PDM is suffering because a few og your members bragged about what they did with PDM in their signatures. Have you read anything in this thread? Or do you just make if up as you go?

LOL none of our members bragged about what they did with PDM in their signature that was PDMs own members

We actually said they shouldn't hit anyone at all. We merely stated that we are among the lowest represented alliances in TSO and that they should keep team server stuff on the team server. You seem to have this strange delusion that we control these people.

sounds like Ivan aligns more with the suiciders than anyone else... hmm...

which means he should be suiciding on himself!

I think you are confusing elvesrus with "a few"... have you ever fact checked anything or is PP your source of information on this issue? Archaic posted in that big TSO thread but he does not play there... two other PDM heads also posted in that thread complaining about what TSO did, but since they didn't list PDM in their signatures and you had no desire to actually target anyone in alliance who actually victimized you, now you are left back pedaling and trying to spin in a vain attempt to justify your boneheaded actions.

Now you are taking false info from one of the suiciders. You are as dumb as they are.

Its definitely a shame that PDM got suicided on, its always bad when stuff like that happens. ElvesRUS is however one of the most vocal TSO supporters that has posted on the team forum several times that he wants to destroy that whole server. It is easily understandable that his type of childish behaviour will upset people. Suiciding isnt the answer though but that seems to be what happened.

Are you talking to me? I got no business with TSO im saying that i think pang is a flufftard for going on here and whining to the suiciders so they hit other innocent people instead of your innocent people so yes heres me justifying my boneheaded actions here ill spell it out for you too

Pang yer a fluff, a troll and a fluffty player

There is too much nerdrage in this thread. I suggest you all step back, take a deep breath and then help me suicide on Flamey.

ivan, you're only making yourself look stupid by ignoring Detmer's content and just trying to attack me. everything you say about me can be said about you in spades.

i'm sorry that we corrected someone else who said Boltar was in PDM. We don't want that kind of publicity and I understand why you don't either.

PDM has 2 players in TSO

turns out one of them is the VP :/ but is his choice and even if I don't agree with what he is doing, but he isn't breaking any rules of neither TEAM or ALLIANCE server.

What Boltar and TSO are doing in Team was bound to happen sooner or later, you can't have such a small player base without lots of resentment building up, and the server mechanics are just not suited to prevent abuse, heck about half of TSO was killed by them in the past, and only decided to join in when everyone else refused to help them fight TSO.

If you can't beat them, you join them.


regarding PDM sending suiciders to SoF, that may have been the end result, but it wasn't our intention, you have to understand that when someone yells they are thrashing your car because your thrashed theirs, and then describe the attacker as your neighbor, you can't help to yell wtf to the winds.

We refused to outright tell them where most TSO played, but someone may have slipped the word somewhere, and if that was the case, i would like to be the first to say sorry for helping the suiciders.

One thing though, this set is a set of killing for me, netting went off the window when I was forced to change strats, and as such I have no desire to stop hitting, I will keep killing these TEAM invaders from space until they are nothing but a memory in these lands, you may stop hitting PDM, but I'll keep hitting you fools till you join an alliance to play legit in our lands, or form your own clan (of with I will keep hitting unless you employ diplomacy to reach a cease of fire).

It proably wasnt your itent Chaoswind but it was definately Pangs intent and SOF was never hidding that boltar joined SOF this set and took on the role as leader of FA unfortunately from what i get from pangs/detmers posting it was definately their intent to get the suiciders to hit another innocent tag instead of their own

Detmer even posted a list of ex/current SOF members i actually know that at least half of that list are inactives but who cares detmers intent was rather clear anyway I could put the blame on the other tags whos represented in TSO but im not going to im not as low as pang is

fluffF!

Ivan, who posted this threads on Team Talk?

can you check out who it was for me?
I can't quite make it out...
http://forums.earthempires.com/...team-server-offenders-tso

the more I look into this, the more I feel that SoF should have definitely been targeted ahead of PDM, based on the retarded reasoning the morons are using to attack.

(and before ivan tries to troll me again, i obviously don't think anyone should be attacked in the first place.)

You are the one who said SoF was as innocent as PDM. You shouldn't have gotten into it with us if you didn't want us to show that if anyone deserves suiciding (between the two of us) it is you.

The problem is your arrogant, retard attitude has gotten SoF in trouble again. I can not understand why anyone plays in SoF anymore with you running things...

thanks for putting words in my mouth again!

my intent was to alert the morons to the fact that two of the ppl they cited in their anger posts (Boltar and Jiman) played in other tags (SoF and SoL, respectively) more for discrediting them than anything else.

You came here and made yourself visible while SoL ignored the thread. I expect that's why they hit you over SoL :p

edit: also, you'll note that they said several times that PDM was the first of many alliances... so... ya... more holes in your argument.

it does look different watching people argue when you aren't in it =)

cross server retal = lame though.

I think the suiciders have done an awesome job of trolling you all.

lol and take a look on the first page of that thread

Rolangunslinger
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Feb 2nd 2012, 5:06:16
TSO are a bunch of flufftards, thanks for ruining the server for me. kill me quick so I can be done with this server.
I am #41 btw.

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Roland is one of the guys that is pretty much MIA on our side, and this set we have 6 of those, 4 with known ties with different team server clans.

Yet PP went full retard and decided to hit with no information on hand, if you are going to suicide on assholes you have to be 200% sure that you are actually targeting an asshole, takes 10 seconds to double check the information you have.

Wow! A VP in PDM. The doucheness runs real deep in your clan. All the way to the top.

