

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archaic

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Jan 12th 2014, 0:09:39

I hate agreeing with Requiem . . . .

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braden

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Jan 12th 2014, 0:15:58

HI ARCHAIC

join up with locket, then you two can hate agreeing with req together!! :(

Requiem

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Jan 12th 2014, 1:10:06

Originally posted by archaic:

I hate agreeing with Requiem . . . .

Sorry I do that sometimes.

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kwannn

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Jan 12th 2014, 1:29:53

we should get religious buildings which increase the amount of things we get recovered when we restart

by the way my country is called Raise Dead on Restart

mrford

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Jan 12th 2014, 3:13:51

realistically, if you cant wall within the first 50 hits, so the first few seconds, you might as well die.

in most cases it is much better to just lose 30% of your fluff, than to have that fluffty ass production for 2-3 days. this is of course if you are out of stock. and if you dont have anything PSed lol

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Kalick

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Jan 12th 2014, 3:26:48

Originally posted by mrford:

This is about right. If you are out of stock, it is probably better to just die and restart.

Prior to these changes you would stonewall no matter what, as long as your could hold out for. If they had GSed all your troops away and you had no cash, you would start selling other military and spies on the private market to generate some funds to do something with. Maybe drop land to increase SPAL and techs. If you were to do that this reset, you will probably end up losing more military walling than you would just rolling over and letting them kill you. Now it is sometimes better to just get killed, absorb the 250 hits, and restart with 70%. Not a lot of incentive to fight to keep yourself alive.

kwannn

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Jan 12th 2014, 3:36:38

I restarted and read the in-game update "30,158 survivors emerge out of the ruins" and LOLed

tellarion

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Jan 12th 2014, 3:43:38

Originally posted by Cable:

I'm pretty sure that based on this set and the previous one that sof is benefitting more from the restart change than sol is.....

KoHeartsGPA

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Jan 12th 2014, 4:10:28

Originally posted by kwannn:

I restarted and read the in-game update "30,158 survivors emerge out of the ruins" and LOLed

Must of been a huge city! Lol

SakitSaPuwit

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Jan 12th 2014, 10:08:20

Please keep the changes, it makes this game much better for people like me.

but what do i know?
I only play this game for fun!

tenshim0

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Jan 12th 2014, 10:47:37

lol, im going untag next set and blow up the world :)

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Requiem

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Jan 12th 2014, 15:00:38

Originally posted by SakitSaPuwit:

Please keep the changes, it makes this game much better for people like me.

Originally posted by tenshim0:

lol, im going untag next set and blow up the world :)

This is a sucider game.

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King_Cobra1

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Jan 12th 2014, 15:52:32

lmfao just think of the potential for dropping tag and stock hunting the last two weeks of set. Lmfao even if they kill you come back with 70% of your stuff. LOL Omg hey got my buildings don't worry I still have 20 mil jets :P

Marshal

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Jan 12th 2014, 16:41:44

Originally posted by King_Cobra1:

LOL Omg hey got my buildings don't worry I still have 20 mil jets :P

unless those were ps'd out.

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qzjul

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Jan 12th 2014, 19:14:11

Originally posted by DFA:

I personally think this is a major problem, killers cant war, netters face suicide risk ruining weeks of building their countries to get to stocking phase.

You know we didn't increase BR's at all right? They're right back where they were in E2025 days =/

Finally did the signature thing.

qzjul

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Jan 12th 2014, 19:15:43

Originally posted by Requiem:

Let's over power suciders and under power war clans. Good job Qz/Pang. This is the stuff that ruins this game...

Also, lots of people said they were underpowered when we made them ramping. That it underpowered this or that &etc...

Can't please everybody =/

Finally did the signature thing.

NukEvil

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Jan 12th 2014, 19:26:05

Your tears are delicious to me. Please cry some more.

I am a troll. Everything I say must be assumed to be said solely to provoke an exaggerated reaction to the current topic. I fully intend to bring absolutely no substance to any discussion, ongoing or otherwise. Conversing with me is pointless.

Requiem

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Jan 12th 2014, 23:45:48

Originally posted by qzjul:

Originally posted by Requiem:

Let's over power suciders and under power war clans. Good job Qz/Pang. This is the stuff that ruins this game...

Also, lots of people said they were underpowered when we made them ramping. That it underpowered this or that &etc...

Can't please everybody =/

I don't think you should ever aim to even address anything suciders say. That's just my opinion. That is unless you want an alliance server that is just full of suciders. It's your game you decide.

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KoHeartsGPA

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Jan 13th 2014, 0:05:42

Originally posted by qzjul:

Originally posted by Requiem:

Let's over power suciders and under power war clans. Good job Qz/Pang. This is the stuff that ruins this game...

Also, lots of people said they were underpowered when we made them ramping. That it underpowered this or that &etc...

Can't please everybody =/

The changes are fluff, I just got a guy that did a RoR in a solo server with minutes left in the set, I started to unload missiles and after the 8th nuke the stupid humanitarians blocked me cuz he is too "small" uhm, he was only $600k less than me and more land... WTF??? I know its another server, but WTF!!!!!

General TwizTid

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Jan 13th 2014, 0:55:37

I think a back to square one is in order.

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KoHeartsGPA

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Jan 13th 2014, 2:05:06

Sup Twiz!!!!!

Serpentor

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Jan 13th 2014, 7:23:20

TwizTid got it right.

Here is the other solution. If enough guys play solo suiciders next set, the amount of suiciding will bring it all to attention at how effective a suicider can be even when killed over and over and over.

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Jelly

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Jan 13th 2014, 7:31:57

SO LIKE HOW LAF HAD TO GO ABUSE LAND TRADING BEFORE THE BUILDING COST CHANGE, WE MUST ASK LAF TO ALL RUN SUICIDERS! THUS, SUICIDING WILL BE FIXED.

SOMEONE GET A HOLD OF EUGENE, AND ASK HIM TO MAKE ALL OF LAF TO SUICIDE NEXT RESET.

JELLY