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MrTRiot Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 1:26:03

Tag Attacks Kills HPK Defends Deaths HPD
DKnights 1 0 0 2,201 10 220 (Country Stats)
EVOee 38 0 0 3,467 17 204 (Country Stats)
Totals 39 0 0 5,668 27 210 (Country Stats)

Tag Attacks Kills HPK Defends Deaths HPD
TSA 5,668 27 210 39 0 0 (Country Stats)
Totals 5,668 27 210 39 0 0 (Country Stats)

Attacker Defender Hits Kills HPK
DKnights TSA 1 0 0 (Country Stats)
EVOee TSA 38 0 0 (Country Stats)

Attacker Defender Hits Kills HPK
TSA DKnights 2,201 10 220 (Country Stats)
TSA EVOee 3,467 17 204 (Country Stats)




27 kills for Sol and not even 100 hits back?!?!?! Did DK and EVO fall asleep or something?!?!?!

This.....

This is a slaughter...

Go SoL!

:P

Hellz X Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 1:28:29

Ummm...
EVO is in vacation mode.

DK sees no point in even trying to make a counter attack with only 4 countries left (1 being a restart).

So yeah, dont expect our #'s to get any higher.
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Klown Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 1:44:31

SOL's FS was one of the better FS we have seen on this server in a while.

NukEvil Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 1:50:26

Heh...don't kid yourselves, people.


SOL is a derelict.
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mrford Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 2:00:08

"Klown
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SOL's FS was one of the better FS we have seen on this server in a while. "


ill have to admit, i loled
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Hobo Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 4:05:06

Na, just got a bitter taste in our mouth that drives the R.A.G.E.

Thomas Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 4:52:35

"Klown
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SOL's FS was one of the better FS we have seen on this server in a while. "


LMFAO

Thomas Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 4:58:01

What were the official FS stats? 25 kills by SoL in the first 24 hours?

Slagpit Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 5:03:06

Well, they had activity. Maybe we should give them the participation award?

Xelah Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 5:13:57

Yeah, We were totally asleep. That's why SoL pretty much wiped us out before we could organize a CS. Us being awake would have totally prevented the 15 of us from getting killed.
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locket Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 6:16:45

man you guys are bitter slag :P

Ivan Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 8:17:42


rofl@xelah

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Apr 26th 2010, 13:42:17

nukevil should go back in his cage!
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Apr 26th 2010, 13:51:18

Klown
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SOL's FS was one of the better FS we have seen on this server in a while.


Seriously? This is retarded, even for Klown....I'd lol if it wasn't just sad. 210 HPK != good FS, sorry....

Klown Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 14:18:55

Are you stupid NOW? You measure a FS by HPK? So if a clan had a 150 HPK FS and killed two countries, that would be good to you? Can any of you morons point to a FS with more hits/kills thats been done recently?

M m i x X Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 14:53:12

lol

its not a good FS... with 70 countries you could have tag killed both us and DK.
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Klown Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 15:04:45

They did tag kill Evo and DK. Again please show a better one.

RaHL_DK

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Apr 26th 2010, 15:14:30

Yep, Sol hit two alliances not prepared for war, by the time of our CS we had 3 or 4 countries left alive two of which had ran turns to stone wall.

I guess if 70 countries stocked and ready to rock couldnt take out 15 then well that would just be sad
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Klown Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 15:34:13

I love it. Last reset you have no problem piling on a 120 country advantage. This reset its nothing but whining about a 20 country advantage. You could have at least gone down with dignity.

anoniem Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 16:07:25

Last reset evo were peacefully netgaining. We had no war techs, oil etc. We hit SoL/NaturalS because you gang-banged Collab with TIE. Don't talk about numerical advantages when clearly basic numeracy is not your forte.

You do realise that Omega and Collab spoke to us before they pacted your alliance and we told them that pacting you would be in the interests for all. We weren't adverse to taking a reset off, because I mean it's so much fun to get war-prepped for a month tag kill two alliances (~half your size and not pacted to each other) netgaining, right?

Grow up.
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RaHL_DK

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Apr 26th 2010, 16:38:47

Ok Klown, i will bite

When DK entered the war last set, it was

Collab vs SOL,Naturals, & TIE

DK was the FIRST alliance to join, and was in the war a full 36-48 hours before others jumped in, So to say we piled on shows that you are truly ignorant

DK HAS NEVER! jumped into a war where we had the numbers, In both sets we have joined the side that had fewer countries

so No whinning, i could care less :)only ones that look like idiot asses is your side my friend!
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M m i x X Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 16:50:19

well said rahl :D
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dktuck Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 16:51:49

That's telling them Rahl
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NOW3P Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 19:14:09

Yeah, I'm am definitely war noob.... wth would I know about running FS'es and what good looking numbers from a FS look like....

