Shouldn't game admins be able to check for collusion here since allies aren't allowed on express?

My theorycrafting:
~$4b stock = ~$20m nw destock.
This is doable on a 6k acre all-x ttr. (What I did 2 sets ago on my first time back, and I missed quite a chunk of turns!)

If you're grabbing, given you can store lotsa turns on express which improves efficiency, and there are bots to safely farm (new learning lol), you can probably get 12-13k acres in the same time or less (~$8b stock).

Given you can boost private market via oil instead of waiting for it to replenish (another new learning lol), you can actually spend turns to the end. (Prob the additional ~$2b)

That ~$10b stock = ~$50m nw destock. Then you can do reselling on top of it to get the last couple million nw.

Feels completely doable (not easy though). Fact that you're not overly reliant on private market replenishment via time/turns or on public market liquidity means it's more consistently repeatable, too. -Shrugs-

The consistency of the finish, and my recent learnings of the new rules, makes me think he's just figured out the formula to winning express legitimately. (I might try this next set!)

How do you think he is cheating?

What's your theory?

Ah interesting! Why would you sell food as a Monarchy instead of Fascist? Actually. why wouldn't you just sell the food as an H at higher private market price?
(I'm assuming you meant grow as an F, switch to M to dump food stockpile, and then to H to destock on private?)

Question: What's this 200k acre Fascist strat I see people running? And destocking as a Fascist too?
Farmer? Oiler? Is this related to the ability to use oil to destock on private now? (I'm guessing that's the land dropping strat?)

(Again, I haven't played in 10 years so genuinely trying to understand. Don't remember "grabbing netgaining Fascist" being a thing people ran back then - at least not so many people at the same time.)

Forgot to login as well and left couple billion unspent. Was sitting at 11m nw. lol

Not sure who you were, but I saw someone running a kill run on another country that died. The dead country basically multi-tapped many human countries multiple times a day. Even when these countries retaliated, the dead country still multitapped the same countries. lol

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Well, decided to play 1 set after not playing for 10 years. Started late (only used 1500 turns) and played an all-x TTR into rank 8. Yay!

I only found out about the bots and the 'grabbing etiquette' towards the end of the set. Man, those are some weird new rules!

