I'm still in the learning phases of the game, and especially a casher. I can see already that I stopped my growth too early, as I'm only at about 25k acres, but I'm going to make the most of what I've got. I'm sitting on about 120mil bushels, and watching the market creep up, most likely from that tyrant making his jump? So I'm just wondering, is it too soon to jump and try to resell? Should I even be that worried about prices going up on the market or do people just focus on the private market for the most part?

Need more info. Are you a rep casher? If so keep stocking. Demo casher? Market play can help, and going DMBR might be a good idea, but not quite yet. The casher? Why? :P Dict casher? Should've kept grabbing.

Granseal almost certainly jumped too soon. I think he may have been a little confused abou timing, it's his first set back in a long time.

I most certainly jumped about 3 or 4 days to soon it seems; however, even as a non-demo I have done a really good job of squeezing another 1B out by reselling these turrets. So fellas keep buying!

Mathematically, I lose out of 7M networth going to early. If you account for the extra 1M i gained to far from reselling (which I wouldn't have done if I was still teching) that leaves me at 6M lower networth than I could have been. On another note, it may have allowed me to outrun a few countries who were going to potentially nuke me down as I'm non-GDI. Only time will tell but I'd be willing to bet I may not even have made it out of the blocks if I hadn't jumped when I did. Next time, GDI for sure and that will allow me the safety of jumping later.

SkyKing: You jumped with about 16 days left in the set, which is too early (at least for this set; optimal changes each set). Your optimal move would likely have been the following:
a) tech for another 5 days (8.5k tpt including allies*5 days*$1800*94% gives you another $4b)
b) You would jump with about 11 days left in the set and probably at about 21-22m NW at this point. Place all your food on sale on the public market; put 1/4 of all your military and tech on sale for high prices; and convert to a theocracy. You will lose about 25% of your NW from this switch in government but you get a cheaper private market ($222/nw)
c) I'm assuming you had about $7b to jump from 20m to 50m assuming $230/nw from the public market and maybe still have $1b left. Add that to the $4b you get from teching 5 extra days, you will have about $12b to spend after your bushels sell (being conservative here and assuming you sell your bushels at no gain or loss; could be either way depending on market prices). $12b will get you about 53M nw from your PM over a period of about 8 days.
d) resell for the last 3 days or so.

Starting NW prior to jump: 21M NW
NW after conversion to theocracy: 15.75M NW (assumes 25% loss, should be less)
NW after jumping from PM for 8 days: 15.75 + 53 = 68.75M NW
NW after reselling for last 3 days = ~70M NW (assumes a gain of about 500k/day from reselling)

That should probably be at least 10M higher than what you are going to finish I believe.

Demo casher

I guess I'll have to read Oldman's post again.

I love the grabbing part of a set but stocking is not my forte and de-stocking is absolutely my Achilles heel. Hopeless. :(

I almost never convert. By going early I got a ton of jets and turrets at sub 120 prices. At .6 NW vs the .5 NW at 120 for troops thats a 20% increase on NW based upon equal money. Plus I resold a ton of turrets to add an additional 1M networth. I do agree a could have stocked 2 or 3 more days. More importantly I could have grabbed more aggressively early in the set.

Well skyking, when oldman gives advice, you should take it. ;)

He has won this server 7 times, the next closest is afaik at 4 times.

Yah, oldman is worth listening to.

Oh, I'm not saying he is wrong by any means but this advice is mostly irrelevant if I had no intention of converting.

The question is did I jump too early as a straight techer who had no intention of converting. The answer is clearly yes. I just laid out some rationale for why I made the move. Avoiding retals and jumping on cheap market goods. Who knows how it might have played out if I waited. Maybe someone with strong spy ops demoralizes my entire country, although my spal is probably more than adequate.

Yeah, the idiot known as theannonymousone is busy ruining someone else's set, so you were probably safe. He's the only suicider left these days.

Oh look! A nice and informative thread that crest posted in. Maybe he gave some good advice! Nope, he just called someone an idiot and complained about something, as always!

