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Feb 4th 2015, 13:54:57

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Damn, prices sucking for tech...


Yep.. yet there doesn't seem to be that many techers. Bus/Res had at least one buy out that I saw, yet the prices that followed were still in the same low range as they were before it sold out.

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Feb 4th 2015, 16:39:12

They're better than last set, so there's that .. I was near poverty almost the whole time.

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Feb 4th 2015, 18:12:00

Originally posted by UpTheIrons:
Trying to estimate breaks without spying to save turns for more teching. Not working out too well, but I'm glad I tried it!


Uh...thanks?
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Feb 4th 2015, 21:07:22

There is an easy calc to figure out max defense based on acreage... I've not used it in years though so its not coming to mind. I dont wanna go look it up, anyone remember?

I do estimate allies sometimes, and if I assume they are all turret with some spies, and a fairly decently built country with some reasonable tech... I estimate their military unit count about the same as their NW. From most spy ops its pretty close or you'll be over sending by a bit. Problem is estimating their tech and points bonus. That's why I only use that for the allies sometimes and not the target itself. If you assumed max defense max points max tech and max allies, you'll only get like 1 LG a day. Lol
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Feb 4th 2015, 21:07:51

Dah.. Now I gotta go remember that calc.
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Feb 4th 2015, 21:12:37

just don't let it calc you into triple-tapping me.

I'm losing patience, just waiting for someone to push me over the edge!

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Feb 4th 2015, 21:16:27

/me wonders where the assman is :P
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Feb 5th 2015, 19:39:30

I don't see spying on my target's alliances to be worth the extra turns at this point. I just attack with %150 and hope everything works out. Generally does.

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Feb 5th 2015, 21:41:38

are you guys kidding me

how does everyone not know the attack formula by now??

each ally gives .25 RAW to a max of 100% your forces. however there are some strange occurrences sometimes when there are 0s in the equation on the target, from my experience.

the only time estimation should be considered is when you can't spy an ally due to humanitarians and the general rule is just estimate off a spy op against some within range that is of similar land size.

you need alot of indies as if your SPAL sucks, you will burn spies to know the true values to send.

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Feb 6th 2015, 17:12:51

To what does .25 RAW refer?

I understand there is an attack formula. Does it mean the target's ally will provide, at most, %25 of the target's max military capability?

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Feb 6th 2015, 23:55:52

Well, I guess a farmer is going to win.

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Feb 7th 2015, 0:13:18

Originally posted by VicRattlehead:
Well, I guess a farmer is going to win.


Except nobody has even 20k farms..which is why food is so high

Marshal Game profile

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Feb 7th 2015, 0:33:09

Originally posted by p1co:
To what does .25 RAW refer?

I understand there is an attack formula. Does it mean the target's ally will provide, at most, %25 of the target's max military capability?


yep and allies can't more than double country's defense so having ally with 5m turrets doesn't help that much if you have only 1m turrets.
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p1co Game profile

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Feb 7th 2015, 3:35:58

So how do we find out who is setting these high prices so we can hurt them?

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Feb 7th 2015, 3:48:09

That's easy, it's supply and demand, more consumers than producers.
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Feb 7th 2015, 16:21:08

$800 bushels all morning wow

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Feb 7th 2015, 16:35:16

Project Hardcore got a little bold it seems. Ouch

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Feb 7th 2015, 19:40:28

Server gets frozen when this happens. Nobody plays a turn. Lol
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Feb 7th 2015, 19:41:32

Hardcore must have had no sdi.
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VicRattlehead Game profile

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Feb 7th 2015, 21:16:31

Ah, damn. He tried to spy me a bunch of times, so I was gonna grab him. Woulda been a fatty. The reason I didn't already?

Oil/food prices. :(

p1co Game profile

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Feb 8th 2015, 7:00:06

What happened. One day tech is selling ~2700's, now it's barely ~1800.

Never seen a jump like this.

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Feb 8th 2015, 7:03:15

Nobody is buying on account of the food and oil prices.

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Feb 8th 2015, 7:14:43

>walk to work because can't afford gas, store owner will only sell it by the barrel, for $800.
>starve at work, lunchlady will only sell food by the bushel and she wants $80.
>such is life in this libertarian paradise

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Feb 8th 2015, 11:22:22

Originally posted by Marshal:
Originally posted by p1co:
To what does .25 RAW refer?

I understand there is an attack formula. Does it mean the target's ally will provide, at most, %25 of the target's max military capability?


yep and allies can't more than double country's defense so having ally with 5m turrets doesn't help that much if you have only 1m turrets.


This is such silliness from marshal that I felt compelled to respond.

Firstly, please note that the word "forces", being tossed about above, is your own defensive units X your weapons %. So the maximum that your allies can come to your aid is GREATER than the number of turrets, tanks and troops you own.

Secondly, while an ally can only contribute 25% of THEIR actual forces (Not including weapons, Dictator bonus, etc) to your defence, that 25% contribution might equal 100% of your forces. In fact, in exactly the scenario Marshal used here, the ally with 5M turrets would contibute a defensive force equal to 100% of your own forces, plus some room for weapons as well. With such a large ally you wouldn't even need a second ally to reach your maximum defensive strength.