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Turn 1 Tax: 34 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 2 Tax: 32 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 3 Tax: 30 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 4 Tax: 28 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 5 Tax: 27 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 6 Tax: 25 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 7 Tax: 24 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 8 Tax: 23 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 9 Tax: 22 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 10 Tax: 14 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 11 Tax: 12 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 12 Tax: 12 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 13 Tax: 19 BUILD 8 RES
Turn 14 Tax: 16 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 15 Tax: 13 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 16 Tax: 10 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 17 Tax: 7 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 18 Tax: 17 BUILD 9 RES
Turn 19 Tax: 15 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 20 Tax: 12 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 21 Tax: 9 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 22 Tax: 7 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 23 Tax: 15 BUILD 10 RES
Turn 24 Tax: 14 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 25 Tax: 13 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 26 Tax: 9 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 27 Tax: 7 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 28 Tax: 11 BUILD 5 BUS AND 6 RES
Turn 29 Tax: 29 EXPLORE
Turn 30 Tax: 25 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 31 Tax: 24 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 32 Tax: 23 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 33 Tax: 21 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 34 Tax: 21 BUILD 9 BUS AND 3 RES
Turn 35 Tax: 25 EXPLORE
Turn 36 Tax: 25 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 37 Tax: 25 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 38 Tax: 23 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 39 Tax: 22 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 40 Tax: 22 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 41 Tax: 22 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 42 Tax: 21 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 43 Tax: 20 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 44 Tax: 22 BUILD 9 BUS AND 5 RES
Turn 45 Tax: 28 EXPLORE
Turn 46 Tax: 28 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 47 Tax: 27 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 48 Tax: 26 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 49 Tax: 25 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 50 Tax: 23 BUILD 15 RES
Turn 51 Tax: 21 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 52 Tax: 21 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 53 Tax: 22 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 54 Tax: 21 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 55 Tax: 20 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 56 Tax: 19 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 57 Tax: 17 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 58 Tax: 14 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 59 Tax: 21 BUILD 1 BUS AND 16 RES
Turn 60 Tax: 19 EXPLORE
Turn 61 Tax: 18 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 62 Tax: 17 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 63 Tax: 16 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 64 Tax: 15 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 65 Tax: 14 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 66 Tax: 13 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 67 Tax: 12 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 68 Tax: 9 BUILD 1 CS
Turn 69 Tax: 10 BUILD 1 BUS AND 18 RES
Turn 70 Tax: 14 BUILD 10 BUS AND 9 RES
Turn 71 Tax: 18 BUILD 10 BUS AND 9 RES
Turn 72 Tax: 19 BUILD 9 BUS AND 10 RES
Turn 73 Tax: 20 BUILD 10 BUS AND 9 RES
Turn 74 Tax: 22 BUILD 6 BUS AND 13 RES
Turn 75 Tax: 21 EXPLORE
Turn 76 Tax: 25 BUILD 15 BUS AND 4 RES
Turn 77 Tax: 25 BUILD 17 BUS AND 2 RES
Turn 78 Tax: 25 EXPLORE
Turn 79 Tax: 28 BUILD 15 BUS AND 4 RES
Turn 80 Tax: 27 BUILD 16 BUS AND 3 RES
Turn 81 Tax: 27 EXPLORE
Turn 82 Tax: 29 BUILD 15 BUS AND 4 RES
Turn 83 Tax: 28 BUILD 17 BUS AND 2 RES
Turn 84 Tax: 28 EXPLORE
Turn 85 Tax: 30 BUILD 15 BUS AND 4 RES
Turn 86 Tax: 29 BUILD 16 BUS AND 3 RES
Turn 87 Tax: 28 EXPLORE
Turn 88 Tax: 30 BUILD 15 BUS AND 4 RES
Turn 89 Tax: 30 BUILD 12 BUS AND 7 RES
Turn 90 Tax: 29 BUILD 16 BUS AND 3 RES
Turn 91 Tax: 29 EXPLORE
Turn 92 Tax: 30 BUILD 15 BUS AND 4 RES
Turn 93 Tax: 30 BUILD 14 BUS AND 5 RES
Turn 94 Tax: 30 EXPLORE
Turn 95 Tax: 31 BUILD 14 BUS AND 5 RES
Turn 96 Tax: 30 BUILD 16 BUS AND 3 RES
Turn 97 Tax: 30 EXPLORE
Turn 98 Tax: 31 BUILD 14 BUS AND 5 RES
Turn 99 Tax: 29 BUILD 18 BUS AND 1 RES

56 cs, 203 res, 330 bus

Turn 100 Tax: 31 EXPLORE
Turn 101 Tax: 33 BUILD 8 BUS AND 11 RES
Turn 102 Tax: 34 BUILD 5 BUS AND 14 RES
Turn 103 Tax: 32 EXPLORE
Turn 104 Tax: 34 BUILD 18 BUS AND 1 RES
Turn 105 Tax: 34 BUILD 9 BUS AND 10 RES
Turn 106 Tax: 34 BUILD 8 BUS AND 11 RES
Turn 107 Tax: 33 EXPLORE
Turn 108 Tax: 34 BUILD 14 BUS AND 5 RES
Turn 109 Tax: 34 BUILD 12 BUS AND 7 RES
Turn 110 Tax: 33 EXPLORE

56 cs, 262 res, 404 bus, $120,220

That was the cash start I used back in the day.. No Tech. Think about 10k pop? Couldn't really be bothered to run starts like that anymore though..

yay!

i've got 16 points but can't seem to click the free permanent gdi bonus..

do i need to manually join GDI first, then use the bonus? Or should I be able to click it right off the bat if I have 16 points?

Is there a cap to these bonuses? Like how many resource decays can you pile up before it stops? And does this just affect food decay?

And does luck affect explore rates or increases all the boom and missile rates too? And what about the old "mehul factor" in land grabs?

Bragpit! Haha nice to see another familiar name. Which server are you playing on these days?

yea, c/i seems to be the new top strat to play. lol

Thanks guys. Find it strange tyr techer isn't as popular on solo servers anymore.. Used to be the main cookie cutter strat to get to #1. Any old SKA dudes here wanna chip in their 2 cents? =P

23 views no replies. yay!

Just checking if anything has changed: (this is for Tourney mostly, or primary possibly)

Indy: Always commie
Casher: All x - Rep, Grabbing - Theo or Rep?
Farmer: All x - Rep or Demo?, Grabbing - Fasc
Techer: All x - Rep-->Demo or Straight up Theo, Grabbing - Tyr-->Demo (or perhaps straight up Theo?)

