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qzjul Game profile

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May 8th 2015, 17:35:39

Thoughts? For those who have played in Alliance / Express or FFA, there have been bots there for a few sets.


What do you guys think?
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May 8th 2015, 19:32:06

not until they stop fluffing up market.
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May 8th 2015, 20:16:36

They are Definitely not ready for this server

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May 8th 2015, 22:45:26

No way jose. Unless you set them all to fire missile which tyhey will have many for after gdi break :)
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May 9th 2015, 1:39:29

Resounding F U C K N O!


We don't wanna piss on this server too, do we now....
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May 9th 2015, 2:59:05

Is it not going over well on the others? I would think if they are balanced in strats, it would take the attack load off most of the real players who are now being multi tapped like crazy.

No harm in trying for 1 set.
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May 9th 2015, 2:59:43

Also if you slowly phased them in, we'd never know anyways.
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May 9th 2015, 3:00:56

BEcomes a farm-fest. People identify bots and then spend all reset farming them. It has ruined Express as "smart" people start juts doing this:
http://www.eestats.com/express/country/1
100% of his attacks are bots. Real Grabbing doesn't even exist anymore for some people

Maybe in Pimrary it works better if people grow out of humanitarian range from the bots quickly.

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May 9th 2015, 3:06:31

Serp, go play express for couple sets and report back to this topic ;-)
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May 9th 2015, 5:39:53

Hmmm well maybe your right. I'm not playing anymore than one country on this server though, so I'll take your word for it.
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May 9th 2015, 6:15:18

Don't want any bots on Primary man..
other than the farming, this is like one of the few servers where the market interaction is still fun..bots screw up the market too much in express

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May 9th 2015, 13:14:27

the bots in alliance seem alright

Marshal Game profile

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May 9th 2015, 14:22:38

ironxxx: that's because half a server is warring (and heaviest farmers are amongst those) so bots can't screw up market (not that its screwed anyways since techs are selling at crappy price).
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May 9th 2015, 14:49:13

Seems like qz could create like 10 bots or something small and see their impact.

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May 9th 2015, 16:16:43

NO to bots.
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May 9th 2015, 16:21:27

Actually I was thinking about it. Humanenatarian in Primary is 4x right? Bots wouldnt be abused as much then.

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May 9th 2015, 18:45:03

Originally posted by BobbyATA:
Seems like qz could create like 10 bots or something small and see their impact.


Like I said to Serp, go play express couple sets and report back to this thread.
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May 9th 2015, 20:08:29

If you want a 300acre explore button join ALLIANCE / FFA / EXPRESS. Just say NO to bots!
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May 11th 2015, 18:00:27

is the pope catholic ? ;P
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May 11th 2015, 20:44:21

no

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May 11th 2015, 21:50:53

Originally posted by qzjul:
Thoughts? For those who have played in Alliance / Express or FFA, there have been bots there for a few sets.


What do you guys think?


why would u want that, do not comprehend..

qzjul Game profile

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May 12th 2015, 15:48:02

Well, I'll wait then until they're a little smarter ;)
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May 12th 2015, 15:49:44

What does anyone think about I think the bots will fall out of the 4x humane territory very fast.

Then it would be the weaker players who will grab them only. And these weak players are the vessles, and pass the land up to the top players threw them. I chanegd my mind. I think the bots arent ready for Express but are ok for Primary because of the humane territyory difference. A top player could never farm bots all round in the Primary. They wont hrut this server.

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May 12th 2015, 16:10:04

Good point Earf

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May 13th 2015, 19:11:28

k so given i fixed the *food* thing that celphi is on about, what now? haha
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May 14th 2015, 0:01:27

I say yes to trying bots here. I was thinking exactly what earf said as far as the upward land chain. The higher NW netters are going to outgrow the bots pretty quick, allowing the middle to lower NW countries to have more land to send up. I also don't think the market impact would be that noticeable either, given the amount of turns per day in primary. The only way to know is to try it for a set. :)

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May 14th 2015, 0:58:54

i think as long as bots don't try to keep the maket to low I mean with all sale items it always sucks when your playing any strat and your selling something at the going rate for my example oil your selling at 100 when the market is at 118 so you are pretty sure that your oil will be the next oil on the market so you can play your turns then BAM someone sells at 85? maybe to try to keep the market lower who knows but we or atleast I don't what a bot dumping a huge quantity of anything at a much lower price making you either wait it our or recall your goods and sell again in anther 4-6 hours.

