Not remotely true? Vic, I greatly discount your top 5 finish when you get aided up the ass. I see two sets I won by over $50M with no FA/Market aid at all.

Fourteenth round: Feb 04, 2012 - Apr 04, 2012
Rank Country Land Networth Special Clan
1 Mr Titanium (#250) 71,286 $283,446,269 DG ResDogs - Mine
2 Riverbend (#285) 87,000 $278,034,169 HG ResDogs

Fifteenth round: Apr 05, 2012 - Jun 04, 2012
Rank Country Land Networth Special Clan
1 Mr Titanium (#16) 57,406 $283,446,270 DG ResDogs - Mine
2 AzN (#172) 85,302 $237,071,565 CG NeoFed

Sixteenth round: Jun 05, 2012 - Aug 05, 2012
Rank Country Land Networth Special Clan
1 No More Club Z Points (#113) 97,150 $269,060,269 HG RD
2 London Bridge Is Falling Down (#43) 70,398 $260,839,509 DG RD - Mine

Seventeenth round: Aug 05, 2012 - Oct 04, 2012
Rank Country Land Networth Special Clan
1 Mr Quagmire (#385) 52,251 $271,125,272 DG ResDogs - Mine
2 Pyroclastic Flow (#7) 21,848 $198,720,992 DG LaF

Twentieth round: Feb 04, 2013 - Apr 06, 2013
Rank Country Land Networth Special Clan
1 LET THE BOY WATCH (#288) 95,419 $436,873,090 HG LaF
2 dINGLEberries (#163) Game profile 96,289 $395,250,882 HG LaF
3 JUST WARI BEING WARI (#24) Game profile 150,201 $391,371,066 HG Paradigm
4 Getting Too Old For This (#68) 107,601 $385,250,234 HG ResDogs
5 Mr Darkness (#463) 87,285 $377,344,769 DG ResDogs - Mine


Twenty-third round: Aug 06, 2013 - Oct 05, 2013
Rank Country Land Networth Special Clan
1 Dragon Knight Sword (#313) 77,115 $274,856,837 HG LaF
2 HAnlOng2 (#112) Game profile 37,776 $258,608,350 DG ResDogs
3 Love Acturally (#55) 42,585 $230,345,540 DG ResDogs
4 HEINOUS HAILSTONE (#276) 46,460 $209,534,762 DG TheOmega
5 Still Singaporean Leh (#246) 56,473 $203,912,656 HG TheOmega
6 Dingalingalingading (#397) 44,021 $192,839,828 DG ResDogs - Mine

I should mention that 6th place finish in round 23, I wasn't really netting, aided out a ton and got suicided pretty bad.

I thought your top alliance achievements were while RD was land trading and the other big netting alliances weren't

I wrote the book on landtrading, everyone is doing it now, with my book.

But the reason they didn't do it before I thought was because they had "ethical dilemmas" or they thought it was "poor sportsmanship" or something, not that nobody else could figure it out. Not that I care, it's nobler than DR camping imo.

And to clarify, I had a handful of wins, and many top 10 finishes in E2025 when landtrading didn't exist.

I'd say exactly 0 of those were legit, but neither was anyone else in the top 10.

I think the fact that the same alliances that had "ethical dilemmas" or didn't trade either started trading or didn't/ couldn't do anything about it- makes those finishes as valid as any other set.

FFA was land trading way before 1a ever did it. Why are you pretending you created anything.

The finishes are valid, they just don't demonstrate a vastly superior level of skill or whatever.

Where did I say I created it exactly? I said I wrote the book on it. I made it a good viable strategy, better than anything else.

Show me someone who has done better than 1st 1st 2nd 1st on another server in 4 sets, not including myself

Anyways we can close this thread now. Clearly I am the greatest there is over every was.

Feel free to open up another thread as a shrine to my greatness.

lol i didn't receive massive FA in any sort, in fact i received less than the #1 finisher that reset.
and i wasn't referring to that set, i was referring to many other sets where you didn't finish 1st in rd. you claimed you finished 1st for RD every single reset since you played. that's not true. plaid beat you another set as well

You mean you used the book llaar wrote on land trading, and then improved on it by cheating?

somebody katyusha rocket him already, for the love of the old testament lord, please?
where is the sanhedrin when you fluffing need it?

"I think I'm the highest RD finisher every set besides one in which Silver got 1st and I was 2nd."
that isn't true, seth.
stop getting so sour and aggressive.

Pretty sure he didnt use trading for all his finishes, especially early so what exactly makes those not worthwhile?

And Vic, Tits is one of those I'd list before anyone who hasnt even gotten a win in EE alliance.

i thought there was some contention, even in rd, about whether or not he had 'friend' countries aiding that set / and used land farms.

again, i like seth, i'm just saying what the buzz was on AT when i searched back that far

I think I proved it wasn't true when I posted 3 sets in which I wasn't the top RD finisher. I forgot about a couple sets that are noted above.

Although the set silver beat me by $8milNW i gave him a loan earlier in the set that was greater than that difference that was never repaid

and to my knowledge seth has never finished in primary has he? those other guys all have

lol you have any idea how many loans + tech i gave out the set i got 2nd? don't call that into play !

Don't even start that fluff. I didn't receive aid in any of those scores I posted above that would move me down 1 spot in the rankings.