Are the above combinations still the standard cookie-cutters? (If someone can answer the question marks or give more insight would be great.)

I thought turns should always be better for a farmer since a farmer should grow til the end?

Hmm that's pretty cool. And yea with the new grab rules it definitely pays to grab cos you can't do special attacks to retaliate/deter ppl. And ppl only grab once now!

bump!

Woo trep! LOL Hmm I'm unlikely to have time to grab properly.. Is there any way to win primary all-x?

otherwise, i'd stick to tourney for a bit!

hi braden

where's bobby?

Well, just decided to check out these forums again and am moderately tempted to come back for a set! (maybe)

What's 2A like nowadays? Anyone I know still troll around these forums?

ska rules.
congrats mikers, your daughter is almost a year old now!

Whoa.

Surely this isn't the JJ23 that benches 400 lbs and drives/while driving a ferrari?

You can see the top list..

Go to 'Top Players'.
On the top right, you can see 'Previous Reset'.

Why do we need feeds for tourney at all? =P

Yes I'd like that invisible govt be reinstated.

Anyways, techers will win this set.
It already seems like there are a lot more Rs and Cs. =P

Alliances not permitted. Anything else?

Yea, am pretty happy with SKA performance after what happened earlier on.. We were set on 5, and ended up with 4, of which 1 turned out to be inactive.. which leaves us with only 3 people who are playing, one of which had a bout of terrible luck early on but stuck on til the end. Kudos to raheel! I had played a terrible finish (couldn't login as planned on the last day, which derailed my initial destock plans). Great job to Daniel for 1st place! Very nice finish. (:

And, well played finished by DBD. Almost got the whole team in top 10! (:

Congrats to top 10. Pretty nice. Was a casher's set anyways! (:

I can't believe that in the first tourney set in the new EE...

I had forgotten to login to blow stock. A lot of stock. How much did first place get?

I like the selling money option (interest rates). (: Would it be too complicated though?

I have a couple of suggestions.. here goes:

=Game structure=
What we could do is maintain this like upper tourney.. 1 top game (A), 2 lower games (B&C).

Cycle it so only the top 50 stay within game A, and the rest get split evenly between B and C.

For B & C, the top 25 get to game A.

This makes it 100 players in game A, and 75 players in B and C each (total of 250 players).

=Public Market=
Make all of these share the same market.. (Its already so small anyways.)

With so little people, there really is no point to splitting it up further.

=Game Play=
With less players (even last time, 2A alone had 229 players with the bottom 40-60 inactive usually I'd reckon?), I do think we need to keep land transfers alive.

1) Reinstate free GDI: This forces midfeeding = More land transfer

2) Enhanced ghost acres: Need to create land in some way.

3) Attacks limited to SS/PS: Most of the time, it is near-impossible to kill another player with 1 country under your control and with no 'external help' anyways; so if someone's looking to war, he should head over to alliance. So let's make this a pure grab-fest kinda server. (Land kill's are impossible with the new ghost acre rule, where you lose less, am I right?) Declare war and missiles should be removed too.

4) Make it a 1b limit. This would really force players to use the market to stock, and hence we would be able to artificially bump up volume in the market?

5) Enhanced explore rates. This is part of the idea to make land abundant.

6) Remove all Relations. There would be no FAs or pacts of any kind.

=Conclusion=
I hope that with the above, what we get is a true and more competitive grabbing environment. Without 'declare war' and with permanent free GDI, one can only midfeed; this removes all topfeeding worries and bottom feeding woes. Without special attacks, the only thing you can do if you get grabbed is retal. The only way to prevent retals is either 1) shrink to 50% of your opponent's size (unlikely), 2) outgrow the other country like crazy. With enhanced explore rates and enhanced ghost acres, we should get a lot of land in game.

With a lot of land, we had a lot more production and consumption, which is demand & supply of the public market. With the 1b limit put in place, most of the cash must be stored in the market and so we should get a good level of public market activity and volume on the small player base.

Ok, so what do you guys think?
The game structure can be re-organised as more players get into this.

A casher had better win this.

I'm, most unfortunately, not playing a casher. ):

I'm sure top 10 is out of reach now! lol