In this case, HPK is a pretty good measure of what I would call a mediocre FS (not horrible, but by no means impressive). It's not the only measure by any means, but definitely telling of a FS that could have gone even better. Your kill/member ratio is a little bit better, but again, could have been even better.

If you want a lower recent hpk, look at LaE's FS on SYN/several spam tags. 167 hpk from a clan that was in full on netting mode (e.g. full of reps/dicts/theos that aren't war built/stocking missiles). SoL's participation in their FS was better, but you can't really use that as a comparative measure to this FS, as LaE tagkilled the opposing side in less than 24 hrs and before all members even got a chance to hit (which, I'm sure you know being the war master that you are, is the true measure of a FS' impact).

I'm sure this is the part where you'll go on and on about how the servers are different, and all that bullfluff.....but when it comes right down to it, the formulas for killing are exactly the same, and SoL just put on a FS w/ a 50+ higher HPK and lower kills/member ratio than a netting clan that organized on short notice for a war.

idc about who you guys hit though - w/ FS'es like that, you're not really inspiring fear in any clan that would give you an even fight.

mrford Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 21:00:42

Klown

it was an OK FS, but to say it was the best FS this server has seen in a while, is going a bit over the top

hell, ive even seen NA do better FSes recently, and NA isnt even a waring alliance.

look up old news from a IX, or WoG FS, and ull see what im talking about
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Klown Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 21:13:46

I don't consider IX or WOG to be recent, I'm talking since clans all went under 100 members.

NOW, that is idiotic. HPK has far more to do with the stonewalling of the opponent than the ability of the FSing alliance. Kills is by far the best way to measure a FS. If a clan has a 300 HPK and kills 50 countries, thats not a good FS? Inefficient maybe, but thats beside the point.

mrford Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 21:29:51

since the clans all went under 100 members?

thats this set

ill give you that, it has been the best FS this set!

given its been the only FS this set


also, kills is not a very good way to measure a FS, you can work bottom to top, and get 30% more kills, but kill like 60% less NW
your logic is flawed. there is no ONE way to measure a FS

Edited By: mrford on Apr 26th 2010, 21:30:15
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martian Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 21:43:16

to get a huge kill count you only need to have an entire tag fullof max chems and tyrs fs a tag with no sdi.
Big deal:P
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Klown Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 21:45:07

Sure. That would also give you a great HPK. Not that anyone else is stupid enough to argue in favor of what NOW is saying.

NOW3P Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 21:45:47

Inefficient and Bad aren't synonyms when we're talking about FS'es???? lmao - awesome!

On top of ford's very correct point about # of kills... no, if a clan has 300 hpk and kills 50 countries it is NOT a good FS. Because that same clan could have killed 55-60 with a better HPK (aka - better planned FS). After all, isn't EFFICIENCY the name of the game when it comes to killing???

Any FS with a HPK over 200 had something go wrong, or was run by an unprepared alliance.....sorry mate. It's by no means terrible, but I'm (apparently along w/ several others) less than impressed overall.

Also, IX and WoG both had recent FS'es with less than 100 members. So I'm not sure why you're dodging comparing your numbers to theirs. The comparison may not be spot on, but I'm gonna put a bet down without even looking that their numbers are much better than the ones from this FS.

mrford Game profile

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Apr 26th 2010, 21:48:31

also, kills is not a very good way to measure a FS, you can work bottom to top, and get 30% more kills, but kill like 60% less NW
your logic is flawed. there is no ONE way to measure a FS

im just guana say that one more time for emphasis
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cypress Game profile

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Apr 27th 2010, 0:13:54

i'll emphasize you!

Slagpit Game profile

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Apr 27th 2010, 1:40:16

It was a bad FS based on target selection and tactics used.

Thomas Game profile

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Apr 27th 2010, 1:42:47

Klown
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I don't consider IX or WOG to be recent, I'm talking since clans all went under 100 members.

NOW, that is idiotic. HPK has far more to do with the stonewalling of the opponent than the ability of the FSing alliance.


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So what you're saying is you can still have an amazing FS with poor target selection? People stonewall, yes. Do your homework and you'll hit the countries with the least probability of walling. But I guess that isn't necessary.

SolidSnake Game profile

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Apr 27th 2010, 1:51:30

judging fs's on unprep'd alliances is hard, although for me sof's fs on na a few sets ago was probably the best on the server for awhile, in that it gave a serious chance for sof to beat an alliance twice its size, but since then fs's have been pretty average