I gave the aid to the guy who finished 1st :P

sure, leave it to the hisidic to call on an unpaid loan how many years later?

you're lucky it aint it the thirties and this isn't continental europe

smlandau84, RD finishes haven't counted since like 2000.

i believe you dude it's cool

IM DA BEST IN THE GAME fluff SON DONT BE TRIPN' LIKE YOU ALL WAYS DO EEERRRRR K. I FENNA GO OUT AND SMASH SOME NOOBS NOW. KTHXBAI

Seth won't open his profile, I wonder what he's been up to. You been attacking me in Primary at all Seth?

this thread is nice it's filling up like an e2025 thread.
you cool now seth?

also how would seth know who you are in primary ?

Don't take my fluff talk personally Vic, you know better than that.

And no, the last time I finished primary was probably 1999. It's too slow and boring, I've never liked it.

And no blid, I'm not playing anywhere but 1a, and only played primary once in the last 10+ year - that set when i use my no lube strategy on Bobby

lol i don't take anything you say personally, i enjoy your fluff talk

overall i enjoy you and think you are a positive presence in EE

go cross the border to iran.

He needs more posts. Loosing street cred.

There's no way I'm a positive influence for the game. That's total BS Vic.

i think he should vacation in tehran for like thirty six hours

lol@ braden!

also seth, you are totally wrong! you spice things up it's good

it;s funny because they'd hang him in twelve. so where does he spend the next twenty four?

Saying bakku and I followed your landtrading strat is like LaF claiming ownership for every techer to ever finish top ten.

I believe there was a RD/LAF trading thread where people said any advice would be welcome, as no one in LaF had traded before. If anyone wants to take credit for my finish that set I would say Rockman actually helped me the most. I do find it funny that people think trading is difficult, as bakku and myself both finished 390m+ on our very first attempt.

I will say the reset I finished 330m on a techer (Xin made 365m) was by far the most difficult country I've played, especially considering no one has sniffed 300m on a techer since that set (despite lots of FA).

Hanlong is by far the best i've seen going around. He has won this server in EE and E2025 with all the strats and not just the one style. I think he was up to about 7 or 8 alliance server wins and thats over the different periods that he's played the game.

Just saying none of my t10's in Laf and MKR i think it was later on in E2025 alliance servers were shiesty....


Samzx i believes would have a strong claim to being the best going around also.

I like the countries Vincey and Osso both throw up all the time... Landtrading and non landtrading they do well.

smlandau84's top finishes aren't impressive at all the nw's were very low for land trading and are before landtrading even got nerfed (good finishes still) so from the outside strat wise it looks like his skill levels are around that of mine (which i don't rate in the top 10 or so going around or that have been around) I played a far from perfect trader and passed 320m nw myself with ease... and this set was likely headed for 280ish after nerfs with a slightly better played trader than that set. I would like to see some of ur non trading finishes though for a better gauge.

(i haven't looked outside LaF very often in the last 9 years though... because when we netted there really wasnt much of a challenge for rank 1 outside of LaF)

Xin, Hao, Bakku, SS, Eugene, SG, cm, aqua and Reignz to me were the next tier behind those t2

followed by the rest of us hacks. (btw my T10's on the alliance servers have been with non trading techers, farmers and cashers and also trading farmers)

en4 i do feel that hanlong is one of the best ever but i'm talking about guys playing now.

oh and i FA'ed hanlong to his first win in 2003
(the guy below him received more FA)

cm as in cookie monster or candyman ?

the original CM in LaF .... i think he may have been one of the highschool group of friends in LaF....

phew

that set the tech prices were insanely god like and people were still trying to figure out the market play that i had developed a few sets prior.



as far as laf netters go - i think hanlong is basically the same as hao2. most of hanlong's wins came in war sets when he started to farm far before others in laf were. hao2 does pretty much the same thing where he starts grabbing way before everyone else and puts in a pretty shiesty war performance. i wouldn't say that the land is being wasted when it goes to either of them, but as far as "skill" goes i dont find it very impressive when someone gets a large amount of free land and posts a good networth (this is akin to receiving free land by taking retals for others or landtrading). its not hard and nobody should really be impressed.

samxz basically netted in a period when there was virtually no netting competition. he did do quite well the one time there was competition, but he fell short due to some poor grabs that resulted in him getting AB'd a bit. he did win a few times, but with no competition its about as good as LT or candyman's win. when nobody cares about the netting set, then nobody cares about the win.



if bakku were still playing he would be my personal choice. nobody good cares about netting right now so you see all these people who pretty much suck at netting make t10 now. therefore, i would say that making t10 in the last few sets proves absolutely nothing regarding your netting abilities.


as far as the people who have been trading prior to laf did it for a couple sets: you guys are an absolute joke as well. you can barely beat our scrubs and you're absolutely no match for people in laf who are good and dont give a crap about the set. lol.



regarding the "last good techer set". i want to note that the tech market has changed dramatically since that set due to server politics. we will probably never see a techer set like that ever again. this is due entirely to politics.

lots of people know how to play the game, it just depends on who is most dedicated/lucky.

Tag protection doesnt hurt either.

Bonus post!

En4cer RD was putting plenty of pressure on 1st place finishes in the last while before the day I shall not speak of :P

And I find it funny that anyone is talking like they beat Ershow without FA 2-3 sets ago.

But in reality Hanlong and Xin are the only ones worth talking about and maybe Oldman too. Hanlong was an ass but he played all strats well. After them it doesnt matter.

fluffing geeks

Tits, I think your finishes also show the importance of politics in good finishes. How many of your rank 1 finishes took place in server war sets?? It's much easier to win when the usual suspects like laf, evo an omega are all busy warring...

tella from the lack of NW i saw in his finishes thats what i was thinking too... Eugene i thought HLW only did the early hitting on that 400m nw set ???

Outside that i thought he was amongst our top countries going in and was breaking for us in any of those other war sets.

Locket please point me in the right direction for the Ershow set please too so i can take a look