I am willing to be that given the right circumstance, what TSO did in Team could be achieved in Alliance. Just that I have had interaction with TSO members, they aren't the brightest lightbulbs in the house.

I guess I'll join the team server. :)

Perhaps he wasnt trying to hit the actual asshats but rather just stir up this whole argument instead?

But really if its suiciding on PDM or suiciding on SOF it matters little really, its all wrong in the first place. Just as much as it is wrong for the TSO people to destroy all other teams on the team server.

Here at worst some countries lose 2-3 days of netting or warring or whatever it is they were bent on doing. On the team server other teams have lost years worth of building up teams and having fun and netting or whatever they were doing.

Cross server retalling is definitely lame and suiciding is also lame, but as Terror pointed out a while back that approving of bullies is also very very lame.

posted by pang

"but as an admin, I REALLY don't like innocent people on another server being targeted because of something they have no interest in. that server should probably just be shut down until we have the time retool it..."

Thank you- Shut down team server. Can I hold you to that?

(i stopped reading half way through the first page!)

Don't shut it down! The fun just started. There will be more players than ever there now. hahah

i haven't been lobbying to keep it open in the first place. i've been in the shut down + retool camp for a long time, i think h4 was still a game mod when we realized it was flawed. but like I said, it's sad this happens now because the changeset that needs to be done before team can be addressed is on deck now that the restart changes are done. there's several pieces that need to be created first before we can implement the changes we wanted to see.... but that's a different discussion for a different board.

this is about killing some idiot suiciders :p

crest23 stop being tarded, PDM has no pres or VP, we are under a corporate system

Directors and the senate that is pretty much the biggest shareholders of our company :P

Don't do it just yet, I need 6 more kills there first. Then you can set it on fire for all I care!

lol@pang yes you pointed out repeatedly that PDM wasnt the only alliance that has members in TSO, SOF does as well and a lot of others im just gonna do what you did and try to put the blame on another tag because the fact is a lot of tags are represented and most of the ppl being suicided on has nothing to do with the team server

Whats even worse is that you as a game admin/HFA encourages suiciders to hit other tags and detmer as a president is just as retarded for blaming other alliances for this when his own head of war is VP of that clan im not putting the blame on anyone nor am i trying to avoid suiciders on SOF if they wanna hit us go a head we arent scared of them

Well Pang one thing I must say, we all really do appreciate the fact that you are constantly working to improve and change things. It makes this game so much better than anything it has been in the past.

Just kill the suiciders and get on with playing as normal. Then if you at some point can improve the game thats great. At the moment the team server can just as well be shut down but if you watn to keep it running that is also ok. It will just be TSO sitting there on their own until something changes though. I played there for years and enjoyed it up until they showed up.

When Ivan and Pang are done fighting over the Tonka Truck maybe we can start doing joint chats.

Helmet can we do joint killruns with PDM on Flamey?

I rather like NukEvil's suggestion to just set the rules that there will be no cooperative efforts to kill a country from the same team. Killing might still be possible if there were teams in cooperation which of course there always would be, but it would no longer be the dominating influence in the game.

I still prefer to not modify rules in preference to having players be more socially responsible, but setting down rules is probably easier and has a better chance of actually working.

detmer already reached out to flamey.

we're taking the "bypass ivan" approach to SoF now-a-days.

Out of respect, I would also like to thank Pang for his hard work as a game developer. It's a shame you can't rewrite the code for human behavior. I suspect you could introduce some improvements.

Your insults are meaningless when they don't have fact to back them up... what you are doing is just name calling.

It's unfortunate, but this game is full of selfish, whiny, cry babies and it's always been that way. They have made a fantastic game, much better than lazy Mehul would have ever done and it's the bad attitudes that cause all of these issues.

Actually, for my suggestion of joint chats... that went out to Ivan =P

He was more focused on trying to pass the suicider blame to us though...

Why dont you talk to me anymore Detmer? Is it because of the last time I took advantage of you? I have changed I swear...

I STILL HAVE THOSE HERPES!!!!!

Sadly I pretty much don't get on messengers anymore. I get on PDM chat as much as I can but real life keeps my too busy for much other than boards now a days.

Well pang yer pretty delusional if you think theres an around ivan approach in SOF but PDM is welcome to join our krs

This would have been so far worse if pang or qz gave us limited server rules with no homotarians or no Dr's on grabbing would happened sooner. But I love the hornets I stirred up. Seeing my name so often its a cross between having a convo with someone who stutters and someone who has torrets

Time to restart cry babies. :)

The new restart rules are quite friendly. Crying is a thing of the past.

yes a drunk porn star (myself)and an elf for HoW and somehow PDM is behind TSO? hahahaha i find it commical but like i said before i was in LoT with alot of pdmers trying to fight off TSO DBD and WoG FBI didnt want to help rid the server of them so next set after getting killed repatedly i joined them :P TSO TOP 100 this set all of us :D

and wait were hiding boltar in PDM? wow boltar get at me we can techallys!!!!!

You are pretty childish dude

PDM want Boltar

lol at the bypass Ivan policy - I'm pretty sure that Sof actually originated that policy

Ivan, I'm impressed by your ability to continuously lower the bar in a thread where the standards have already been set so low.

LOL@Archaic

your a bitter old man, if you keep this up you'll be more bitter then mickster soon

I played with PDM for awhile a couple of years ago, actually loved being there but when PDM is being represented publically by people like Pang and Archaic who even on their best days are poor trollers and players its very sad :(

Wtf is this I don't even...

**yawn

/me waits for chevs or helmet to come along and confirm that I'm a bitter old man