So Marshall is full of fluff when he suggests that that ally doesn't help you much :)

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Feb 8th 2015, 13:26:34

as i stated previously you get 0.25 RAW of your allies forces, to a maximum of 100% of your RAW forces for each unit type

the target's wep % is also applied to the RAW forces that the ally has provided you, or at least i apply it in my attack formula

the defensive bonus is only applied to your forces, not your allies in my experience, as i do not apply this in my attack formula

i'm not sure about the 1.25 factor for DICTs but i suspect it applies to both, similar to wep%

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Feb 8th 2015, 18:37:50

Originally posted by Cannon:
Project Hardcore got a little bold it seems. Ouch


Originally posted by Serpentor:
Hardcore must have had no sdi.


And self deleted....

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Feb 8th 2015, 18:48:00

A. Your forces x tech x points x gov
+
B. 0.25 your allies units (to a maximum of A)

say you were at 1m turrets, 145% weap, 15% points def bonus and 25% dict bonus. 1,000,000x1.45x1.25x1.15= 2,084,375

-If you had an ally with 1m turrets you'd only get 250k
-If you had an ally with 5m turrets you'd get 1,250,000 turrets.
-If you had an ally with 10m turrets you'd get 2,084,375 turrets (max) from him.
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Feb 9th 2015, 22:05:10

I'm officially a rainbow, can't afford the $65 food and $500 oil, WTF!!!
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Feb 9th 2015, 23:55:21

Lol. Wait til bobby changes to farmer, you won't afford my jets either. :-P
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Feb 10th 2015, 0:07:52

I wish I played Fascist Farmer/Oiler. LOL.

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Feb 10th 2015, 1:10:40

Originally posted by Serpentor:
Lol. Wait til bobby changes to farmer, you won't afford my jets either. :-P


Nooooo!, I'm really enjoying the $118 jets & turrets ;-)

Originally posted by Ka Mac:
I wish I played Fascist Farmer/Oiler. LOL.


I'm hoping that I can avoid retals, I did hit couple hybrids...
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Feb 10th 2015, 1:15:58

^^

I think there's no BIG hybrids out there. Not even a BIG farmer? Maybe I'm wrong. :D

Edit:

I saw 24 to 25k Demos, that's the biggest I think, and they are having good times with this food prices. :)

Edited By: Ka Mac on Feb 10th 2015, 1:19:28
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Feb 10th 2015, 1:34:41

Ya I'm hoping I picked targets smartly, I hit rainbows and people outside GDI mainly...
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Feb 10th 2015, 2:47:08

I think there are bigger demos Ka Mac....

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Feb 10th 2015, 5:37:59

Originally posted by BobbyATA:
I think there are bigger demos Ka Mac....



Ohh yeah! You switched to demo. :)

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Feb 10th 2015, 5:39:48

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Ya I'm hoping I picked targets smartly, I hit rainbows and people outside GDI mainly...


Next time don't pick on rainbows, it's contagious! Now you're rainbow too. LOL =P

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Feb 10th 2015, 5:47:13

I wish the tank market didn't fall, that was the only think keeping my country floating with such low tech prices.... its been 4-5 days since any of my tanks sold :(
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Feb 10th 2015, 15:41:58

primary tanks cost more than ffa tanks so stop whining.

also who the hell sold tanks at 99 bucks?
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Feb 10th 2015, 19:03:13

Originally posted by Ka Mac:
Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Ya I'm hoping I picked targets smartly, I hit rainbows and people outside GDI mainly...


Next time don't pick on rainbows, it's contagious! Now you're rainbow too. LOL =P


Ya but my rainbow can kick all those I grabbed asses even if they combined all into one! :P
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Feb 10th 2015, 21:16:39

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:


Ya but my rainbow can kick all those I grabbed asses even if they combined all into one! :P


Are you saying you are the biggest rainbow of them all? :)

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Feb 10th 2015, 21:23:03

Originally posted by RMcCourt:
Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:


Ya but my rainbow can kick all those I grabbed asses even if they combined all into one! :P


Are you saying you are the biggest rainbow of them all? :)


Yes sir I am! ;-)
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Feb 11th 2015, 0:10:04

anyone have any stock lol

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Feb 11th 2015, 0:33:15

Do missiles count?
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Feb 11th 2015, 0:38:02

Only if you are planning to spend them at the end to raise your rank.

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Feb 11th 2015, 0:49:43

I could do that if GDI is broken by someone above me :P
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Feb 11th 2015, 5:07:21

I've been stocking on $65 food to resell at $36 on the last day. I may finish with a negative NW. Is there a record for lowest NW ever? There should be. KoH, I may need your missiles to accomplish this

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Feb 11th 2015, 5:24:09

Grrrr.... top 15 need to start hitting under the top 40..... all my gains gone :(
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Feb 11th 2015, 6:21:12

Originally posted by Cannon:
I've been stocking on $65 food to resell at $36 on the last day. I may finish with a negative NW. Is there a record for lowest NW ever? There should be. KoH, I may need your missiles to accomplish this


LOL I'll be on standby buddy :P

Originally posted by Xninja:
Grrrr.... top 15 need to start hitting under the top 40..... all my gains gone :(


The only way of reducing that is by start grabbing when you reach 5k acres, stay consistently on the offensive and if possible in the top 20 ;-)
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Feb 11th 2015, 7:16:09

I blame it on my lack of tech sales and needing to drop my tanks to turn a profit. Then again I was behind the land gaining for pretty much the whole set.
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Feb 11th 2015, 7:18:58

Tech has been fluffty, but few of us techers are hanging in there, you gotta stay aggressive pedal to the metal ;-)
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