I usually do a straight destockoff my PM. I calculate my PM replenishment rate (3 troops, 2.5 jets, 2.5 turrets, 1 tank, per acre, per turn) and factor in the initial PM purchase as well, then compare those numbers to my stock. Once they line up, that is when i destock. Depending on my stock I destock anywhere from 2 to 12 days from the end of the set. Every one is different. This is just the easiest and laziest way to destock efficiently. And I'm not a great netter, I don't dedicate the time to grabbing and reselling and whatnot. Only time I ever resell is when I fluffed my destock calcs up and destoc too early lol. Also, I don't play primary.

Then get off the fkn thread. How about you come talk about netting when you can play a better country than Marshall. He's even beating you at number of posts.

umadbro?

Lol classic crest. I love it man.

fordy is netter, i'm not.

Wow, and he can barely play a better country than you.

usuckbro?

fordy has more t100 finishes than me.

ford be easy on crest, at least the nigerian nightmare isn't burning down our cities complaining about welfare entitlements. yet. #yolo


agreed with everyone on oldman he is the dude.

having said that i also would have jumped early if i was non gdi. wise move.

Any in a server that matters? As in, none FFA. $100 says Marshall will answer, make that $1000.

FFA matters, it's just crest can't handle the playing requirements of 16 countries :P

If FFA mattered, the game developers would take it into account anytime they changed game mechanics :-D

IF the solo servers mattered , the game developers would take it into account anytime they changed game mechanics :P

They removed offensive allies in solo servers. Your move Sherlock. Wtf,where's Marshall?

they added 1 country to the limit in FFA so tech rings would work, they didnt add the killing changes to ffa, they changed Aid in ffa so you could send to your own countries without allying them



your move Sherlock :P

' they changed Aid in ffa so you could send to your own countries without allying them'

WTF!!

Goes to experiment..

So several non-GDI countries have attempted to spy me. Whatever I end up having NW wise I'm sure I'll be pounded down, terrific.

you do it from the control panel

That is awesome, did not know that! And to learn it from a Primary thread!

lol@buttman

crest: alliance fordy 3 me 2, primary 1-0, express 85-0, ffa 14-4. team not counted since there ain't 100 players.

conclusion: MRFORD IS DIRRRRRRRRRRRTY TREEHUGGER.

They removed all allies from Express, removed OAs from Primary (2 separate solo servers I might add). We educate FFA players (BUTTMAN, Marshall) from the Primary thread. Unfortunately some are too dumb to be educated (mrford), but that cannot be held against solo servers. Also, all the changes in every server that is not a direct impact of Alliance politics occurred because solo servers/players requested them. Game, set, match.

And I swear, if Captain Obvious does not respond like ASAP, I'm going to be posting up a missing person request and calling 911.

Missing person request because he must be missing if he hasn't posted this long. 911, because if he is deliberately holding back from posted, his head will explode from the pressure.

There he is! All is right with the world now, phew, I almost dialed 911 just now. To make top 100 in Express, you just need to come out of protection. All that means is that you haven't come out of protection in express because you are running your 300 countries in FFA. ford on the other hand can play all the server because he's got no life, job, woman, anything going for him in the RW.

Well not necessarily lol. Here are the top 5 finishing NWs across ALL resets in the last 4 years:

Top 5 No-GDI records
(Round 14) 7 Incha (#26) 46,821 $111,784,732 R - Reroll (Rep Casher No-GDI)
(Round 8) 2 gimme land (#274) 42,804 $101,917,129 C - bakku (Commie Indy no-GDI)
(Round 8) 3 Grease Monkeys (#40) 22,012 $97,325,950 D
(Round 10) 6 Hushovd GarminCervelo (#127) 27,952 $96,346,042 H - grimstad (Commy Indy no-GDI, suicided jumped as Theo)
(Round 22) 7 Commies get fat and win (#179) 57,076 $95,157,355 C - ingle (Commie Indy - No GDI)

You can do many things from a control panel, I've done my girlfriend on one....

lol@crest & kohn00b

old FFA players requested the return of the FFA server and thats what we got, so ffa wins :P

Lol, look how pathetic and full of anger you are. I only play 2 servers seriously and they are usually all-x. You probably put more effort into your countries than I do. Easily.

Vic and ford, thanks for the tips. Everyone else, thanks for the entertainment you provided on this hijacked thread lol

Our pleasure!