I understand this is a game so when a real person undersells the market or dose a buy out witch doesn't happen on solo servers. Its is game play but when I bot dose it then that is a computer trying to control the free market.
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May 14th 2015, 4:11:17

Please don't screw up the farmers here too.



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Serpentor Game profile

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May 15th 2015, 4:29:09

What if they were self sufficient crap rainbows? Lol
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Marshal Game profile

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May 15th 2015, 15:20:18

there are rainbow bots on other servers and it makes situation worse.
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BobbyATA Game profile

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May 16th 2015, 2:50:07

how can they screw up markets if they presumably never get bigger than 5k acres or so?

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May 16th 2015, 2:58:25

After much contemplation, I have decided there will be bots in Primary. We will have 1 set to test their field worthiness.

I would like KoH to act as Turf Management, keep the bots safe and unmolested by land wh0res.

There are plenty of Market Masters in Primary, so the issues experienced elsewhere will likely find balance here.

For mid and low level countries, bots provide the ability to hone their SS and PS skills on bots, who as of yet do not retal, this could provide more than simple acreage. Many of the more experienced will move well above the bots so there is little to worry about. As far as suicides on the bots, whoever is dumb enough, or beyond bored, can waste their time throwing mud at the special needs kid waddling along the playground. It keeps them from ruining real player country's.

Essentially the food chain would be bots>low>mid>high>land wh0re

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Marshal Game profile

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May 16th 2015, 10:25:12

Originally posted by BobbyATA:
how can they screw up markets if they presumably never get bigger than 5k acres or so?


selling stuffs at low price.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

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BobbyATA Game profile

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May 16th 2015, 14:30:17

Originally posted by Marshal:
Originally posted by BobbyATA:
how can they screw up markets if they presumably never get bigger than 5k acres or so?


selling stuffs at low price.


OK, but 10 countries at 5k won't be selling a whole lot of stuffs? Also, can't qz make 3 of them cashers, 3 farmers 3 indy ya know to balance themselves out?

Marshal Game profile

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May 16th 2015, 15:39:41

he tries to balance them but it takes awhile.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

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Serpentor Game profile

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May 17th 2015, 4:49:10

There's only one way to find out....

If you do put them in as a trial, please don't tell anyone. Just slip them in.
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May 17th 2015, 6:07:18

Originally posted by Serpentor:
There's only one way to find out....

If you do put them in as a trial, please don't tell anyone. Just slip them in.


Only way to do that is by giving the bots less obvious names. A snarky phrase or song title seems innocuous enough. Of course they don't retal multi taps, so it will eventually be exposed as to their true identity.

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May 17th 2015, 6:59:30

Originally posted by g0nz0:
After much contemplation, I have decided there will be bots in Primary. We will have 1 set to test their field worthiness.

I would like KoH to act as Turf Management, keep the bots safe and unmolested by land wh0res.


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May 18th 2015, 21:01:35

Now that you explained it, the idea doesn't sound to bad, more farms to attack is a good thing

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May 19th 2015, 6:22:10

Hmm... but isn't part of the challenge not easily farming. It turns a pvp game into a pve.

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May 19th 2015, 16:43:28

well the challenge would still definitely be there at the mid-higher levels i think
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May 19th 2015, 18:07:04

Originally posted by ZombiePuff:
Hmm... but isn't part of the challenge not easily farming. It turns a pvp game into a pve.



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May 21st 2015, 16:05:37

Yes we need botsss here

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May 25th 2015, 2:15:34

yeah but its not pve because you still have other people around

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May 27th 2015, 15:09:12

Alright, well perhaps I'll try some then.
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May 27th 2015, 17:51:31

Originally posted by qzjul:
Alright, well perhaps I'll try some then.


Just don't say how many and make their names NOT obvious so the farming doesn't get ridiculous and fk up the server dynamics as it did on express, please.
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May 27th 2015, 18:51:05

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by qzjul:
Alright, well perhaps I'll try some then.


Just don't say how many and make their names NOT obvious so the farming doesn't get ridiculous and fk up the server dynamics as it did on express, please.


I concur :-)
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May 27th 2015, 18:52:44

bots are bad
I am,
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